The coronavirus

what dreams · June 2020

Ledbetterman10 said:

what dreams said:

Unfortunately I'm related by marriage to a nurse who believes the virus was unleashed on purpose by China in cahoots with Fauci and Gates who have a financial stake in a vaccine lab. A Nurse! She thinks the shutdown was a liberal conspiracy to wreck the economy before the election. So, again unfortunately, not all healthcare workers are saints on this. When I announced to the family last weekend that they need to come up with a Plan B to care for my elderly mom in the event I get sick when schools reopen, she was the first to dismiss it. "I work in healthcare, and I haven't gotten sick." None of my three brothers spoke up, in my mother's presence. Okay, I realized, my brothers are more okay with mother dying than with stepping up and caring for her when I can't. That's how fucked up this world has become.

This is sad to hear. Not that the nurse buys into conspiracy-theories (some people are just hopeless), but the whole situation puts you in a tough spot. You should try to talk to your brothers without the nurse present (unless one of them is married to her), and try show them different perspectives.

Well, the story is on their trusted Fox News, so they will at least play the video. The reality, I suspect, is that they don't want to be bothered, as is the case of many Americans whom we have heard dismiss the elderly in public these past months. I suspect that if we were to take an anonymous poll, the vast majority of Americans feel the same way. They just don't want their parents hear them say it. This virus has opened up a lot of shocking truths about what we value as a society, that's for sure.

DewieCox · June 2020

brianlux said:

DewieCox said:

brianlux said:

At the risk of coming across as offensive to some of our fellow members here, it really bugs me that some people here are saying the coronavirus is a hoax. The reasons that bugs me are as follows:

We have a close extended family member who is smarter than the lot of us put together who works in the medical field and is putting her health and well being on the line every day she works at Stanford Hospital. During the first weeks of the outbreak, she was working insane hours. My godchildren's mother has been a professional in the medical for quite a long time and would laugh if someone told her a hoax. And then she would straighten them out in no uncertain terms. I have others good friends as well as we have members here who are hard at work caring for patients with the virus.

I volunteered for 1,000 hours at a Health Library not too many years ago. We had a great deal of respect for the research at Johns Hopkins and relied on the expertise frequently. They are not the kind of organization that would pull a stunt like backing a virus hoax. No way in hell.

And more: Michael T. Osterholm, an American infectious disease epidemiologist, regents professor, and director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota, has done extensive research regarding this virus. The man is brilliant, well regarded in his field, and has followed this epidemic very closely from the get go. Any one calling this virus a hoax would do well to listen to any number of interviews with him and read his work. And he is not tied to politicians!

The idea that this is a hoax is as far fetched as anything I've read in some time. Yes, I believe in being skeptical about EVERYTHING, but when you have the brightest medical people and scientists from all over the world working on studying the disease and working to find a cure or vaccine, it's pretty hard to take anyone seriously who goes on about this being a hoax yet supplies zero verifiable evidence that it is a hoax.

That's all I've got to say other than that I'm really disappointed in a few people here who are venting about this being a hoax and having absolutely nothing to back that up with. You're better than that.

Offend away

I didn't know you were one that thought COVID-19 is a hoax. Surprising. If you thought I meant merely to offend, I guess my words were wasted on you.

Absolutely not bud. I’m saying if people that think it’s a hoax are offended by your post, you shouldn’t give it a second thought. Hoaxers aren’t worried about offending those with real shit at stake andI don’t see kid gloves breaking down such willful ignorance. Total respect for the way you’ve expressed your experience

brianlux · June 2020

DewieCox said:

brianlux said:

DewieCox said:

brianlux said:

At the risk of coming across as offensive to some of our fellow members here, it really bugs me that some people here are saying the coronavirus is a hoax. The reasons that bugs me are as follows:

We have a close extended family member who is smarter than the lot of us put together who works in the medical field and is putting her health and well being on the line every day she works at Stanford Hospital. During the first weeks of the outbreak, she was working insane hours. My godchildren's mother has been a professional in the medical for quite a long time and would laugh if someone told her a hoax. And then she would straighten them out in no uncertain terms. I have others good friends as well as we have members here who are hard at work caring for patients with the virus.

