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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Poncier said:
    The decision to strive for herd immunity in Sweden seems to have thrown the country into a sort of spiritual chaos.
    Oh my goodness. I see what you have done there. 
    Oh MY goodness.

    Well done, Poncier. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    Hey folks, please check out my face mask washing thread on AET.  I'm seriously concerned about this. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,235
    Pissing on the floor, now farts. What’s next? Shooting people?

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  • hedonist
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    Pissing on the floor, now farts. What’s next? Shooting people?

    https://twitter.com/pimpcessa_/status/1285420318803152896
    I love when the lowest (un)common denominators shine so brightly. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,891
    pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:
    The decision to strive for herd immunity in Sweden seems to have thrown the country into a sort of spiritual chaos.
    now that is some classic phrasing there.  A++

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,235
    Someone should post a sign on their business door that says, “Take everything off but the mask,” just to see WTF would happen. Where’s Sacha Baron Cohen when you need him?
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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,906

    I don't think the jury is out yet.   If a vaccine takes longer than expected, or doesn't work out.   They could still be the horse that pulls ahead at the end.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    Here in West Palm Beach FL it's been 13 days now since I took a Covid test. Have I gotten a call, HELL NO! It's basically useless just like our effing governor.

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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,420
    Got probed Saturday morning 
    Got my negative results last night 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,433
    edited July 2020
    was informed of the 2nd positive test in a week at work. refusal to state where in the building. only that I wouldn't have had contact. BUT it probable to have had contact with someone who did have contact.

    I have lost all confidence in my local management. This hasnt been taken seriously. My county is under both a state mandate and more stringent county level mandate about masks and other measures.
    There is not one item posted in our building about covid and best practices. Our other lications within the state are also located in renewed hotspots. Mandatory masks or dont enter the building.

    Will see what they do today when I go in tonight. if nothing has changed, call me whistleblower....

    I am one of a few that wears one in the building......

    here it is.

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    mickeyrat said:
    was informed of the 2nd positive test in a week at work. refusal to state where in the building. only that I wouldn't have had contact. BUT it probable to have had contact with someone who did have contact.

    I have lost all confidence in my local management. This hasnt been taken seriously. My county is under both a state mandate and more stringent county level mandate about masks and other measures.
    There is not one item posted in our building about covid and best practices. Our other lications within the state are also located in renewed hotspots. Mandatory masks or dont enter the building.

    Will see what they do today when I go in tonight. if nothing has changed, call me whistleblower....

    I am one of a few that wears one in the building......

    here it is.

    Not good. Even simple stuff like mandatory masks are important. Cleaning...well we do it and it doesn’t hurt but I’m not sure how beneficial it really is.

    Its ridiculous for a business to not take it seriously in order to protect their employees.

    I will say Re:positive cases. They have to follow some strict laws about what can be shared. And as long as they are notifying those that spent >15 min within 6 feet of these people, they are doing their job in that regard.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,433
    mickeyrat said:
    was informed of the 2nd positive test in a week at work. refusal to state where in the building. only that I wouldn't have had contact. BUT it probable to have had contact with someone who did have contact.

    I have lost all confidence in my local management. This hasnt been taken seriously. My county is under both a state mandate and more stringent county level mandate about masks and other measures.
    There is not one item posted in our building about covid and best practices. Our other lications within the state are also located in renewed hotspots. Mandatory masks or dont enter the building.

    Will see what they do today when I go in tonight. if nothing has changed, call me whistleblower....

    I am one of a few that wears one in the building......

    here it is.

    Not good. Even simple stuff like mandatory masks are important. Cleaning...well we do it and it doesn’t hurt but I’m not sure how beneficial it really is.

    Its ridiculous for a business to not take it seriously in order to protect their employees.

    I will say Re:positive cases. They have to follow some strict laws about what can be shared. And as long as they are notifying those that spent >15 min within 6 feet of these people, they are doing their job in that regard.
    I fully understand not naming. but every employee clocks in and out at the sole touch screen in the drivers room.  guessing 70 or so between 2 shifts? so the likelyhood I been near someone who has for sure been in contact is pretty high imo.
    now there are surface cleaning measures being done. since the beginning. but its an airborne thing......

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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,891
    Zod said:

    I don't think the jury is out yet.   If a vaccine takes longer than expected, or doesn't work out.   They could still be the horse that pulls ahead at the end.


