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Unfortunately his influence will outlive his power and maybe himHughFreakingDillon said:
yep. luckily, if he does lose, he will no longer hold power or be any source of influence. once he's done, the party that initially rejected him, then embraced him, will toss him to the used bin once again.gimmesometruth27 said:
if trump loses he will not go into retirement quietly like all the other presidents. he HAS to be the center of attention and will continue to be after he leaves office. he will start his own network. even if trump world crumbles and he goes on any sort of a trial, it will be front page news for years. we will still talk about him because he will continue to be an active threat to this country. just watch.nicknyr15 said:
I’m not going to argue with you about which piece Of shit is a bigger piece of shit. I just hope if trump loses in November then people here will stop bringing him up in every post, even when it has nothing to do with him.Bentleyspop said:
No he is notnicknyr15 said:
Biggest piece of shit ever.HughFreakingDillon said:Shaun King trying to profit off dead black people. unreal. sends out an email starting with the announcement of Chadwick Boseman's death and ends with asking you to buy his book.
he really is disgusting trash.
While I agree that he is a piece of shit.
The biggest piece of shit award goes to the piece-of-shit-in-chief
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If you're on FB, check this out. Very moving.
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Thats i definitely very moving.brianlux said:If you're on FB, check this out. Very moving.
My girlfriend's nieces are black, raised by upper middle class white parents in a very white neighborhood.
They haven't had to deal with the bullshit that Nick Wrights son has had to deal with. Maybe because they are girls. Maybe they have been lucky.
Being a young black male in this country has to such. And the current president is not making things any easier.0 -
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Thats i definitely very moving.brianlux said:If you're on FB, check this out. Very moving.
My girlfriend's nieces are black, raised by upper middle class white parents in a very white neighborhood.
They haven't had to deal with the bullshit that Nick Wrights son has had to deal with. Maybe because they are girls. Maybe they have been lucky.
Being a young black male in this country has to such. And the current president is not making things any easier.I can't imagine how hard it is for people of color in these situations.We have small but strongly contingency of hateful conservatives in our town (along with some decent conservative folks, I should point out) who, I'm told, have harassed some of our small black population here. One guy posted on a local FB BLM site an offer to carry a smart phone and follow any black folks who need to drive through town in case they get harassed. At first that sounded a little dramatic, but these days? I guess not. I thought that was quite a generous offer. He also offered to accompany any person of color shopping if they so desire."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
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Apples and oranges. That scenario doesn't fit most of the incidents that happened.jerparker20 said:
A few years back a severe storm blow through my neighborhood. Me and a neighbor were out on the sidewalk in front of my house watching the power company remove trees. A cop pulled up, rolled down the window and told us to go inside. I told him to piss off and move along, which he did. The next night, five blocks from that location, a cop from the same department shot and killed Philando Castile.tempo_n_groove said:
If you talk to cops they say the same thing. "Listen to their commands and don't escalate the situation".HughFreakingDillon said:
sadly, i don't see this changing. i see so much "if he just listened to the cops....". people just don't fucking get it. i'm afraid they never will.Bentleyspop said:It makes me sad that she has to do this...
They are miles apart from how you think.
Morale of the story, I as a white man didnt need to heed the officers command, but a black man didn’t even get the chance to make that decision.
Cops get called to a scene so they are on high alert, this cop just drove by you.0 -
Nope. This was in response to a comment that people need to heed and obey what cops tell them to do. The cop interacted with didnt tell me to go inside while driving by. He pulled up, as in up to the curb, stopped the vehicle, rolled down the window, and gave a command to go inside. I told him to piss off. I was in no way polite. He knew he was out of bounds and could not enforce what he was telling us to do, that’s why he drove off. Again, if I had been a nonwhite man, that interaction could have went sideways fast.tempo_n_groove said:
Apples and oranges. That scenario doesn't fit most of the incidents that happened.jerparker20 said:
A few years back a severe storm blow through my neighborhood. Me and a neighbor were out on the sidewalk in front of my house watching the power company remove trees. A cop pulled up, rolled down the window and told us to go inside. I told him to piss off and move along, which he did. The next night, five blocks from that location, a cop from the same department shot and killed Philando Castile.tempo_n_groove said:
If you talk to cops they say the same thing. "Listen to their commands and don't escalate the situation".HughFreakingDillon said:
sadly, i don't see this changing. i see so much "if he just listened to the cops....". people just don't fucking get it. i'm afraid they never will.Bentleyspop said:It makes me sad that she has to do this...
