Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Biden
    73 former national security officials from Reagan, Bush, Bush jr, and Trump admins have endorsed Biden, and wrote a pretty scathing list of reasons why: A STATEMENT BY FORMER REPUBLICAN NATIONAL SECURITY OFFICIALS
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,391
    jeffbr said:
    73 former national security officials from Reagan, Bush, Bush jr, and Trump admins have endorsed Biden, and wrote a pretty scathing list of reasons why: A STATEMENT BY FORMER REPUBLICAN NATIONAL SECURITY OFFICIALS
    Are any of their grievances untrue? I'd love for a Team Trump Treason supporter to defend those allegations. Oh where oh where art thou, BS?
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,847
    Biden
    Julia Louis-Dreyfus with some weird awful standup act as host of dnc. 
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,847
    Biden
    Mostly a miss tonight for me. Starting to make a turn with former surgeon general and Senator Tammy Baldwin. 
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Biden
    Mostly a miss tonight for me. Starting to make a turn with former surgeon general and Senator Tammy Baldwin. 

    Like you, I kind of wish there was a separate DNC thread but since there isn't, I'll post here.

    I hear that Andrew Yang was going to speak tonight so I found a link that works on my slow ISP and was able to watch, hooray!

    Yang was pretty good- OK, decent start.

    But wait... what's this?  Some ditzy actor making lame-ass jokes?  I thought we were serious about winning this thing.  WTF?

    And then it gets worse!  Some kid getting his face wiped the way an elephant ass might get wiped, and then he cites the pledge of allegiance.  Are you kidding me?

    And then a most wretched rendition of that horrid song... you know the one.  Somebody give me a bucket!

    If this lame approach is the best the DNC can do well, then, well... oh fuck it.  I have a margarita waiting for me.  Off goes the stupid TV show! 
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,600
    Biden
    JLD was terrible to start. Felt like she got better as the night went on but I may have just tuned her out.

    I enjoyed Booker and the Beaten Bunch. I really did like a bunch of these candidates this time around.

    On the other hand...Mike Bloomberg was my cue to take the dog out for a walk.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,847
    Biden
    The kid with a stutter was awesome and probably saved this night.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    Biden
    Hell of a speech! Kudos to Trump for lowering expectations, but man I thought he knocked this way out of the park. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,391
    Sleepy Woke Joe is clearly demented and his hair was messy, his liver spots were too pronounced, his nose looks funny and his chin dimple was off center. I can’t look at him for four years.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,847
    Biden
    I don’t understand why the Biden’s and ,la and doggie didn’t just get tested so they could embrace etc. it was weird. I guess trying to role model. But seemed weird. 

    That was Joe Biden at close to if not his best 
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,600
    Biden
    Voting for Joe is going to feel good.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,391
    Do I hear MMJ?
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Biden
    I don’t understand why the Biden’s and ,la and doggie didn’t just get tested so they could embrace etc. it was weird. I guess trying to role model. But seemed weird. 

    That was Joe Biden at close to if not his best 
    I think you're right; leading by example.  I'm sure they are tested almost daily at this point. 
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,110
    Biden
    I still think that if he pledges to remove marijuana from the schedule 1 drug list and expunge all small time marijuana offenses he will win in a landslide and cement the support of the progressives that are still having second thoughts about the effectiveness of the 2 party system
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    edited August 2020
    Apparently Trump now has a birther conspiracy about Biden. 

    Hey, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it, right? 
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,267
    Biden
    Great job Joe... Exactly what we needed 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Biden
    static111 said:
    I still think that if he pledges to remove marijuana from the schedule 1 drug list and expunge all small time marijuana offenses he will win in a landslide and cement the support of the progressives that are still having second thoughts about the effectiveness of the 2 party system
    I don't think he can do the second part as I would assume most are state charges.  I'm all about removing schedule I.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Biden
    I don’t understand why the Biden’s and ,la and doggie didn’t just get tested so they could embrace etc. it was weird. I guess trying to role model. But seemed weird. 

    That was Joe Biden at close to if not his best 

    I'll check it out on YouTube tomorrow and hopefully brush away some of my thinking about the first 5 minutes. 

    To me, conventions have almost always been a lot of nonsense anyway.  Rah, rah, lotta noise, banners, dumb TV interviewers, etc., so I shouldn't get my expectations up.

    Let's just get on with the vote and, as old Pop used to say, "Kick the bums out!"
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,847
    Biden
    brianlux said:
    I don’t understand why the Biden’s and ,la and doggie didn’t just get tested so they could embrace etc. it was weird. I guess trying to role model. But seemed weird. 

    That was Joe Biden at close to if not his best 

    I'll check it out on YouTube tomorrow and hopefully brush away some of my thinking about the first 5 minutes. 

    To me, conventions have almost always been a lot of nonsense anyway.  Rah, rah, lotta noise, banners, dumb TV interviewers, etc., so I shouldn't get my expectations up.

    Let's just get on with the vote and, as old Pop used to say, "Kick the bums out!"
    Find that kids speech.  He does more to show the difference between Joe Biden and Donald trump then anyone has.  And without having to explicitly say it.  It's a powerful, powerful message from that kid.  And I apologize for not knowing his name (Brandon or something?). 

    Watch the kid and think to yourself:
    1) What would Biden's face look like while listening...what about trumps?
    2) If this kid said something that Biden disagreed with, how would biden respond? ...now think trump?
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    Biden
    ^
    As good as Biden and the Obama's were, that kid was the star of the convention.

    Gotta hand it to these democrats. They sure made the most of a bad situation. I liked the drive in thing after his speech last night too. It really worked out well. I'd expect a hybrid kind of convention moving forward too. 
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