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  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    mcgruff10 said:
    54th mass regiment monument in Boston  spray painted and damaged?  Ffs know your history.  I support change but this type of action does not help your cause.  
    I attended a professional development Zoom with Baruti Kafele last week (June 9-10, before this incident), and he asked the question -- how many of these young protesters even know their history? Many of them don't because our previously content-rich curriculums, determined by teachers not corporations, have been decimated by the culture wars and the era of No Child Left Behind where teaching "skills" is more important than teaching content. He advised us all that good teachers know how to breathe life in these dead, skills-based curriculums. I have never been more fired up to help my students understand their world -- if I ever get them back in a classroom.
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,110
    what dreams said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    54th mass regiment monument in Boston  spray painted and damaged?  Ffs know your history.  I support change but this type of action does not help your cause.  
    I attended a professional development Zoom with Baruti Kafele last week (June 9-10, before this incident), and he asked the question -- how many of these young protesters even know their history? Many of them don't because our previously content-rich curriculums, determined by teachers not corporations, have been decimated by the culture wars and the era of No Child Left Behind where teaching "skills" is more important than teaching content. He advised us all that good teachers know how to breathe life in these dead, skills-based curriculums. I have never been more fired up to help my students understand their world -- if I ever get them back in a classroom.
    I was so lucky to have great history teachers before teaching to the test was doubled down. 
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,494
    Want more fuel on the fire?
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/15/oluwatoyin-salau-found-dead-tallahassee-black-lives-matter-protest-missing/3190606001/
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/06/15/magazine/jon-stewart-interview.html

    Great interview with Jon Stewart. I would love to see him come out of retirement and make Tucker look like a dummy again. 
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    PJNB said:
    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/06/15/magazine/jon-stewart-interview.html

    Great interview with Jon Stewart. I would love to see him come out of retirement and make Tucker look like a dummy again. 
    I miss him. Left-wing political comedy has gone way downhill without him. I loved Colbert doing his O'Riley-type character on The Colbert Report, but he's insufferable on the Late Show. Especially when he does an impression of Trump's voice. It's brutal. 

    I've recently watched a few old Stewart episodes from around the time of the Eric Garner killing. Here's one. The moment at 2:51 is beyond hilarious. "Go on, sensei."

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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,130
    what dreams said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    54th mass regiment monument in Boston  spray painted and damaged?  Ffs know your history.  I support change but this type of action does not help your cause.  
    I attended a professional development Zoom with Baruti Kafele last week (June 9-10, before this incident), and he asked the question -- how many of these young protesters even know their history? Many of them don't because our previously content-rich curriculums, determined by teachers not corporations, have been decimated by the culture wars and the era of No Child Left Behind where teaching "skills" is more important than teaching content. He advised us all that good teachers know how to breathe life in these dead, skills-based curriculums. I have never been more fired up to help my students understand their world -- if I ever get them back in a classroom.
    Luckily in Social studies we don't teach to the test.  I have taught the 54th regiment in some capacity every year for the past 19 years.  
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,425
    PJNB said:
    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/06/15/magazine/jon-stewart-interview.html

    Great interview with Jon Stewart. I would love to see him come out of retirement and make Tucker look like a dummy again. 
    Thanks for sharing. The line that really stands out to me from that whole interview was this one:

    "There are issues, but again, we point a spotlight on the anecdotal and pretend that it’s universal. What that does is feed the narrative for people who want to use it for their own purposes. That’s what drives me bananas. We’re basically having giant public fights about symbolism, while the reality of our situation goes unexamined."
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,462
    edited June 2020
    If you haven't seen this yet you should.
    Very powerful, occasionally funny, but damn powerful and illuminating. 

    Dave Chapelle 8:46
    https://youtu.be/3tR6mKcBbT4
  • RiotZact
    RiotZact Posts: 6,293
    Bentleyspop said:
    If you haven't seen this yet you should.
    Very powerful, occasionally funny, but damn powerful and illuminating. 

    Dave Chapelle 8:46
    https://youtu.be/3tR6mKcBbT4
    Yep. He gets very “real” with his comedy at times, but I’ve never seen him fired up like he is here. Powerful stuff. 
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,547
    That special is brilliant. Chappelle is extremely compelling, regardless of how many or few jokes. 27 minutes but it flies by.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,462
    pjl44 said:
    That special is brilliant. Chappelle is extremely compelling, regardless of how many or few jokes. 27 minutes but it flies by.
    Spoiler alert....









    The emotion he shows when he segues from his earthquake experience to 8 MINUTES 46 SECONDS .
    I felt it. The first time I almost fell off my couch it was so jolting.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,547
    Bentleyspop said:
    pjl44 said:
    That special is brilliant. Chappelle is extremely compelling, regardless of how many or few jokes. 27 minutes but it flies by.
    Spoiler alert....









    The emotion he shows when he segues from his earthquake experience to 8 MINUTES 46 SECONDS .
    I felt it. The first time I almost fell off my couch it was so jolting.
    Yes, totally. When he starts into it and you instantly figure out where he's going, it's a right cross.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,130
    Bentleyspop said:
    pjl44 said:
    That special is brilliant. Chappelle is extremely compelling, regardless of how many or few jokes. 27 minutes but it flies by.
    Spoiler alert....









    The emotion he shows when he segues from his earthquake experience to 8 MINUTES 46 SECONDS .
    I felt it. The first time I almost fell off my couch it was so jolting.
    He is one of my favorite comedians. I have to check this out.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,841
    Hadn’t heard of that before. Was really amazing.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,705
    tempo_n_groove said:
    For what it's worth I have cell phone video of protesters throwing a garbage can at a police vehicle for no reason.  That didn't make the news either.
    For no reason? Right or wrong, I think we all know there was a reason. 
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,833
    PJ_Soul said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    For what it's worth I have cell phone video of protesters throwing a garbage can at a police vehicle for no reason.  That didn't make the news either.
    For no reason? Right or wrong, I think we all know there was a reason. 
    Depends when and where this happened. 
  • cutz
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    Josh Martinez
    VIDEO: Men In Bethel, OH Confront, Intimidate And Threaten Female Protestor
    By Josh Martinez
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    I thought the presence of police kept the peace?
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    I love how the the counter to "Black Lives Matter" is "USA! USA!"  To steal from memes, etc. on social media: racism is so prominent in America that when you protest it, people think you're protesting America.
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  • Zod
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    I thought the presence of police kept the peace?
    Sort of.   I had a professor in university who liked to talk about the "threat of police" or "threat of punishment" keeps society in line.  There aren't actually enough police to enforce everything.  Not by a long shot.   It's the assumption that you will get caught and punished that keeps the masses in line.

    In regard to the defunding police.   I think it's about Police becoming front line for everything.   Here in Victoria we have a homeless problem.  If you go back in time you see the government cutting more and more mental health services.   Cutting that funding required more policing, because now the streets are full of homeless people, who struggling to function in every day life, because of mental health and/or drug problems.    Now the police need more budget to deal with the homeless problem.   What if they took that budget, and the added officers, and redirected it back to mental health and addiction care.  Would it cost the same?  Would it help those people?  Would we benefit from cleaner streets for the same cost?   It's an interesting concept.   Police are basically the backstop of budget cuts elsewhere.

    I also think governments should be required to remove a law for everyone they add.  It's laughable how many laws there are.   Cops and By-Law officers don't have the manpower to enforce anywhere near all of them.   They go for the big ones and the low hanging fruit.    What's the point of so many laws?
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