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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,303
    mace1229 said:
    Propaganda exists on all sides. I actually believe the left is very effective with it. They've had a campaign for 4 years telling people you are evil if you don't vote for their party. I rarely hear any issues discussed, but its just how horrible of a person you are and how you deserve to suffer, etc, if you don't vote democrat. It may not be in my mailbox or phone calls, but that is the constant message from many leading politicians like Pelosi. Even the message here from many. Vote with me or you're an evil worthless piece of crap.
    That's propaganda people.
    To the first bold, can you point me to anything that backs this up as true?

    To the second bold, can you point out or link to any public statements, campaign messaging or anything at all that backs this up as a true statement, from Pelosi or "many leading politicians?" There should be copious amounts in the public realm if what you allege is true, yes?

    To the third bold, can you point to one post where you or anyone with right views or these repugnant views ("how you deserve to suffer, etc. if you don't vote democrat") that make you the target of the left have called you or alluded to you as an "evil worthless piece of crap?"

    All of which is such strong and numerous propaganda in volume that it should be really easy for you to point out with a link or a cut/post and a citation, correct?.
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    I'm sitting this one out
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    lindamarie73 said:
    Somebody needs to take His keys away from him...Good lord Joe, you are going to blow it...Stay in the basement!!

    Thomas Catenacci, a Northeastern University college student, no thanks. 
    As a former and longtime Fenway resident (~10 years), I took the liberty of editing this for you. 
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  • lindamarie73
    lindamarie73 Posts: 491
    josevolution said:
    The Juggler said:
    lindamarie73 said:
    Somebody needs to take His keys away from him...Good lord Joe, you are going to blow it...Stay in the basement!!

    Wow this is a pathetic attempt to smear Biden. Hey Linda, would you like, maybe, 5-10 examples of Trump making worse stumbles from literally THE SAME EXACT DAY? 

    Man who has stuttered his entire life stumbles over a few words once in a twenty minute speech and the right wing nutjobs act like he's lost it while ignoring multiple missteps from Trump on a daily basis. 

    You concerned about Trump's mini strokes at all? Nah, didn't think so. 

    lol 
    “Mini Strokes” that’s Stormy’s nickname for Covidiot!

    Now that’s funny.  Good one!! 
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    Biden
    lindamarie73 said:
    darwinstheory said:
    lindamarie73 said:
    Somebody needs to take His keys away from him...Good lord Joe, you are going to blow it...Stay in the basement!!

    Oh good, you're back! 
    Not really.  Just bored at the airport waiting on a flight. Couldn’t believe the Commie News Network showed that, had a Laugh at the bar.  Carry on....

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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,071
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mace1229 said:
    Propaganda exists on all sides. I actually believe the left is very effective with it. They've had a campaign for 4 years telling people you are evil if you don't vote for their party. I rarely hear any issues discussed, but its just how horrible of a person you are and how you deserve to suffer, etc, if you don't vote democrat. It may not be in my mailbox or phone calls, but that is the constant message from many leading politicians like Pelosi. Even the message here from many. Vote with me or you're an evil worthless piece of crap.
    That's propaganda people.
    To the first bold, can you point me to anything that backs this up as true?

    To the second bold, can you point out or link to any public statements, campaign messaging or anything at all that backs this up as a true statement, from Pelosi or "many leading politicians?" There should be copious amounts in the public realm if what you allege is true, yes?

    To the third bold, can you point to one post where you or anyone with right views or these repugnant views ("how you deserve to suffer, etc. if you don't vote democrat") that make you the target of the left have called you or alluded to you as an "evil worthless piece of crap?"

    All of which is such strong and numerous propaganda in volume that it should be really easy for you to point out with a link or a cut/post and a citation, correct?.
    I was mistaken. She didn't call republicans evil, she said they are "enemies of the state." My point was, there seems to be so much hate from the left at anyone who disagrees with them. Are you saying that isn't true? It goes back before the deplorables comment even.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/08/24/pelosi_republicans_are_domestic_enemies.html
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,303
    PWMCT. Put that on a hat and send it to Team Trump Treason or wear it at one of his rallies. Powmfrot, Connecticut?
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  • jerparker20
    jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,529
    edited September 2020
    Biden
    tbergs said:
    jerparker20 said:
    tbergs said:
    Got this fear mongering propaganda in the mail today.

