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And you're forgetting that a lot of getting elected involves likeability and popularity, and in this scenario where Biden serves one-term and Harris runs in 2024, she has a long way to go in those regards. Likeability goes a lot further than policy it seems. Look at Bush's elections. Or even Trump's (unlikeable as he is) versus Hillary.Lerxst1992 said:I think you are forgetting if Biden wins, he controls the executive branch. Everything trump has swept under the rug comes out. If there are any serious financial ties from the kremlin to trumps pocket, it’s coming out. If trump did anything to undermine our democracy in favor of Putin, it’s coming out. Not from the fake media but in black and white, the actual documents. Did you read what former Trump DNI Dan Coats said about Trump / Russia in the Woodward book? And that’s from a lifelong conservative
You are also forgetting about covid. If Biden puts together a cohesive strategy with masks and six feet and we get the R rate very low and we can go back to bitching about how little PJ tours and how difficult it is to get good tickets, even without a vaccine, that will be a strong narrative to defeat republicans in the future. Sometimes regulations are not a dirty word. Sometimes they actually save lives.
As for your first paragraph, yeah, that'd be good if justice is served regarding Trump and everything you laid out, but I don't think people will be so grateful for that that Harris could waltz her way to the presidency in 2024. And even if Biden saves us all from Covid with his regulations and becomes very popular for it, Harris herself would still not be a shoo-in in 2024. So she'd have served under a popular president. Well so did Al Gore and Hillary. And they served under presidents that (presumably, to me) were more popular than Biden will be.
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loljosevolution said:lol keep bringing up nothing burgers , will keep on dismissing them at least bring something with some meat on it enjoy looking for them!
I heard the antifa website redirects to Biden's!www.myspace.com0 -
BidenSo anyway...stuff that matters: Trump has a TON of work to do to get ready for these debates.
I am not sure he could've looked worse last night.www.myspace.com0 -
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Still does. Even if you don't care about it, it is an interesting tidbit. Lord knows if proudboys.com redirected to Trump's campaign site, it would be a topic of conversation around here. But it's a nothing-burger when it's about Biden.The Juggler said:lol
I heard the antifa website redirects to Biden's!
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Incompetent comes to mind!The Juggler said:So anyway...stuff that matters: Trump has a TON of work to do to get ready for these debates.
I am not sure he could've looked worse last night.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
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trueLedbetterman10 said:Still does. Even if you don't care about it, it is an interesting tidbit. Lord knows if proudboys.com redirected to Trump's campaign site, it would be a topic of conversation around here. But it's a nothing-burger when it's about Biden.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
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C'mon now, you must have meant chest up. Seems to be why so many find her appealing at all. And let's face it, current Trump supporters would vote for her just because of how she looks.HughFreakingDillon said:i could see junior rallying the trumpsters, but not invanka. she's an emotionless cyborg. she'd be a good candidate as a world dictator in the year 2362, only seen from the neck up on 100 foot screens shown to the enslaved masses.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
The difference is that Covidiot does align himself with racist Americans! Biden has already renounced any violence or violent groups...Ledbetterman10 said:Still does. Even if you don't care about it, it is an interesting tidbit. Lord knows if proudboys.com redirected to Trump's campaign site, it would be a topic of conversation around here. But it's a nothing-burger when it's about Biden.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
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His campaign should do a cease-and-desist against whoever is causing that website to link to his. By knowing about it (obviously his campaing knows that link is active) and not doing anything, they're sort of "winking" at those far left-loons the same way Trump "winks" (he sometimes more than winks) at the far-right loons.josevolution said:The difference is that Covidiot does align himself with racist Americans! Biden has already renounced any violence or violent groups...
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lol i guess I can agree with that,but I’m not sure the Biden team definitely is aware..Ledbetterman10 said:His campaign should do a cease-and-desist against whoever is causing that website to link to his. By knowing about it (obviously his campaing knows that link is active) and not doing anything, they're sort of "winking" at those far left-loons the same way Trump "winks" (he sometimes more than winks) at the far-right loons.Post edited by josevolution onjesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
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What is interesting about it? Seems like a stupid prank to me.Ledbetterman10 said:Still does. Even if you don't care about it, it is an interesting tidbit. Lord knows if proudboys.com redirected to Trump's campaign site, it would be a topic of conversation around here. But it's a nothing-burger when it's about Biden.www.myspace.com0 -
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What does this even mean? Are you saying there's no way for me to know that someone in the Biden campaign knows that link is active? Is that what you're suggesting? Because if they don't know, then they're complete morons. But they're not morons, they're just ignoring it. Hell, there's a USA Today article about it. So you, me, and USA Today readers that read the article know, but nobody in the campaign knows? lol. "Come on, man."josevolution said:lol ok I guess your in the know crowd..