I volunteered for 1,000 hours at a Health Library not too many years ago. We had a great deal of respect for the research at Johns Hopkins and relied on the expertise frequently. They are not the kind of organization that would pull a stunt like backing a virus hoax. No way in hell.

And more: Michael T. Osterholm, an American infectious disease epidemiologist, regents professor, and director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota, has done extensive research regarding this virus. The man is brilliant, well regarded in his field, and has followed this epidemic very closely from the get go. Any one calling this virus a hoax would do well to listen to any number of interviews with him and read his work. And he is not tied to politicians!

The idea that this is a hoax is as far fetched as anything I've read in some time. Yes, I believe in being skeptical about EVERYTHING, but when you have the brightest medical people and scientists from all over the world working on studying the disease and working to find a cure or vaccine, it's pretty hard to take anyone seriously who goes on about this being a hoax yet supplies zero verifiable evidence that it is a hoax.

That's all I've got to say other than that I'm really disappointed in a few people here who are venting about this being a hoax and having absolutely nothing to back that up with. You're better than that.

Offend away

I didn't know you were one that thought COVID-19 is a hoax. Surprising. If you thought I meant merely to offend, I guess my words were wasted on you.

Absolutely not bud. I’m saying if people that think it’s a hoax are offended by your post, you shouldn’t give it a second thought. Hoaxers aren’t worried about offending those with real shit at stake andI don’t see kid gloves breaking down such willful ignorance. Total respect for the way you’ve expressed your experience

Thank you for clarifying, Dewie! Sorry I'm a bit dense sometimes, LOL.

mickeyrat · June 2020

sometimes he says....

brianlux · June 2020

mickeyrat said:

sometimes he says....

Hey buddy, ya know, somethings that are dense are quite good!

Chocolate fudge cake 45 - rich dense moorish Needs raspberries

josevolution · June 2020

https://apple.news/AhLag0bdmQPGm22ZC3vY4Ig
Screw these young idiots I have no pitty for anyone that just dismisses this virus f you and all your friends , you get what you deserve for being a fool !

Ledbetterman10 · June 2020

josevolution said:

https://apple.news/AhLag0bdmQPGm22ZC3vY4Ig
Screw these young idiots I have no pitty for anyone that just dismisses this virus f you and all your friends , you get what you deserve for being a fool !

How are they dismissing it when they're admitting their mistake and are trying to warn others? With all the reopenings, coupled with thousands of people in the streets for demonstrations and Trump having a rally, there's probably a lot of people that think the virus isn't that big a deal anymore. These "young idiot fools that you have no pity for" probably thought that, and now they're trying to say "don't make the same mistake we did."

static111 · June 2020

josevolution said:

https://apple.news/AhLag0bdmQPGm22ZC3vY4Ig
Screw these young idiots I have no pitty for anyone that just dismisses this virus f you and all your friends , you get what you deserve for being a fool !

Let’s not forget the governor said it was safe enough to open bars for business just like here in Texas where we are having a spike. Strong leadership could have prevented the new rise in cases nationwide, but until it hits the R voting base hard I doubt anything will be done.

josevolution · June 2020

Ledbetterman10 said:

josevolution said:

https://apple.news/AhLag0bdmQPGm22ZC3vY4Ig
Screw these young idiots I have no pitty for anyone that just dismisses this virus f you and all your friends , you get what you deserve for being a fool !

How are they dismissing it when they're admitting their mistake and are trying to warn others? With all the reopenings, coupled with thousands of people in the streets for demonstrations and Trump having a rally, there's probably a lot of people that think the virus isn't that big a deal anymore. These "young idiot fools that you have no pity for" probably thought that, and now they're trying to say "don't make the same mistake we did."

They dismissed all the warning bells going off in every state that has gone through this like here in NY , they are fools they didn’t heed the warnings, they listened to their racist governor f’em ..

OnWis97 · June 2020

Ledbetterman10 said:

josevolution said:

https://apple.news/AhLag0bdmQPGm22ZC3vY4Ig
Screw these young idiots I have no pitty for anyone that just dismisses this virus f you and all your friends , you get what you deserve for being a fool !