    Biden may have aged another 10+ years based on that picture. Since both sides are the same I'll await the oppositions' fear mongering mail as well. So hard to choose which candidate to vote for.
    This showed up in my mailbox today. That Biden guy is something else. I also got a notice to request a mail-in ballot that also informed me Joe Biden and Tina Smith support letting trans individuals use bathrooms with little girls and compete in boxing matches with women, probably nice old ladies who go to bible study. Also that My birthday will be taken away, and other nonsense.
    The propaganda from the right is intense. Not only the mailings, but I've been getting text messages, and yes, even telling me to request a mail in ballot. Hmmm, I thought that was bad...

    I haven't gotten anything from anybody about voting Democrat though. The right is on the TV, in my mailbox and on my phone constantly. That is what worries me most. So many dumb people believe that shit being sent out and there's no countering it.

    I also wonder if it's my rural zip code they are targeting knowing support is strongest outside the major cities.
    Where in MN are you? I was up in the Wadena/Park Rapids area on Saturday visiting my brother. Got to see a Trump Parade of Toothless Tubbies in their flagged out trucks rolling down the highway. Maybe 40 trucks. It’s evidently a regular thing up there. My brother hates them.

    i grew up in Brainerd. It’s a lost cause. They drank the Kool Aid. Sad.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,303
    mace1229 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mace1229 said:
    Propaganda exists on all sides. I actually believe the left is very effective with it. They've had a campaign for 4 years telling people you are evil if you don't vote for their party. I rarely hear any issues discussed, but its just how horrible of a person you are and how you deserve to suffer, etc, if you don't vote democrat. It may not be in my mailbox or phone calls, but that is the constant message from many leading politicians like Pelosi. Even the message here from many. Vote with me or you're an evil worthless piece of crap.
    That's propaganda people.
    To the first bold, can you point me to anything that backs this up as true?

    To the second bold, can you point out or link to any public statements, campaign messaging or anything at all that backs this up as a true statement, from Pelosi or "many leading politicians?" There should be copious amounts in the public realm if what you allege is true, yes?

    To the third bold, can you point to one post where you or anyone with right views or these repugnant views ("how you deserve to suffer, etc. if you don't vote democrat") that make you the target of the left have called you or alluded to you as an "evil worthless piece of crap?"

    All of which is such strong and numerous propaganda in volume that it should be really easy for you to point out with a link or a cut/post and a citation, correct?.
    I was mistaken. She didn't call republicans evil, she said they are "enemies of the state." My point was, there seems to be so much hate from the left at anyone who disagrees with them. Are you saying that isn't true? It goes back before the deplorables comment even.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/08/24/pelosi_republicans_are_domestic_enemies.html
    Do you disagree with her characterization of Team Trump Treason and his collusion with Putin on the ritz and the repub enablers in Congress, who by and large are determined to strip away our democracy and the inherent checks and balances? Have you not been paying attention for the past 8 months with all that is going on, from covid misinformation and stupidity, to the post office and calling mail in voting a fraud, to the reorganization of our intelligence agencies and reduction of voting interference information, to all the shit in between too numerous to list, inclusive of Putin on the ritz fucking with us and not a peep from Team Trump Treason? And you’re concerned about an “enemies of the state” comment?

    Please provide examples of “hate,” even some before the Deplorables comment. I have no problem with Nancy’s characterization and I don’t see it as “hate.” Willie Horton? Now that was some hate. Hate is a strong word and disagreeing on policy or accurate characterization of your opponents does not equate to hate. What about the other bolded statements you made?

    Hate and fear of the other is all the right has left. The 400+ house bills or there abouts waiting senate action are indicative of that. The party of “NO” painted themselves into a corner. They’re down to all they have left, fear. And it might just be enough.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,813
    Biden
    lindamarie73 said:
    darwinstheory said:
    lindamarie73 said:
    Somebody needs to take His keys away from him...Good lord Joe, you are going to blow it...Stay in the basement!!

    Oh good, you're back! 
    Not really.  Just bored at the airport waiting on a flight. Couldn’t believe the Commie News Network showed that, had a Laugh at the bar.  Carry on....

    Oh come on now, Linda, you know you like to hang out with us radical commie pinko freaks!  :smiley:
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,813
    Biden
    Vitalogensia said:
    brianlux said:
    lindamarie73 said:
    Somebody needs to take His keys away from him...Good lord Joe, you are going to blow it...Stay in the basement!!


