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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,840
    Biden
    mickeyrat said:
    Ahem.   
    Trump Encourages People in North Carolina to Vote Twice, Which Is Illegal https://nyti.ms/2YVe8Qv

    I haven't lived in NC for 3.5 years.  My wife and I got absentee ballot applications from the RNC in NC sent to our house in a different state. Idiots.
    I also have gotten text messages from different groups (despite having an iowa cellphone #).  Mostly DNC ... I must have given Pete my cell number at some point.  In fact got a text from NC Dems asking why I haven;t voted in the last several elections....ummmmm....I don't live there and I have voted in another state since then.  I regret them having my cell phone number.  The fact they are texting me nonsense pisses me off.


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  • jerparker20
    jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,529
    Biden
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Ahem.   
    Trump Encourages People in North Carolina to Vote Twice, Which Is Illegal https://nyti.ms/2YVe8Qv

    And their defense will be, “Team Trump Treason told me I could.” CYA Barr will drop the charges. If you’re white.
    Except states have the legal jurisdiction over voting, so Barr can’t do anything. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,367
    jerparker20 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Ahem.   
    Trump Encourages People in North Carolina to Vote Twice, Which Is Illegal https://nyti.ms/2YVe8Qv

    And their defense will be, “Team Trump Treason told me I could.” CYA Barr will drop the charges. If you’re white.
    Except states have the legal jurisdiction over voting, so Barr can’t do anything. 
    No Potential FEC Violations involved?
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,532
    Biden
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    jerparker20 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Ahem.   
    Trump Encourages People in North Carolina to Vote Twice, Which Is Illegal https://nyti.ms/2YVe8Qv

    And their defense will be, “Team Trump Treason told me I could.” CYA Barr will drop the charges. If you’re white.
    Except states have the legal jurisdiction over voting, so Barr can’t do anything. 
    No Potential FEC Violations involved?

    think they are confined to campaigns and candidates. notthe public at large
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,532
    Biden
    cincybearcat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Ahem.   
    Trump Encourages People in North Carolina to Vote Twice, Which Is Illegal https://nyti.ms/2YVe8Qv

    I haven't lived in NC for 3.5 years.  My wife and I got absentee ballot applications from the RNC in NC sent to our house in a different state. Idiots.
    I also have gotten text messages from different groups (despite having an iowa cellphone #).  Mostly DNC ... I must have given Pete my cell number at some point.  In fact got a text from NC Dems asking why I haven;t voted in the last several elections....ummmmm....I don't live there and I have voted in another state since then.  I regret them having my cell phone number.  The fact they are texting me nonsense pisses me off.



    I'd be inclined to contact nc for removal from the rolls
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  • jerparker20
    jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,529
    Biden
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    jerparker20 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Ahem.   
    Trump Encourages People in North Carolina to Vote Twice, Which Is Illegal https://nyti.ms/2YVe8Qv

    And their defense will be, “Team Trump Treason told me I could.” CYA Barr will drop the charges. If you’re white.
    Except states have the legal jurisdiction over voting, so Barr can’t do anything. 
    No Potential FEC Violations involved?
    Nope. Strictly on the states. FEC is for matters related to federal elections. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,532
    Biden
    jerparker20 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    jerparker20 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Ahem.   
    Trump Encourages People in North Carolina to Vote Twice, Which Is Illegal https://nyti.ms/2YVe8Qv

    And their defense will be, “Team Trump Treason told me I could.” CYA Barr will drop the charges. If you’re white.
    Except states have the legal jurisdiction over voting, so Barr can’t do anything. 
    No Potential FEC Violations involved?
    Nope. Strictly on the states. FEC is for matters related to federal elections. 

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Election_Commission

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    jerparker20 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    jerparker20 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Ahem.   
    Trump Encourages People in North Carolina to Vote Twice, Which Is Illegal https://nyti.ms/2YVe8Qv

    And their defense will be, “Team Trump Treason told me I could.” CYA Barr will drop the charges. If you’re white.
    Except states have the legal jurisdiction over voting, so Barr can’t do anything. 
    No Potential FEC Violations involved?
    Nope. Strictly on the states. FEC is for matters related to federal elections. 
    Don’t federal elections cover house, senate and POTUS? So in effect, if you voted twice in a state election for a legislature seat, you would face state charges but not federal charges but if you voted twice for a federal seat, you could face federal charges?
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  • Hi!
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    Biden
    www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/5696508002

    When elected to office, you do not represent only your supporters, you represent all of your constituents. That is your job. I was at the nation’s Capitol when Trump gave his inaugural address. I had hoped this first speech as president would be a message to unify a divided nation. Instead, I heard a speech directed at how he would help the people who supported him. And sadly, that is how President Trump continues to govern.