    Sweden is 5th most in the world for per capita deaths. They are probably going to catch Italy for 4th. Remember how bad Italy was in the spring?

    there is a chance the US can catch Sweden in this category. Still a ways to go. But the US probably has fewer precautions currently than Sweden so not sure that would prove Swedens goal of staying open with limited safety measures is best, because the US basically said hey let’s open up like Sweden.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,891
    edited July 2020
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    was informed of the 2nd positive test in a week at work. refusal to state where in the building. only that I wouldn't have had contact. BUT it probable to have had contact with someone who did have contact.

    I have lost all confidence in my local management. This hasnt been taken seriously. My county is under both a state mandate and more stringent county level mandate about masks and other measures.
    There is not one item posted in our building about covid and best practices. Our other lications within the state are also located in renewed hotspots. Mandatory masks or dont enter the building.

    Will see what they do today when I go in tonight. if nothing has changed, call me whistleblower....

    I am one of a few that wears one in the building......

    here it is.

    Not good. Even simple stuff like mandatory masks are important. Cleaning...well we do it and it doesn’t hurt but I’m not sure how beneficial it really is.

    Its ridiculous for a business to not take it seriously in order to protect their employees.

    I will say Re:positive cases. They have to follow some strict laws about what can be shared. And as long as they are notifying those that spent >15 min within 6 feet of these people, they are doing their job in that regard.
    I fully understand not naming. but every employee clocks in and out at the sole touch screen in the drivers room.  guessing 70 or so between 2 shifts? so the likelyhood I been near someone who has for sure been in contact is pretty high imo.
    now there are surface cleaning measures being done. since the beginning. but its an airborne thing......



    I hope it gets better there soon. Eventually employees somewhere will sue employers for not maintaining a safe workplace?
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    was informed of the 2nd positive test in a week at work. refusal to state where in the building. only that I wouldn't have had contact. BUT it probable to have had contact with someone who did have contact.

    I have lost all confidence in my local management. This hasnt been taken seriously. My county is under both a state mandate and more stringent county level mandate about masks and other measures.
    There is not one item posted in our building about covid and best practices. Our other lications within the state are also located in renewed hotspots. Mandatory masks or dont enter the building.

    Will see what they do today when I go in tonight. if nothing has changed, call me whistleblower....

    I am one of a few that wears one in the building......

    here it is.

    Not good. Even simple stuff like mandatory masks are important. Cleaning...well we do it and it doesn’t hurt but I’m not sure how beneficial it really is.

    Its ridiculous for a business to not take it seriously in order to protect their employees.

    I will say Re:positive cases. They have to follow some strict laws about what can be shared. And as long as they are notifying those that spent >15 min within 6 feet of these people, they are doing their job in that regard.
    I fully understand not naming. but every employee clocks in and out at the sole touch screen in the drivers room.  guessing 70 or so between 2 shifts? so the likelyhood I been near someone who has for sure been in contact is pretty high imo.
    now there are surface cleaning measures being done. since the beginning. but its an airborne thing......

    I understand your concern.  But the time it takes to clock in and out would not be considered 'contact' by the medical professionals.  

    Yeah the cleaning in my opinion from what I have read, etc is ok, but not really that necessary if you wash your hands.  Now, masks....should be mandatory at your workplace (in my opinion).  
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    was informed of the 2nd positive test in a week at work. refusal to state where in the building. only that I wouldn't have had contact. BUT it probable to have had contact with someone who did have contact.

    I have lost all confidence in my local management. This hasnt been taken seriously. My county is under both a state mandate and more stringent county level mandate about masks and other measures.
    There is not one item posted in our building about covid and best practices. Our other lications within the state are also located in renewed hotspots. Mandatory masks or dont enter the building.

    Will see what they do today when I go in tonight. if nothing has changed, call me whistleblower....

    I am one of a few that wears one in the building......

    here it is.

    Not good. Even simple stuff like mandatory masks are important. Cleaning...well we do it and it doesn’t hurt but I’m not sure how beneficial it really is.

    Its ridiculous for a business to not take it seriously in order to protect their employees.

    I will say Re:positive cases. They have to follow some strict laws about what can be shared. And as long as they are notifying those that spent >15 min within 6 feet of these people, they are doing their job in that regard.
    I fully understand not naming. but every employee clocks in and out at the sole touch screen in the drivers room.  guessing 70 or so between 2 shifts? so the likelyhood I been near someone who has for sure been in contact is pretty high imo.
    now there are surface cleaning measures being done. since the beginning. but its an airborne thing......