They are miles apart from how you think.
Morale of the story, I as a white man didnt need to heed the officers command, but a black man didn’t even get the chance to make that decision.
Cops get called to a scene so they are on high alert, this cop just drove by you.
If if a cop is to the point that they are so amped up during all calls/stops then they do need to be a cop.Post edited by jerparker20 on0 -
i kind of agree with tempo here.....I don't see that interaction going differently if you were black.jerparker20 said:
Nope. This was in response to a comment that people need to heed and obey what cops tell them to do. The cop interacted with didnt tell me to go inside while driving by. He pulled up, as in up to the curb, stopped the vehicle, rolled down the window, and gave a command to go inside. I told him to piss off. I was in no way polite. He knew he was out of bounds and could not enforce what he was telling us to do, that’s why he drove off. Again, if I had been a nonwhite man, that interaction could have went sideways fast.tempo_n_groove said:
Apples and oranges. That scenario doesn't fit most of the incidents that happened.jerparker20 said:
A few years back a severe storm blow through my neighborhood. Me and a neighbor were out on the sidewalk in front of my house watching the power company remove trees. A cop pulled up, rolled down the window and told us to go inside. I told him to piss off and move along, which he did. The next night, five blocks from that location, a cop from the same department shot and killed Philando Castile.tempo_n_groove said:
If you talk to cops they say the same thing. "Listen to their commands and don't escalate the situation".HughFreakingDillon said:
sadly, i don't see this changing. i see so much "if he just listened to the cops....". people just don't fucking get it. i'm afraid they never will.Bentleyspop said:It makes me sad that she has to do this...
They are miles apart from how you think.
Morale of the story, I as a white man didnt need to heed the officers command, but a black man didn’t even get the chance to make that decision.
Cops get called to a scene so they are on high alert, this cop just drove by you.
If if a cop is to the point that they are so amped up during all calls/stops then they do need to be a cop.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Again, it goes back to the point of heeding commands. I clearly did not heed the command to go inside my house. At the point I told the officer no, I was not obeying what I was told to do. According to some people, at that point the officer would have been within bounds to escalate the situation as I refused to comply. What I’m getting at is this reasoning put forth that if people just obey police all will be good. That is clearly not the case. There is also a pattern that white people more often than not are afforded more leeway in obeying the commands of police.HughFreakingDillon said:
i kind of agree with tempo here.....I don't see that interaction going differently if you were black.jerparker20 said:
Nope. This was in response to a comment that people need to heed and obey what cops tell them to do. The cop interacted with didnt tell me to go inside while driving by. He pulled up, as in up to the curb, stopped the vehicle, rolled down the window, and gave a command to go inside. I told him to piss off. I was in no way polite. He knew he was out of bounds and could not enforce what he was telling us to do, that’s why he drove off. Again, if I had been a nonwhite man, that interaction could have went sideways fast.tempo_n_groove said:
Apples and oranges. That scenario doesn't fit most of the incidents that happened.jerparker20 said:
A few years back a severe storm blow through my neighborhood. Me and a neighbor were out on the sidewalk in front of my house watching the power company remove trees. A cop pulled up, rolled down the window and told us to go inside. I told him to piss off and move along, which he did. The next night, five blocks from that location, a cop from the same department shot and killed Philando Castile.tempo_n_groove said:
If you talk to cops they say the same thing. "Listen to their commands and don't escalate the situation".HughFreakingDillon said:
sadly, i don't see this changing. i see so much "if he just listened to the cops....". people just don't fucking get it. i'm afraid they never will.Bentleyspop said:It makes me sad that she has to do this...