    Furthermore, President Trump’s answer to people who oppose or disagree with them is to be verbally abusive. In other words, he is a bully.



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  • mickeyrat
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    Biden
    Type your commentThe Federal Election Commission (FEC) is an independent regulatory agency of the United States whose purpose is to enforce campaign finance law in United States federal elections. Created in 1974 through amendments to the Federal Election Campaign Act,[4] the commission describes its duties as "to disclose campaign finance information, to enforce the provisions of the law such as the limits and prohibitions on contributions, and to oversee the public funding of Presidential elections."
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mickeyrat said:
    Type your commentThe Federal Election Commission (FEC) is an independent regulatory agency of the United States whose purpose is to enforce campaign finance law in United States federal elections. Created in 1974 through amendments to the Federal Election Campaign Act,[4] the commission describes its duties as "to disclose campaign finance information, to enforce the provisions of the law such as the limits and prohibitions on contributions, and to oversee the public funding of Presidential elections."
    So, it doesn't fall under the FEC's jurisdiction but its still a federal crime. Not just for the states to prosecute.

    Voting twice is illegal under both North Carolina and federal law. In North Carolina, it is also illegal “to induce” someone else to fraudulently cast a ballot.

    Trump has been a frequent and vocal critic of mail-in voting, claiming — without evidence — that it is susceptible to fraud. Trump himself has voted by mail a number of times.

    WECT said the way North Carolina’s system is set up, it is “clerically impossible for a person to vote twice,” because once the mail-in ballot is received, the voter would not be allowed to cast a vote in person.


    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-suggests-north-carolina-residents-vote-twice-which-is-illegal-2020-09-02

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,367
    And CYA Barr doesn't even know the laws he swore an oath to uphold. What a fucking clown car of an administration.

    When asked about Trump’s suggestion Wednesday night on CNN, U.S. Attorney General William Barr said Trump was “trying to make a point,” but declined to say whether voting twice is illegal (it unequivocally is), telling host Wolf Blitzer “I don’t know what the law in the particular state says.”

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-suggests-north-carolina-residents-vote-twice-which-is-illegal-2020-09-02
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    52 U.S. Code § 10307.Prohibited acts


    (e)Voting more than once
    (1)
    Whoever votes more than once in an election referred to in paragraph (2) shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.
    (2)
    The prohibition of this subsection applies with respect to any general, special, or primary election held solely or in part for the purpose of selecting or electing any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, presidential elector, Member of the United States Senate, Member of the United States House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, Guam, or the Virgin Islands, or Resident Commissioner of the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico.
    (3)
    As used in this subsection, the term “votes more than once” does not include the casting of an additional ballot if all prior ballots of that voter were invalidated, nor does it include the voting in two jurisdictions under section 10502 of this title, to the extent two ballots are not cast for an election to the same candidacy or office.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Biden
    if trump wants to test it out, he should vote twice himself. same with junior, eric, ivanka, and jared. make it a family affair! and don't forget to take video and post it to twitter to own the libs!
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    if trump wants to test it out, he should vote twice himself. same with junior, eric, ivanka, and jared. make it a family affair! and don't forget to take video and post it to twitter to own the libs!
    I'd like to see them do it.  I'd enjoy seeing some his supporters ignore it while others defend it.  I'd enjoy (in a self-harming sort of way) watching absolutely nothing come of it.
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    Biden
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Type your commentThe Federal Election Commission (FEC) is an independent regulatory agency of the United States whose purpose is to enforce campaign finance law in United States federal elections. Created in 1974 through amendments to the Federal Election Campaign Act,[4] the commission describes its duties as "to disclose campaign finance information, to enforce the provisions of the law such as the limits and prohibitions on contributions, and to oversee the public funding of Presidential elections."
    So, it doesn't fall under the FEC's jurisdiction but its still a federal crime. Not just for the states to prosecute.