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/09/02/fact-check-antifa-com-redirects-joe-biden-site-hes-not-involved/3455297001/
And yes, when you click the link, it says Biden is not involved. I believe that. I doubt he's calling up some antifa.com webmaster and asking for their site to link to his. But he (his campaign, because he's helpeless) is being complicit by allowing it to stay up for months.
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what he's trying to illustrate here is that if a proud boys/confederacy/kkk website directed to the trump campaign website, the left would be up in arms demanding he denounce it. but biden? meh, just a prank.The Juggler said:What is interesting about it? Seems like a stupid prank to me.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
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First off, I as bad as antifa's actions are, comparing them to the kkk is asinine. But why would we be up in arms though? We already know those people support him. It would not be as if Trump somehow made those websites redirect to his. It's either a prank or or the group wants it to redirect to the candidate they support. Either way, who cares? It's a fucking website. lol.HughFreakingDillon said:what he's trying to illustrate here is that if a proud boys/confederacy/kkk website directed to the trump campaign website, the left would be up in arms demanding he denounce it. but biden? meh, just a prank.
There's a reason nobody cares about this...www.myspace.com0 -
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Filing a lawsuit (a C&D would only be temporary injunction) would only draw more attention and specifically mainstream news attention to the issue. It's just a prank and there's no reason to give it more legs than it has (which is hardly any).Ledbetterman10 said:What does this even mean? Are you saying there's no way for me to know that someone in the Biden campaign knows that link is active? Is that what you're suggesting? Because if they don't know, then they're complete morons. But they're not morons, they're just ignoring it. Hell, there's a USA Today article about it. So you, me, and USA Today readers that read the article know, but nobody in the campaign knows? lol. "Come on, man."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/09/02/fact-check-antifa-com-redirects-joe-biden-site-hes-not-involved/3455297001/
And yes, when you click the link, it says Biden is not involved. I believe that. I doubt he's calling up some antifa.com webmaster and asking for their site to link to his. But he (his campaign, because he's helpeless) is being complicit by allowing it to stay up for months.0 -
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Well that's reasonable enough. Though I doubt the mainstream media would even cover it besides Fox News.mrussel1 said:Filing a lawsuit (a C&D would only be temporary injunction) would only draw more attention and specifically mainstream news attention to the issue. It's just a prank and there's no reason to give it more legs than it has (which is hardly any).
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Maybe because its Putin on the ritz's troll farms and if anyone should denounce it, it should be Team Trump Treason telling Putin on the ritz to stay the fuck out of our elections and to knock it off, maybe freeze Russia's online banking for a day to get the message across? But seeing how Team Trump Treason was in phone contact with Roger Dodger Stoned who was in phone contact with Julian Asstrange who was in contact with "I'm liking this guy Guccifer 2.0" Putin on the ritz's intelligence services regarding the leaks of the DNC's and Podesta's emails, that'll never happen.The Juggler said:First off, I as bad as antifa's actions are, comparing them to the kkk is asinine. But why would we be up in arms though? We already know those people support him. It would not be as if Trump somehow made those websites redirect to his. It's either a prank or or the group wants it to redirect to the candidate they support. Either way, who cares? It's a fucking website. lol.
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lolHalifax2TheMax said:Maybe because its Putin on the ritz's troll farms and if anyone should denounce it, it should be Team Trump Treason telling Putin on the ritz to stay the fuck out of our elections and to knock it off, maybe freeze Russia's online banking for a day to get the message across? But seeing how Team Trump Treason was in phone contact with Roger Dodger Stoned who was in phone contact with Julian Asstrange who was in contact with "I'm liking this guy Guccifer 2.0" Putin on the ritz's intelligence services regarding the leaks of the DNC's and Podesta's emails, that'll never happen.
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Are you discounting our own intelligence agencies assessments of putin on the ritz's continued interference in our electoral process? Like Team Trump Treason? Or do you welcome it? Odd to find those facts "lol." Kinda like "liking the Guccifer 2.0 guy."Ledbetterman10 said:09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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No. Since we were talking about the Antifa.com/JoeBiden.com link, and you responded to that in particular with Putin and troll farms, that's what I'm discounting. If an intelligence reports comes out confirming that Vladimir Putin bought the url "Antifa.com" off of it's previous owners and linked it to Joe Biden's website, then I'll stop discounting it.Halifax2TheMax said:Are you discounting our own intelligence agencies assessments of putin on the ritz's continued interference in our electoral process? Like Team Trump Treason? Or do you welcome it? Odd to find those facts "lol." Kinda like "liking the Guccifer 2.0 guy."
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