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  • jerparker20
    jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,529
    Biden
    This is disgusting, but you know he loves the flag, the military....

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,367
    jerparker20 said:
    This is disgusting, but you know he loves the flag, the military....

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
    Who would want Team Trump Treason as their CIC, particularly if you’ve served or are serving? Why would you salute this POS?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,521
    Biden
    jerparker20 said:
    This is disgusting, but you know he loves the flag, the military....

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
    if true (a whole lot of "people familiar with his opinion"), he is the most disgusting president ever. for so many reasons, but it is beyond comprehension how anyone in the military supports this idiot. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,367
    Kiss the ring.


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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,367
    Media are blaming Team Trump Treason and his getting away with disparaging Senator McCain’s Service in Vietnam for thinking what he does about the military, his thoughts, his actions, etc. I would argue that it began and has festered since Shrub, or rightly so his minions, Swift Boated John Kerry, who served honorably and turned against war as the first solution to problems. Think Team Trump Treason’s base will shift? Think again.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,521
    Biden
    i turned on my tv. as i don't have cable, i went to youtube. in my suggestions was ben shapiro interviewing andrew yang. I'm only halfway through, but goddamnit, @brianlux, i wish the populace was so much more interested in substance rather than personality, that each candidate got equal airtime to give their platforms, because motherfucker, andrew yang is the future. or he should have been. 

    he's done the research. he knows his stuff. he's so much more intelligent than any presidential candidate i've ever seen. 

    but no, we're stuck with the establishment and the orange turd. 

    what a missed opportunity. we need smart people in office, not dynamic people. i hope one day soon everyone wakes up and realizes it. 
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  • jerparker20
    jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,529
    Biden
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    i turned on my tv. as i don't have cable, i went to youtube. in my suggestions was ben shapiro interviewing andrew yang. I'm only halfway through, but goddamnit, @brianlux, i wish the populace was so much more interested in substance rather than personality, that each candidate got equal airtime to give their platforms, because motherfucker, andrew yang is the future. or he should have been. 

    he's done the research. he knows his stuff. he's so much more intelligent than any presidential candidate i've ever seen. 

    but no, we're stuck with the establishment and the orange turd. 

    what a missed opportunity. we need smart people in office, not dynamic people. i hope one day soon everyone wakes up and realizes it. 
    Yang will Run for mayor of NYC.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,367
    edited September 2020
    Sleepy Woke Joe admitted to a mistake, that thinking hate was defeated. Can anyone here confirm one mistake that Team Trump Treason has admitted to or owned? Teetering on Shrub territory, boyz and guuurlz!
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Sleepy Woke Joe needs to shoot some skeet, yo! Obama did it, big ears and Beats and all. Can anyone seriously imagine Team Trump Treason handling, aiming, firing and recoiling a shotgun? Seriously.
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    I'm sitting this one out
    I don’t want to imagine Joe Biden or Donald Trump shooting skeet!

    Not before bedtime!
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,367
    dankind said:
    I don’t want to imagine Joe Biden or Donald Trump shooting skeet!

    Not before bedtime!
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Biden
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    i turned on my tv. as i don't have cable, i went to youtube. in my suggestions was ben shapiro interviewing andrew yang. I'm only halfway through, but goddamnit, @brianlux, i wish the populace was so much more interested in substance rather than personality, that each candidate got equal airtime to give their platforms, because motherfucker, andrew yang is the future. or he should have been. 

    he's done the research. he knows his stuff. he's so much more intelligent than any presidential candidate i've ever seen. 

    but no, we're stuck with the establishment and the orange turd. 

    what a missed opportunity. we need smart people in office, not dynamic people. i hope one day soon everyone wakes up and realizes it. 

    Damn straight, my friend!  How can you go wrong with MATH?  Make America Think Harder.  Not only is Yang one smart dude,  he's personable, cares a lot for people, reputed to be a great dad, and he sets a great example.  And he's young enough to have a least a couple goes at running for president.  We NEED this kind of hope. 

    I'll be wearing my MATH pin tomorrow to acknowledge your awesome post, buddy!