    Voting twice is illegal under both North Carolina and federal law. In North Carolina, it is also illegal “to induce” someone else to fraudulently cast a ballot.

    Trump has been a frequent and vocal critic of mail-in voting, claiming — without evidence — that it is susceptible to fraud. Trump himself has voted by mail a number of times.

    WECT said the way North Carolina’s system is set up, it is “clerically impossible for a person to vote twice,” because once the mail-in ballot is received, the voter would not be allowed to cast a vote in person.


    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-suggests-north-carolina-residents-vote-twice-which-is-illegal-2020-09-02


    but its only going to be prosecuted by one or the other.
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  • Gern Blansten
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    Biden
    cutz said:
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    That's leadership there.  That's the hard work it takes,  not picking a side and doing a photo op.
    Yes it is.

    Did Biden call the Jacob Family too?
    Yes he did and spoke with them for an hour with the family’s attorney listening in. Team Trump Treason wouldn’t call and speak if they had their attorney on the call. Pathetic.
    I thought I heard that he did.
    No...tRump said he spoke with the Blake family pastor...the Blake family then said that they don't have a pastor


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    That's leadership there.  That's the hard work it takes,  not picking a side and doing a photo op.
    Yes it is.

    Did Biden call the Jacob Family too?
    Yes he did and spoke with them for an hour with the family’s attorney listening in. Team Trump Treason wouldn’t call and speak if they had their attorney on the call. Pathetic.
    I thought I heard that he did.
    No...tRump said he spoke with the Blake family pastor...the Blake family then said that they don't have a pastor


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    mickeyrat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Type your commentThe Federal Election Commission (FEC) is an independent regulatory agency of the United States whose purpose is to enforce campaign finance law in United States federal elections. Created in 1974 through amendments to the Federal Election Campaign Act,[4] the commission describes its duties as "to disclose campaign finance information, to enforce the provisions of the law such as the limits and prohibitions on contributions, and to oversee the public funding of Presidential elections."
    So, it doesn't fall under the FEC's jurisdiction but its still a federal crime. Not just for the states to prosecute.

    Voting twice is illegal under both North Carolina and federal law. In North Carolina, it is also illegal “to induce” someone else to fraudulently cast a ballot.

    Trump has been a frequent and vocal critic of mail-in voting, claiming — without evidence — that it is susceptible to fraud. Trump himself has voted by mail a number of times.

    WECT said the way North Carolina’s system is set up, it is “clerically impossible for a person to vote twice,” because once the mail-in ballot is received, the voter would not be allowed to cast a vote in person.


    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-suggests-north-carolina-residents-vote-twice-which-is-illegal-2020-09-02


    but its only going to be prosecuted by one or the other.
    Correct, and by the state it occurs in as they have the immediate jurisdiction to charge and prosecute as almost all ballots will have regional and state elections on them. So even if Barr turned a blind eye to federal enforcement, the states can and will prosecute.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mickeyrat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Type your commentThe Federal Election Commission (FEC) is an independent regulatory agency of the United States whose purpose is to enforce campaign finance law in United States federal elections. Created in 1974 through amendments to the Federal Election Campaign Act,[4] the commission describes its duties as "to disclose campaign finance information, to enforce the provisions of the law such as the limits and prohibitions on contributions, and to oversee the public funding of Presidential elections."
    So, it doesn't fall under the FEC's jurisdiction but its still a federal crime. Not just for the states to prosecute.

    Voting twice is illegal under both North Carolina and federal law. In North Carolina, it is also illegal “to induce” someone else to fraudulently cast a ballot.

    Trump has been a frequent and vocal critic of mail-in voting, claiming — without evidence — that it is susceptible to fraud. Trump himself has voted by mail a number of times.

    WECT said the way North Carolina’s system is set up, it is “clerically impossible for a person to vote twice,” because once the mail-in ballot is received, the voter would not be allowed to cast a vote in person.


    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-suggests-north-carolina-residents-vote-twice-which-is-illegal-2020-09-02


    but its only going to be prosecuted by one or the other.
    So CYA Barr can choose to prosecute if the state does not if it falls into the federal election category.
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