    I myself get pretty tongue tied talking about massive numbers of death.  PLEASE don't take away my keys!

    And to be fair, let's maybe post an example of Biden's opponent's verbal eloquence and  linguistic prowess.
    Agreed, it was a cringe-worthy moment, but Trump has been doing the same for years now.

    Always good to see a new or seldom seen face here!  :smile:
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,008
    Biden
    mace1229 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mace1229 said:
    Propaganda exists on all sides. I actually believe the left is very effective with it. They've had a campaign for 4 years telling people you are evil if you don't vote for their party. I rarely hear any issues discussed, but its just how horrible of a person you are and how you deserve to suffer, etc, if you don't vote democrat. It may not be in my mailbox or phone calls, but that is the constant message from many leading politicians like Pelosi. Even the message here from many. Vote with me or you're an evil worthless piece of crap.
    That's propaganda people.
    To the first bold, can you point me to anything that backs this up as true?

    To the second bold, can you point out or link to any public statements, campaign messaging or anything at all that backs this up as a true statement, from Pelosi or "many leading politicians?" There should be copious amounts in the public realm if what you allege is true, yes?

    To the third bold, can you point to one post where you or anyone with right views or these repugnant views ("how you deserve to suffer, etc. if you don't vote democrat") that make you the target of the left have called you or alluded to you as an "evil worthless piece of crap?"

    All of which is such strong and numerous propaganda in volume that it should be really easy for you to point out with a link or a cut/post and a citation, correct?.
    I was mistaken. She didn't call republicans evil, she said they are "enemies of the state." My point was, there seems to be so much hate from the left at anyone who disagrees with them. Are you saying that isn't true? It goes back before the deplorables comment even.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/08/24/pelosi_republicans_are_domestic_enemies.html
    You're mistaken AGAIN.  She didn't call Republicans enemies of the state.  She said that the team at 1600 Penn Ave and their allies in Congress are enemies to our voting system.  How did you screw that up twice?
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,513
    Biden
    jerparker20 said:
    tbergs said:
    jerparker20 said:
    tbergs said:
    Got this fear mongering propaganda in the mail today.

    Biden may have aged another 10+ years based on that picture. Since both sides are the same I'll await the oppositions' fear mongering mail as well. So hard to choose which candidate to vote for.
    This showed up in my mailbox today. That Biden guy is something else. I also got a notice to request a mail-in ballot that also informed me Joe Biden and Tina Smith support letting trans individuals use bathrooms with little girls and compete in boxing matches with women, probably nice old ladies who go to bible study. Also that My birthday will be taken away, and other nonsense.
    The propaganda from the right is intense. Not only the mailings, but I've been getting text messages, and yes, even telling me to request a mail in ballot. Hmmm, I thought that was bad...

    I haven't gotten anything from anybody about voting Democrat though. The right is on the TV, in my mailbox and on my phone constantly. That is what worries me most. So many dumb people believe that shit being sent out and there's no countering it.

    I also wonder if it's my rural zip code they are targeting knowing support is strongest outside the major cities.
    Where in MN are you? I was up in the Wadena/Park Rapids area on Saturday visiting my brother. Got to see a Trump Parade of Toothless Tubbies in their flagged out trucks rolling down the highway. Maybe 40 trucks. It’s evidently a regular thing up there. My brother hates them.

    i grew up in Brainerd. It’s a lost cause. They drank the Kool Aid. Sad.
    Southern area by Northfield. Grew up in the Staples area and lived in Brainerd for about 4 years so I am very familiar with the Wadena area. Sounds similar to what I see around here. The other day, what appeared to be a 16 year old, was driving a go kart around the area with a 6 foot Trump flag on the back waving in the wind. Four wheelers, coolers with a motor and go karts are a common sighting on the roads around here. Between that, the dumb signs in yards and on houses and the drunken idiots in their garages every night, it's annoying.

    I think anyone who thinks both sides are the same needs to come stay in a rural area for at least a week. May change their opinion on which side has a bigger problem. I'll wait for someone to bring up "protesters" since they're destroying cities all across the country....