How are they dismissing it when they're admitting their mistake and are trying to warn others? With all the reopenings, coupled with thousands of people in the streets for demonstrations and Trump having a rally, there's probably a lot of people that think the virus isn't that big a deal anymore. These "young idiot fools that you have no pity for" probably thought that, and now they're trying to say "don't make the same mistake we did."

They dismissed it when it mattered...

That said, stories like this are important. There are former truthers out there that are telling the rest of us to take it seriously. The unfortunate part? Most of the people who just want everything opened will just say "I bet they all survive." That's true because of their age, but ignores the likely exponential spread each has had. Not to mention, are any of them going to have respiratory issues for life? We talk about "survival" but rarely about quality of life.

Edit: But I do appreciate them saying "I was wrong." So few people can do that anymore. It's a strength; not a weakness.

cincybearcat · June 2020

static111 said:

josevolution said:

https://apple.news/AhLag0bdmQPGm22ZC3vY4Ig
Screw these young idiots I have no pitty for anyone that just dismisses this virus f you and all your friends , you get what you deserve for being a fool !

Let’s not forget the governor said it was safe enough to open bars for business just like here in Texas where we are having a spike. Strong leadership could have prevented the new rise in cases nationwide, but until it hits the R voting base hard I doubt anything will be done.

Let's not forget that we had almost no one talking Coronavirus during all the protests. Too scared to mention the truth and be seen as the opposition I guess. But in reality, from the video I saw, a lot of people at risk and not protecting themselves or others. Certainly some were. But in regards to the pandemic, it was a catastrophic series of events. At least it was outside......

stuckinline · June 2020

Nothing to see here, its just a hoax:

https://www.cleveland.com/coronavirus/2020/06/us-coronavirus-death-toll-surpasses-american-military-casualties-from-world-war-i.html

static111 · June 2020

cincybearcat said:

static111 said:

josevolution said:

https://apple.news/AhLag0bdmQPGm22ZC3vY4Ig
Screw these young idiots I have no pitty for anyone that just dismisses this virus f you and all your friends , you get what you deserve for being a fool !

Let’s not forget the governor said it was safe enough to open bars for business just like here in Texas where we are having a spike. Strong leadership could have prevented the new rise in cases nationwide, but until it hits the R voting base hard I doubt anything will be done.

Let's not forget that we had almost no one talking Coronavirus during all the protests. Too scared to mention the truth and be seen as the opposition I guess. But in reality, from the video I saw, a lot of people at risk and not protecting themselves or others. Certainly some were. But in regards to the pandemic, it was a catastrophic series of events. At least it was outside......

I think the people protesting were aware of the risks posed by corona. Most wore masks and used hand sanitizers. Standing up for what is right and what you believe in is a far cry from binge drinking at a bar.

mrussel1 · June 2020

static111 said:

cincybearcat said:

static111 said:

josevolution said:

https://apple.news/AhLag0bdmQPGm22ZC3vY4Ig
Screw these young idiots I have no pitty for anyone that just dismisses this virus f you and all your friends , you get what you deserve for being a fool !

Let’s not forget the governor said it was safe enough to open bars for business just like here in Texas where we are having a spike. Strong leadership could have prevented the new rise in cases nationwide, but until it hits the R voting base hard I doubt anything will be done.

Let's not forget that we had almost no one talking Coronavirus during all the protests. Too scared to mention the truth and be seen as the opposition I guess. But in reality, from the video I saw, a lot of people at risk and not protecting themselves or others. Certainly some were. But in regards to the pandemic, it was a catastrophic series of events. At least it was outside......

I think the people protesting were aware of the risks posed by corona. Most wore masks and used hand sanitizers. Standing up for what is right and what you believe in is a far cry from binge drinking at a bar.

100% agree with this. Here in VA, most protesters were masked up. It was the cops who weren't. And yes, what you are doing while out is an important consideration. Maybe that's not 'freedom', but it's common sense.

OnWis97 · June 2020

static111 said:

cincybearcat said:

static111 said:

josevolution said:

https://apple.news/AhLag0bdmQPGm22ZC3vY4Ig
Screw these young idiots I have no pitty for anyone that just dismisses this virus f you and all your friends , you get what you deserve for being a fool !