They are miles apart from how you think.
Morale of the story, I as a white man didnt need to heed the officers command, but a black man didn’t even get the chance to make that decision.
Cops get called to a scene so they are on high alert, this cop just drove by you.
If if a cop is to the point that they are so amped up during all calls/stops then they do need to be a cop.
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HughFreakingDillon said:
i kind of agree with tempo here.....I don't see that interaction going differently if you were black.jerparker20 said:
Nope. This was in response to a comment that people need to heed and obey what cops tell them to do. The cop interacted with didnt tell me to go inside while driving by. He pulled up, as in up to the curb, stopped the vehicle, rolled down the window, and gave a command to go inside. I told him to piss off. I was in no way polite. He knew he was out of bounds and could not enforce what he was telling us to do, that’s why he drove off. Again, if I had been a nonwhite man, that interaction could have went sideways fast.tempo_n_groove said:
Apples and oranges. That scenario doesn't fit most of the incidents that happened.jerparker20 said:
A few years back a severe storm blow through my neighborhood. Me and a neighbor were out on the sidewalk in front of my house watching the power company remove trees. A cop pulled up, rolled down the window and told us to go inside. I told him to piss off and move along, which he did. The next night, five blocks from that location, a cop from the same department shot and killed Philando Castile.tempo_n_groove said:
If you talk to cops they say the same thing. "Listen to their commands and don't escalate the situation".HughFreakingDillon said:
sadly, i don't see this changing. i see so much "if he just listened to the cops....". people just don't fucking get it. i'm afraid they never will.Bentleyspop said:It makes me sad that she has to do this...
They are miles apart from how you think.
Morale of the story, I as a white man didnt need to heed the officers command, but a black man didn’t even get the chance to make that decision.
Cops get called to a scene so they are on high alert, this cop just drove by you.
If if a cop is to the point that they are so amped up during all calls/stops then they do need to be a cop.
We'll never know. But the chance of just about any interaction ending badly for a black person is higher than for a white person. This one cop at this one time? Maybe; maybe not.
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yeah, i totally get that, but I haven't seen any instances of police brutality where there is no suspected criminal/suspicious activity. certainly not just being told to go back inside.jerparker20 said:
Again, it goes back to the point of heeding commands. I clearly did not heed the command to go inside my house. At the point I told the officer no, I was not obeying what I was told to do. According to some people, at that point the officer would have been within bounds to escalate the situation as I refused to comply. What I’m getting at is this reasoning put forth that if people just obey police all will be good. That is clearly not the case. There is also a pattern that white people more often than not are afforded more leeway in obeying the commands of police.HughFreakingDillon said:
i kind of agree with tempo here.....I don't see that interaction going differently if you were black.jerparker20 said:
Nope. This was in response to a comment that people need to heed and obey what cops tell them to do. The cop interacted with didnt tell me to go inside while driving by. He pulled up, as in up to the curb, stopped the vehicle, rolled down the window, and gave a command to go inside. I told him to piss off. I was in no way polite. He knew he was out of bounds and could not enforce what he was telling us to do, that’s why he drove off. Again, if I had been a nonwhite man, that interaction could have went sideways fast.tempo_n_groove said:
Apples and oranges. That scenario doesn't fit most of the incidents that happened.jerparker20 said:
A few years back a severe storm blow through my neighborhood. Me and a neighbor were out on the sidewalk in front of my house watching the power company remove trees. A cop pulled up, rolled down the window and told us to go inside. I told him to piss off and move along, which he did. The next night, five blocks from that location, a cop from the same department shot and killed Philando Castile.tempo_n_groove said:
If you talk to cops they say the same thing. "Listen to their commands and don't escalate the situation".HughFreakingDillon said:
sadly, i don't see this changing. i see so much "if he just listened to the cops....". people just don't fucking get it. i'm afraid they never will.Bentleyspop said:It makes me sad that she has to do this...
They are miles apart from how you think.
Morale of the story, I as a white man didnt need to heed the officers command, but a black man didn’t even get the chance to make that decision.