    The amount of money people around me have spent on stupid shit related to Trump, that is all likely made in China, is ridiculous, but yet they complain about those free loaders getting unemployment and the "war zone" in the cities. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mace1229 said:
    Propaganda exists on all sides. I actually believe the left is very effective with it. They've had a campaign for 4 years telling people you are evil if you don't vote for their party. I rarely hear any issues discussed, but its just how horrible of a person you are and how you deserve to suffer, etc, if you don't vote democrat. It may not be in my mailbox or phone calls, but that is the constant message from many leading politicians like Pelosi. Even the message here from many. Vote with me or you're an evil worthless piece of crap.
    That's propaganda people.
    To the first bold, can you point me to anything that backs this up as true?

    To the second bold, can you point out or link to any public statements, campaign messaging or anything at all that backs this up as a true statement, from Pelosi or "many leading politicians?" There should be copious amounts in the public realm if what you allege is true, yes?

    To the third bold, can you point to one post where you or anyone with right views or these repugnant views ("how you deserve to suffer, etc. if you don't vote democrat") that make you the target of the left have called you or alluded to you as an "evil worthless piece of crap?"

    All of which is such strong and numerous propaganda in volume that it should be really easy for you to point out with a link or a cut/post and a citation, correct?.
    I was mistaken. She didn't call republicans evil, she said they are "enemies of the state." My point was, there seems to be so much hate from the left at anyone who disagrees with them. Are you saying that isn't true? It goes back before the deplorables comment even.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/08/24/pelosi_republicans_are_domestic_enemies.html
    You're mistaken AGAIN.  She didn't call Republicans enemies of the state.  She said that the team at 1600 Penn Ave and their allies in Congress are enemies to our voting system.  How did you screw that up twice?
    Reading is hard. It's a running theme around here.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    I think it was Trump who called journalists enemies of the people....
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,303
    dankind said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    lindamarie73 said:
    Somebody needs to take His keys away from him...Good lord Joe, you are going to blow it...Stay in the basement!!

    Thomas Catenacci, a Northeastern University college student, no thanks. 
    As a former and longtime Fenway resident (~10 years), I took the liberty of editing this for you. 
    Wow! Are you an editor? If not, you should be!
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,303
    Tim Mirtaugh, Director of Communication for Team Trump Treason 2020, thinks the only mode of transportation today is by plane and got pretty hot under the collar trying to defend Team Trump Treason’s claim of a flight full of black clad anarchists, looters and rioters with gear. He couldn’t give any facts but questions how it is they arrived in DC.

    Wasn't Murtaugh the evil villain in the first Die Hard movie? He fits the part.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,008
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    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mace1229 said:
    Propaganda exists on all sides. I actually believe the left is very effective with it. They've had a campaign for 4 years telling people you are evil if you don't vote for their party. I rarely hear any issues discussed, but its just how horrible of a person you are and how you deserve to suffer, etc, if you don't vote democrat. It may not be in my mailbox or phone calls, but that is the constant message from many leading politicians like Pelosi. Even the message here from many. Vote with me or you're an evil worthless piece of crap.
    That's propaganda people.
    To the first bold, can you point me to anything that backs this up as true?

    To the second bold, can you point out or link to any public statements, campaign messaging or anything at all that backs this up as a true statement, from Pelosi or "many leading politicians?" There should be copious amounts in the public realm if what you allege is true, yes?

    To the third bold, can you point to one post where you or anyone with right views or these repugnant views ("how you deserve to suffer, etc. if you don't vote democrat") that make you the target of the left have called you or alluded to you as an "evil worthless piece of crap?"

    All of which is such strong and numerous propaganda in volume that it should be really easy for you to point out with a link or a cut/post and a citation, correct?.
    I was mistaken. She didn't call republicans evil, she said they are "enemies of the state." My point was, there seems to be so much hate from the left at anyone who disagrees with them. Are you saying that isn't true? It goes back before the deplorables comment even.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/08/24/pelosi_republicans_are_domestic_enemies.html
    You're mistaken AGAIN.  She didn't call Republicans enemies of the state.  She said that the team at 1600 Penn Ave and their allies in Congress are enemies to our voting system.  How did you screw that up twice?
    Reading is hard. It's a running theme around here.
    Worse, this was a video,  so listening. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,008
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Tim Mirtaugh, Director of Communication for Team Trump Treason 2020, thinks the only mode of transportation today is by plane and got pretty hot under the collar trying to defend Team Trump Treason’s claim of a flight full of black clad anarchists, looters and rioters with gear. He couldn’t give any facts but questions how it is they arrived in DC.