Let’s not forget the governor said it was safe enough to open bars for business just like here in Texas where we are having a spike. Strong leadership could have prevented the new rise in cases nationwide, but until it hits the R voting base hard I doubt anything will be done.

Let's not forget that we had almost no one talking Coronavirus during all the protests. Too scared to mention the truth and be seen as the opposition I guess. But in reality, from the video I saw, a lot of people at risk and not protecting themselves or others. Certainly some were. But in regards to the pandemic, it was a catastrophic series of events. At least it was outside......

I think the people protesting were aware of the risks posed by corona. Most wore masks and used hand sanitizers. Standing up for what is right and what you believe in is a far cry from binge drinking at a bar.

Call me a bad ally, but I did not participate in protests because of the Virus.

cincybearcat · June 2020

static111 said:

cincybearcat said:

static111 said:

josevolution said:

https://apple.news/AhLag0bdmQPGm22ZC3vY4Ig
Screw these young idiots I have no pitty for anyone that just dismisses this virus f you and all your friends , you get what you deserve for being a fool !

Let’s not forget the governor said it was safe enough to open bars for business just like here in Texas where we are having a spike. Strong leadership could have prevented the new rise in cases nationwide, but until it hits the R voting base hard I doubt anything will be done.

Let's not forget that we had almost no one talking Coronavirus during all the protests. Too scared to mention the truth and be seen as the opposition I guess. But in reality, from the video I saw, a lot of people at risk and not protecting themselves or others. Certainly some were. But in regards to the pandemic, it was a catastrophic series of events. At least it was outside......

I think the people protesting were aware of the risks posed by corona. Most wore masks and used hand sanitizers. Standing up for what is right and what you believe in is a far cry from binge drinking at a bar.

It’s also a much larger size group all over. But sure the reasons for being out are very different. Corona don’t care

dignin · June 2020

cincybearcat said:

static111 said:

cincybearcat said:

static111 said:

josevolution said:

https://apple.news/AhLag0bdmQPGm22ZC3vY4Ig
Screw these young idiots I have no pitty for anyone that just dismisses this virus f you and all your friends , you get what you deserve for being a fool !

Let’s not forget the governor said it was safe enough to open bars for business just like here in Texas where we are having a spike. Strong leadership could have prevented the new rise in cases nationwide, but until it hits the R voting base hard I doubt anything will be done.

Let's not forget that we had almost no one talking Coronavirus during all the protests. Too scared to mention the truth and be seen as the opposition I guess. But in reality, from the video I saw, a lot of people at risk and not protecting themselves or others. Certainly some were. But in regards to the pandemic, it was a catastrophic series of events. At least it was outside......

I think the people protesting were aware of the risks posed by corona. Most wore masks and used hand sanitizers. Standing up for what is right and what you believe in is a far cry from binge drinking at a bar.

It’s also a much larger size group all over. But sure the reasons for being out are very different. Corona don’t care

Corona does care whether you are outside or inside though. It seems that makes a huge difference from everything I have read.

Time will tell.

josevolution · June 2020

Shit at this point black folks are dying from Corona & police brutality, I don’t blame them at all for marching for this cause they don’t have any other recourse but to march ..but to go out and mingle & drink in a bar full of non believers is idiotic..

OnWis97 · June 2020

Big cities like NYC and Seattle tend to lean left. Then you had the protestors.

But the virus is starting to hit Red America a bit harder. Places like Florida, Texas, and Arizona are seeing big numbers. It'll be interesting to see whether this impacts the tone of either the administration or the general lib-owning right. Particularly if there's a spike in Oklahoma in a couple of weeks.

Halifax2TheMax · June 2020

OnWis97 said:

Big cities like NYC and Seattle tend to lean left. Then you had the protestors.

But the virus is starting to hit Red America a bit harder. Places like Florida, Texas, and Arizona are seeing big numbers. It'll be interesting to see whether this impacts the tone of either the administration or the general lib-owning right. Particularly if there's a spike in Oklahoma in a couple of weeks.

Nah, it’s gods will. Or wrath for the Supreme Court decision the other day.

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