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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,091
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    I still think that if he pledges to remove marijuana from the schedule 1 drug list and expunge all small time marijuana offenses he will win in a landslide and cement the support of the progressives that are still having second thoughts about the effectiveness of the 2 party system
    I don't think he can do the second part as I would assume most are state charges.  I'm all about removing schedule I.
    Yeah I was wondering about the second part.  As for removing Marijuana as a schedule 1 it would be completely within his power and definitely be a gesture to the progressive fence sitterS. I think That would be enough to stop the “not a progressive enough ticket” crowd from complaining And likely guarantee that no one runs to the Green Party or writes in Bernie in large enough numbers to effect the race.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    As good as Biden and the Obama's were, that kid was the star of the convention.

    Gotta hand it to these democrats. They sure made the most of a bad situation. I liked the drive in thing after his speech last night too. It really worked out well. I'd expect a hybrid kind of convention moving forward too. 
    Better yet, find the video of Sleepy Woke Joe on the campaign trail from 2012? where he tells the kid he can do it, you can overcome it, here’s some hints and tricks and here’s my number, stay in touch. Totally genuine human spirit. Team Trump Treason would have pushed the kid out of the way and then mocked him at the next event.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Biden
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    I still think that if he pledges to remove marijuana from the schedule 1 drug list and expunge all small time marijuana offenses he will win in a landslide and cement the support of the progressives that are still having second thoughts about the effectiveness of the 2 party system
    I don't think he can do the second part as I would assume most are state charges.  I'm all about removing schedule I.
    Yeah I was wondering about the second part.  As for removing Marijuana as a schedule 1 it would be completely within his power and definitely be a gesture to the progressive fence sitterS. I think That would be enough to stop the “not a progressive enough ticket” crowd from complaining And likely guarantee that no one runs to the Green Party or writes in Bernie in large enough numbers to effect the race.
    I'm surprised to hear you say that the schedule I is really an issue for progressive voters.  States individually keep moving on marijuana and it feels like the progress is inevitable. I thought the schedule I importance was really about the research side, the fact that limited testing can occur while it's in this phase.  I'm not diminishing the importance of that, particularly for afflictions where MJ can help people, but my faith in humanity is such that I tend to think 90% of people that are pro pot are about the recreational side, not the research.  
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,454
    Biden
    Brayden Harrington....


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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,192
    Biden
    tRumpsters aren't sure how to react to Biden's speech last night....he really didn't offer up any major policy items other than universal mask wearing.

    The debates will be interesting.  Traditional debates are dead in the water.  Debating tRump is like debating your drunk uncle.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,122
    Biden
    mickeyrat said:
    Brayden Harrington....


    wow. i missed this part last night. i had it on in the background while i was taking care of a couple of work things. thanks for posting. 

    imagine trump hanging out with this kid. trump would not have helped him with his stutter. he would have been offended by the stutter. trump would have probably told him how to have services performed and how best to get out of paying for them.

    the choice between biden and trump could not be any more clear, nor any more obvious.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,122
    Biden
    i thought biden gave the speech of his life last night.

    there is no way for the gop to counter this speech. he blew up their entire narrative that he is declining.

    biden was not my first choice, maybe not even my 6th. but i am so excited and happy to vote for him. he is a decent human being, and after the indecency of trump, decency and compassion is what i think we need.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,192
    Biden
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i thought biden gave the speech of his life last night.

    there is no way for the gop to counter this speech. he blew up their entire narrative that he is declining.

    biden was not my first choice, maybe not even my 6th. but i am so excited and happy to vote for him. he is a decent human being, and after the indecency of trump, decency and compassion is what i think we need.

    agreed...a few verbal stumbles but anyone would have those.  He did great.  

    How tRumpsters can talk about Biden's cognitive decline while ignoring tRump's is beyond comprehension.  There is literally nothing that they can say about Biden that tRump isn't guilty of other than being left leaning.
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,091
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    I still think that if he pledges to remove marijuana from the schedule 1 drug list and expunge all small time marijuana offenses he will win in a landslide and cement the support of the progressives that are still having second thoughts about the effectiveness of the 2 party system
    I don't think he can do the second part as I would assume most are state charges.  I'm all about removing schedule I.
    Yeah I was wondering about the second part.  As for removing Marijuana as a schedule 1 it would be completely within his power and definitely be a gesture to the progressive fence sitterS. I think That would be enough to stop the “not a progressive enough ticket” crowd from complaining And likely guarantee that no one runs to the Green Party or writes in Bernie in large enough numbers to effect the race.
    I'm surprised to hear you say that the schedule I is really an issue for progressive voters.  States individually keep moving on marijuana and it feels like the progress is inevitable. I thought the schedule I importance was really about the research side, the fact that limited testing can occur while it's in this phase.  I'm not diminishing the importance of that, particularly for afflictions where MJ can help people, but my faith in humanity is such that I tend to think 90% of people that are pro pot are about the recreational side, not the research.  
    I agree.  The main thing about removing Marijuana from schedule 1 aside from being the gesture that progressives have been moaning for is that it also would lower associated penalties. In addition it would be like stomping on the gas of that classic car of his and moving the national conversation forward which would probably lead to decriminaliAtion and the reduction of sentences for marijuana violations much faster than just letting the states alone decide.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,122
    Biden
    Gern Blansten said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i thought biden gave the speech of his life last night.

    there is no way for the gop to counter this speech. he blew up their entire narrative that he is declining.

    biden was not my first choice, maybe not even my 6th. but i am so excited and happy to vote for him. he is a decent human being, and after the indecency of trump, decency and compassion is what i think we need.

    agreed...a few verbal stumbles but anyone would have those.  He did great.  