    Wasn't Murtaugh the evil villain in the first Die Hard movie? He fits the part.
    Antifa, Inc. commonly charters private jets to their protests.  They used to own a private plane but in cost cutting strategies,  they decided to forward their internet traffic to Biden's website.  It was part of their commitment to the Board. 
  • jerparker20
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    tbergs said:
    jerparker20 said:
    tbergs said:
    jerparker20 said:
    tbergs said:
    Got this fear mongering propaganda in the mail today.

    Biden may have aged another 10+ years based on that picture. Since both sides are the same I'll await the oppositions' fear mongering mail as well. So hard to choose which candidate to vote for.
    This showed up in my mailbox today. That Biden guy is something else. I also got a notice to request a mail-in ballot that also informed me Joe Biden and Tina Smith support letting trans individuals use bathrooms with little girls and compete in boxing matches with women, probably nice old ladies who go to bible study. Also that My birthday will be taken away, and other nonsense.
    The propaganda from the right is intense. Not only the mailings, but I've been getting text messages, and yes, even telling me to request a mail in ballot. Hmmm, I thought that was bad...

    I haven't gotten anything from anybody about voting Democrat though. The right is on the TV, in my mailbox and on my phone constantly. That is what worries me most. So many dumb people believe that shit being sent out and there's no countering it.

    I also wonder if it's my rural zip code they are targeting knowing support is strongest outside the major cities.
    Where in MN are you? I was up in the Wadena/Park Rapids area on Saturday visiting my brother. Got to see a Trump Parade of Toothless Tubbies in their flagged out trucks rolling down the highway. Maybe 40 trucks. It’s evidently a regular thing up there. My brother hates them.

    i grew up in Brainerd. It’s a lost cause. They drank the Kool Aid. Sad.
    Southern area by Northfield. Grew up in the Staples area and lived in Brainerd for about 4 years so I am very familiar with the Wadena area. Sounds similar to what I see around here. The other day, what appeared to be a 16 year old, was driving a go kart around the area with a 6 foot Trump flag on the back waving in the wind. Four wheelers, coolers with a motor and go karts are a common sighting on the roads around here. Between that, the dumb signs in yards and on houses and the drunken idiots in their garages every night, it's annoying.

    I think anyone who thinks both sides are the same needs to come stay in a rural area for at least a week. May change their opinion on which side has a bigger problem. I'll wait for someone to bring up "protesters" since they're destroying cities all across the country....

    The amount of money people around me have spent on stupid shit related to Trump, that is all likely made in China, is ridiculous, but yet they complain about those free loaders getting unemployment and the "war zone" in the cities. 
    I have a buddy that lives outside of Northfield. I know what you’re talking about.

    i too am amazed at the amount of money some of these folks out in the rural parts spend on trump yard trash. The trailer looks like it’s on it’s last wall, but there’s 12 trump flags that are probably $40 a piece and 12 $10 yard signs out front. The Trump Dump roadside flea markets are another thing to behold. Drove past a few of those last weekend. Every one had someone dropping money at them.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mrussel1 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Tim Mirtaugh, Director of Communication for Team Trump Treason 2020, thinks the only mode of transportation today is by plane and got pretty hot under the collar trying to defend Team Trump Treason’s claim of a flight full of black clad anarchists, looters and rioters with gear. He couldn’t give any facts but questions how it is they arrived in DC.

    Wasn't Murtaugh the evil villain in the first Die Hard movie? He fits the part.
    Antifa, Inc. commonly charters private jets to their protests.  They used to own a private plane but in cost cutting strategies,  they decided to forward their internet traffic to Biden's website.  It was part of their commitment to the Board. 
    Jeesh, have they fallen on hard times. Going from private charter to commercial must be really irritating. No wonder they’re so surly.

    And he was asking the CNN host how the protestors knew who the chairman of the New Hampshire Republican Party was when he exited the White House on the last night of the RPC. Umm, gee, it’s DC, people are pretty attuned to the movers and shakers within Political parties or, umm, maybe but I don’t know, I can’t be sure but maybe you’ve heard about it Tim? It’s called the interwebbery way back machine. I hear libraries have them. You remember libraries, don’t you Tim? I’m sure repubs were asking themselves the same questions.
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