    I hope it gets better there soon. Eventually employees somewhere will sue employers for not maintaining a safe workplace?
    This.
    I do not understand an employer that wouldn't try to prevent their employees against a safety risk.  If it was a machine, they wouldn't just run without the guarding....unless they are an awful employer.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    The  cleaning is absolutely essential...

    peoples fluid from mouth and nose often end up on surfaces where people eat m, The sinks ... etc.


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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,235
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    was informed of the 2nd positive test in a week at work. refusal to state where in the building. only that I wouldn't have had contact. BUT it probable to have had contact with someone who did have contact.

    I have lost all confidence in my local management. This hasnt been taken seriously. My county is under both a state mandate and more stringent county level mandate about masks and other measures.
    There is not one item posted in our building about covid and best practices. Our other lications within the state are also located in renewed hotspots. Mandatory masks or dont enter the building.

    Will see what they do today when I go in tonight. if nothing has changed, call me whistleblower....

    I am one of a few that wears one in the building......

    here it is.

    Not good. Even simple stuff like mandatory masks are important. Cleaning...well we do it and it doesn’t hurt but I’m not sure how beneficial it really is.

    Its ridiculous for a business to not take it seriously in order to protect their employees.

    I will say Re:positive cases. They have to follow some strict laws about what can be shared. And as long as they are notifying those that spent >15 min within 6 feet of these people, they are doing their job in that regard.
    I fully understand not naming. but every employee clocks in and out at the sole touch screen in the drivers room.  guessing 70 or so between 2 shifts? so the likelyhood I been near someone who has for sure been in contact is pretty high imo.
    now there are surface cleaning measures being done. since the beginning. but its an airborne thing......



    I hope it gets better there soon. Eventually employees somewhere will sue employers for not maintaining a safe workplace?
    Repubs are pushing for exemptions from liability and some already exist. However, it appears it'll be a state issue to contend with. Not sure how it impacts Mickey but I'm guessing that because trucking was deemed essential, his company is exempt from liability. That said, they may need to abide by certain policies/procedures. Regardless, its shitty of them not to do the right thing as it relates to covid and precautions (mandate wearing masks, frequent cleaning, enforce and mandate social distancing, notification if someone tests positive and encourage or arrange for testing of employees with some kind of paid time off for quarantining, if required.

    https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/legal-and-compliance/state-and-local-updates/pages/states-grant-businesses-immunity-from-coronavirus-lawsuits.aspx

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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    was informed of the 2nd positive test in a week at work. refusal to state where in the building. only that I wouldn't have had contact. BUT it probable to have had contact with someone who did have contact.

    I have lost all confidence in my local management. This hasnt been taken seriously. My county is under both a state mandate and more stringent county level mandate about masks and other measures.
    There is not one item posted in our building about covid and best practices. Our other lications within the state are also located in renewed hotspots. Mandatory masks or dont enter the building.

    Will see what they do today when I go in tonight. if nothing has changed, call me whistleblower....

    I am one of a few that wears one in the building......

    here it is.

    Not good. Even simple stuff like mandatory masks are important. Cleaning...well we do it and it doesn’t hurt but I’m not sure how beneficial it really is.

    Its ridiculous for a business to not take it seriously in order to protect their employees.

    I will say Re:positive cases. They have to follow some strict laws about what can be shared. And as long as they are notifying those that spent >15 min within 6 feet of these people, they are doing their job in that regard.
    I fully understand not naming. but every employee clocks in and out at the sole touch screen in the drivers room.  guessing 70 or so between 2 shifts? so the likelyhood I been near someone who has for sure been in contact is pretty high imo.
    now there are surface cleaning measures being done. since the beginning. but its an airborne thing......

    I understand your concern.  But the time it takes to clock in and out would not be considered 'contact' by the medical professionals.  

    Yeah the cleaning in my opinion from what I have read, etc is ok, but not really that necessary if you wash your hands.  Now, masks....should be mandatory at your workplace (in my opinion).  

    Cleaning is important but not the most important of the measures - the three most important are frequent hand washing, consistent mask wearing, and social distancing. 

    Proper cleaning is obviously not a bad thing but, given the risk for droplets and aerosols, it just can't be done frequently enough to actually keep the surfaces clean, so it's on the individual to wash their hands after any time you've touched a common object.
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