    How tRumpsters can talk about Biden's cognitive decline while ignoring tRump's is beyond comprehension.  There is literally nothing that they can say about Biden that tRump isn't guilty of other than being left leaning.
    and he did not once complain about the virus or that it was the chinavirus. he acknowledged that the virus is here and that we cannot get back to work and school and cannot get the economy going if we do not address and deal with the virus. this is what leaders do. 

    he said that trump failed to protect us from the spread of the virus. which he did. he denied it for months, and then did a half ass recommendation for distancing for maybe 3 weeks before saying "fuck it open everything up without restrictions."

    the contrast could not be more striking.
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,961
    Biden
    I was surprised to find this one. Chris Wallace is trending too.



    Falling down,...not staying down
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Biden
    oftenreading said:
    Apparently Trump now has a birther conspiracy about Biden. 

    Hey, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it, right? 
    Trump again being unhinged. It now appears that Trump doesn't even understand the concept of birth. I guess Fred and Mary Anne didn't do a very good job with the birds & bees discussion, or something.

    “He’d say he was born here,” Trump told listeners in Scranton. “But he left when he was like 8, 9 or 10. So he left 68 years ago, he left — a long time ago. So I view it differently. He wasn’t born here. He abandoned Scranton!”
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,091
    Biden
    jeffbr said:
    oftenreading said:
    Apparently Trump now has a birther conspiracy about Biden. 

    Hey, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it, right? 
    Trump again being unhinged. It now appears that Trump doesn't even understand the concept of birth. I guess Fred and Mary Anne didn't do a very good job with the birds & bees discussion, or something.

    “He’d say he was born here,” Trump told listeners in Scranton. “But he left when he was like 8, 9 or 10. So he left 68 years ago, he left — a long time ago. So I view it differently. He wasn’t born here. He abandoned Scranton!”
    He has to be trying to lose at this point
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  • PJPOWER
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    static111 said:
    I still think that if he pledges to remove marijuana from the schedule 1 drug list and expunge all small time marijuana offenses he will win in a landslide and cement the support of the progressives that are still having second thoughts about the effectiveness of the 2 party system
    I agree!  I’ll vote for whoever decides to legalize MJ federally.  Talk about laws rooted in racism.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Biden
    PJPOWER said:
    static111 said:
    I still think that if he pledges to remove marijuana from the schedule 1 drug list and expunge all small time marijuana offenses he will win in a landslide and cement the support of the progressives that are still having second thoughts about the effectiveness of the 2 party system
    I agree!  I’ll vote for whoever decides to legalize MJ federally.  Talk about laws rooted in racism.
    The law is rooted in industrialization.  Hemp was a threat to the timber industry. 
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    static111 said:
    I still think that if he pledges to remove marijuana from the schedule 1 drug list and expunge all small time marijuana offenses he will win in a landslide and cement the support of the progressives that are still having second thoughts about the effectiveness of the 2 party system
    I agree!  I’ll vote for whoever decides to legalize MJ federally.  Talk about laws rooted in racism.
    The law is rooted in industrialization.  Hemp was a threat to the timber industry. 
    The prohibition is rooted in ridiculousness and it’s past time to end it.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Biden
    cincybearcat said:
    brianlux said:
    cincybearcat said:
    I don’t understand why the Biden’s and ,la and doggie didn’t just get tested so they could embrace etc. it was weird. I guess trying to role model. But seemed weird. 

    That was Joe Biden at close to if not his best 

    I'll check it out on YouTube tomorrow and hopefully brush away some of my thinking about the first 5 minutes. 

    To me, conventions have almost always been a lot of nonsense anyway.  Rah, rah, lotta noise, banners, dumb TV interviewers, etc., so I shouldn't get my expectations up.

    Let's just get on with the vote and, as old Pop used to say, "Kick the bums out!"
    Find that kids speech.  He does more to show the difference between Joe Biden and Donald trump then anyone has.  And without having to explicitly say it.  It's a powerful, powerful message from that kid.  And I apologize for not knowing his name (Brandon or something?). 

    Watch the kid and think to yourself:
    1) What would Biden's face look like while listening...what about trumps?
    2) If this kid said something that Biden disagreed with, how would biden respond? ...now think trump?

    Marvelous!  Found it here:

    What courage! 

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Biden
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i thought biden gave the speech of his life last night.

    there is no way for the gop to counter this speech. he blew up their entire narrative that he is declining.

    biden was not my first choice, maybe not even my 6th. but i am so excited and happy to vote for him. he is a decent human being, and after the indecency of trump, decency and compassion is what i think we need.

    I'm looking forward to watching it this afternoon when I get done with some work I have to do.  I've heard nothing but praise for Biden's speech.  Good to know! 
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    static111 said:
    I still think that if he pledges to remove marijuana from the schedule 1 drug list and expunge all small time marijuana offenses he will win in a landslide and cement the support of the progressives that are still having second thoughts about the effectiveness of the 2 party system
    I agree!  I’ll vote for whoever decides to legalize MJ federally.  Talk about laws rooted in racism.
    The law is rooted in industrialization.  Hemp was a threat to the timber industry. 
    Probably, but it's evolution, enforcement, and punishment have been rooted in racism.
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  • mrussel1
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    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    static111 said:
    I still think that if he pledges to remove marijuana from the schedule 1 drug list and expunge all small time marijuana offenses he will win in a landslide and cement the support of the progressives that are still having second thoughts about the effectiveness of the 2 party system
    I agree!  I’ll vote for whoever decides to legalize MJ federally.  Talk about laws rooted in racism.
    The law is rooted in industrialization.  Hemp was a threat to the timber industry. 
    Probably, but it's evolution, enforcement, and punishment have been rooted in racism.
    Yes,  it has disproportionately affected minorities,  but racism was not behind the original intent. 

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