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,840
    Biden
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    jerparker20 said:
    This is disgusting, but you know he loves the flag, the military....

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
    if true (a whole lot of "people familiar with his opinion"), he is the most disgusting president ever. for so many reasons, but it is beyond comprehension how anyone in the military supports this idiot. 
    Agree.  100%.  Couldn't understand it before, but now...I mean...no words.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,840
    Biden
    brianlux said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    i turned on my tv. as i don't have cable, i went to youtube. in my suggestions was ben shapiro interviewing andrew yang. I'm only halfway through, but goddamnit, @brianlux, i wish the populace was so much more interested in substance rather than personality, that each candidate got equal airtime to give their platforms, because motherfucker, andrew yang is the future. or he should have been. 

    he's done the research. he knows his stuff. he's so much more intelligent than any presidential candidate i've ever seen. 

    but no, we're stuck with the establishment and the orange turd. 

    what a missed opportunity. we need smart people in office, not dynamic people. i hope one day soon everyone wakes up and realizes it. 

    Damn straight, my friend!  How can you go wrong with MATH?  Make America Think Harder.  Not only is Yang one smart dude,  he's personable, cares a lot for people, reputed to be a great dad, and he sets a great example.  And he's young enough to have a least a couple goes at running for president.  We NEED this kind of hope. 

    I'll be wearing my MATH pin tomorrow to acknowledge your awesome post, buddy!

    Well I think he's $1000/month to all americans idea was a dumb one to attach yourself to at this moment.  Political suicide...and it worked out that way.

    Now - is their validity to the argument that warrants discussion...sure.  
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    edited September 2020
    I'm sitting this one out
    cincybearcat said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    jerparker20 said:
    This is disgusting, but you know he loves the flag, the military....

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
    if true (a whole lot of "people familiar with his opinion"), he is the most disgusting president ever. for so many reasons, but it is beyond comprehension how anyone in the military supports this idiot. 
    Agree.  100%.  Couldn't understand it before, but now...I mean...no words.
    It’s because military people are stupid. Duh! 

    It’s right in the article. Sheesh!
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    The fact that he survived mocking McCain for being captured is all we need to know.

    This is not even as impactful as as the most minor Biden gaffes.
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    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    The fact that he survived mocking McCain for being captured is all we need to know.

    This is not even as impactful as as the most minor Biden gaffes.
    I don't know. That's pretty subhuman (even by Trump standards) to call soldiers that died in war "losers." You're probably right that it won't affect him because none of the "rules" of American politics have applied to him since the moment he came down the escalator. But still...what a sociopath. 
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  • mrussel1
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    Biden
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    The fact that he survived mocking McCain for being captured is all we need to know.

    This is not even as impactful as as the most minor Biden gaffes.
    I don't know. That's pretty subhuman (even by Trump standards) to call soldiers that died in war "losers." You're probably right that it won't affect him because none of the "rules" of American politics have applied to him since the moment he came down the escalator. But still...what a sociopath. 
    It helps when you have a frame of reference of when wars took place, why they happened, and who were our allies.  Trump said this..

    "The closest thing is in 1917, they say, the great pandemic. It certainly was a terrible thing where they lost anywhere from 50 to 100 million people, probably ended the Second World War," Trump said. "All the soldiers were sick. That was a terrible situation."

    And from the same Atlantic article, But Trump, on that same trip, asked aides, “Who were the good guys in this war?” He also said that he didn’t understand why the United States would intervene on the side of the Allies.
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,107
    Biden
    This WWI soldiers thing is pointless and isn’t going to influence anything. Some people will go on tv and say something about respecting veterans and lies and blah blah and it will be over, on to the next horrible thing that won’t effect trump in the least.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    Biden
    static111 said:
    This WWI soldiers thing is pointless and isn’t going to influence anything. Some people will go on tv and say something about respecting veterans and lies and blah blah and it will be over, on to the next horrible thing that won’t effect trump in the least.
    I don't know if that's true or not.  The other day I posted the Military Times poll of approval of Trump and it's in the high 30's.  Trump needs these votes.  So any chipping away of his support can make a difference.  

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