Cops get called to a scene so they are on high alert, this cop just drove by you.
If if a cop is to the point that they are so amped up during all calls/stops then they do need to be a cop.
i do see what you are saying, i just think this specific example is a bit of a stretch.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Cop was just driving by and not called to a scene. It is completely different.jerparker20 said:
Again, it goes back to the point of heeding commands. I clearly did not heed the command to go inside my house. At the point I told the officer no, I was not obeying what I was told to do. According to some people, at that point the officer would have been within bounds to escalate the situation as I refused to comply. What I’m getting at is this reasoning put forth that if people just obey police all will be good. That is clearly not the case. There is also a pattern that white people more often than not are afforded more leeway in obeying the commands of police.HughFreakingDillon said:
i kind of agree with tempo here.....I don't see that interaction going differently if you were black.jerparker20 said:
Nope. This was in response to a comment that people need to heed and obey what cops tell them to do. The cop interacted with didnt tell me to go inside while driving by. He pulled up, as in up to the curb, stopped the vehicle, rolled down the window, and gave a command to go inside. I told him to piss off. I was in no way polite. He knew he was out of bounds and could not enforce what he was telling us to do, that’s why he drove off. Again, if I had been a nonwhite man, that interaction could have went sideways fast.tempo_n_groove said:
Apples and oranges. That scenario doesn't fit most of the incidents that happened.jerparker20 said:
A few years back a severe storm blow through my neighborhood. Me and a neighbor were out on the sidewalk in front of my house watching the power company remove trees. A cop pulled up, rolled down the window and told us to go inside. I told him to piss off and move along, which he did. The next night, five blocks from that location, a cop from the same department shot and killed Philando Castile.tempo_n_groove said:
If you talk to cops they say the same thing. "Listen to their commands and don't escalate the situation".HughFreakingDillon said:
sadly, i don't see this changing. i see so much "if he just listened to the cops....". people just don't fucking get it. i'm afraid they never will.Bentleyspop said:It makes me sad that she has to do this...
They are miles apart from how you think.
Morale of the story, I as a white man didnt need to heed the officers command, but a black man didn’t even get the chance to make that decision.
Cops get called to a scene so they are on high alert, this cop just drove by you.
If if a cop is to the point that they are so amped up during all calls/stops then they do need to be a cop.0 -
Eric Garner was just walking down a street when cops rolled up and confronted him. They hadn’t been called to a scene then.Michael Brown was walking down a street when cops rolled up and told him to get on the sidewalk, and things escalated from there. They hadn’t been called to a scene.Stephon Clark was just standing in his driveway when cops drove by, stopped to question him, chased him through the yard and shot him. They weren’t called to a scene then either; they were in the neighbourhood looking for information on an earlier incident.So no, not apples and oranges.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0
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oftenreading said:Eric Garner was just walking down a street when cops rolled up and confronted him. They hadn’t been called to a scene then.Michael Brown was walking down a street when cops rolled up and told him to get on the sidewalk, and things escalated from there. They hadn’t been called to a scene.Stephon Clark was just standing in his driveway when cops drove by, stopped to question him, chased him through the yard and shot him. They weren’t called to a scene then either; they were in the neighbourhood looking for information on an earlier incident.So no, not apples and oranges.ferguson cops were called to a scene at the convience store...... radio call goes out and brown and his buddy were near the place walking away.result is the same of course but lets be as accurate as possible._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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Police were called by the shop owners on Garner for illegally selling cigarettes in front of their store and refusing to leave..oftenreading said:Eric Garner was just walking down a street when cops rolled up and confronted him. They hadn’t been called to a scene then.Michael Brown was walking down a street when cops rolled up and told him to get on the sidewalk, and things escalated from there. They hadn’t been called to a scene.Stephon Clark was just standing in his driveway when cops drove by, stopped to question him, chased him through the yard and shot him. They weren’t called to a scene then either; they were in the neighbourhood looking for information on an earlier incident.So no, not apples and oranges.
Brown was walking in the middle of the road and obstructing traffic when the cop (Wilson I believe his name was) stopped him.
I agree with what others have said. Night and day difference between a cop asking you to do something for your safety vs a cop being called out for suspicious or illegal activity and not cooperating.
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Information from police themselves does not say they they were called to deal with Garner. They appear to have have just come across him on the corner.mace1229 said:
Police were called by the shop owners on Garner for illegally selling cigarettes in front of their store and refusing to leave..oftenreading said:Eric Garner was just walking down a street when cops rolled up and confronted him. They hadn’t been called to a scene then.Michael Brown was walking down a street when cops rolled up and told him to get on the sidewalk, and things escalated from there. They hadn’t been called to a scene.Stephon Clark was just standing in his driveway when cops drove by, stopped to question him, chased him through the yard and shot him. They weren’t called to a scene then either; they were in the neighbourhood looking for information on an earlier incident.So no, not apples and oranges.
Brown was walking in the middle of the road and obstructing traffic when the cop (Wilson I believe his name was) stopped him.
I agree with what others have said. Night and day difference between a cop asking you to do something for your safety vs a cop being called out suspicious or illegal activity and not cooperating.And really strange how often the police get suspicious about black people’s actions.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
You’re correct, police were called to the area.mickeyrat said:oftenreading said:Eric Garner was just walking down a street when cops rolled up and confronted him. They hadn’t been called to a scene then.Michael Brown was walking down a street when cops rolled up and told him to get on the sidewalk, and things escalated from there. They hadn’t been called to a scene.Stephon Clark was just standing in his driveway when cops drove by, stopped to question him, chased him through the yard and shot him. They weren’t called to a scene then either; they were in the neighbourhood looking for information on an earlier incident.So no, not apples and oranges.ferguson cops were called to a scene at the convience store...... radio call goes out and brown and his buddy were near the place walking away.result is the same of course but lets be as accurate as possible.It’s not like they were breaking up a crime in progress when they came across Brown walking down the street, though.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
You're right. I read a few articles to refresh my memory. They had been called multiple times previously for complaints by the residents and local shop owners, but doesn't look like a call was placed that day.oftenreading said:
Information from police themselves does not say they they were called to deal with Garner. They appear to have have just come across him on the corner.mace1229 said:
Police were called by the shop owners on Garner for illegally selling cigarettes in front of their store and refusing to leave..oftenreading said:Eric Garner was just walking down a street when cops rolled up and confronted him. They hadn’t been called to a scene then.Michael Brown was walking down a street when cops rolled up and told him to get on the sidewalk, and things escalated from there. They hadn’t been called to a scene.Stephon Clark was just standing in his driveway when cops drove by, stopped to question him, chased him through the yard and shot him. They weren’t called to a scene then either; they were in the neighbourhood looking for information on an earlier incident.So no, not apples and oranges.
Brown was walking in the middle of the road and obstructing traffic when the cop (Wilson I believe his name was) stopped him.
I agree with what others have said. Night and day difference between a cop asking you to do something for your safety vs a cop being called out suspicious or illegal activity and not cooperating.And really strange how often the police get suspicious about black people’s actions.
The first police officer to approach him had responded to complaints previously and knew Garner and was approaching him for the same complaints that had previously been placed.
No one here is saying he should have been placed in a choke hold. The comment was there a difference between doing something illegal when police ask you to do something vs being asked to do something for your safety. And I would still agree with that.
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Police used 'spit hood' on Black man who died of asphyxiation: What we know about Daniel Prude's death
ROCHESTER, N.Y. – A 41-year-old Black man died in March after being forcibly restrained by police officers.
Daniel Prude, who suffered from acute mental health problems, was handcuffed naked by officers in the early morning hours of Monday, March 23. He was detained during an 11-minute confrontation involving six police officers and two emergency medical technicians.
Force was applied for several minutes to Prude's head and back as he lay on the pavement. He lost consciousness after officers cut off his breathing and was transported to a hospital, where he died a week later.
Prude's death was ruled a homicide, according to the autopsy report.
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