Black Lives Matter

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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,530
    It will get moved to AMT by the mods
  • hsohi
    hsohi Posts: 1,033
    OMG!
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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,967
    All lives matter


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  • hrd2imgn
    hrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,924
    lastexitlondon said:
    All lives matter
    Yep, they ALL matter
  • drakeheuer14
    drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,623
    edited June 2020
    lastexitlondon said:
    All lives matter
    Get outta here with this BS. How do some people still not get it?

    BLACK LIVES MATTER.
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  • drakeheuer14
    drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,623


    Maybe you will listen to a Vedder if no one else. 

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  • drakeheuer14
    drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,623
    edited June 2020
    Mods should leave this thread right here. Don’t hide it in AMT for the same 5 people to see and debate (even though there is nothing to debate about it) 
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  • tino_11
    tino_11 Posts: 2,188

    'F*** the pessimists. F*** 'em.' Eddie Vedder
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,674
    drakeheuer14 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    All lives matter
    Get outta here with this BS. How do some people still not get it?

    BLACK LIVES MATTER.

    drakeheuer14 said:


    Maybe you will listen to a Vedder if no one else. 

    BLACK LIVES MATTER.

    I totally agree that "Black Lives Matter" should be just that and not turned into something else. 

    But I totally disagree with your approach to "educating" someone on that concept.  You didn't educate, you chewed ass in a self-righteous manner on lastexitlondon, one of the best people on these forums- a caring, struggling, thoughtful, decent person.  That's just wrong, way wrong, and because of that, it fucks up your otherwise fundamentally right on message.  At the very least, you owe the dude an apology.
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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,967
    Dont worry brian. I live in london  and i know who i am. 
    At this time many people of all nationality are working and dying to save all nationalities in our hospitals and im sad to see all these people of every kind and culture die doing their  job. 
    So i merely  think i would  want to save all people.
    We were  all bought up on an estate here with people from all over the  world whos parents worked in our hospitals so we are as one where  i live. 
    Anger breads anger. 
    Peace  is where im at.


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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,591
    edited June 2020
    If you need to yell out "ALL LIVES MATTER" any time someone says "Black lives matter" you do not know what "Black lives matter" is about. 

    So educate yourself. Instead of running errands for racists wanting to put marginalized people down.

    Unnecessary. 


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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,967
    Apologies if i misunderstood. 



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  • texasistheSTEVEN
    texasistheSTEVEN Posts: 1,111
    "All lives matter".........Jesus christ, go and read a book or two and educate yourself.
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  • texasistheSTEVEN
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    hrd2imgn said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    All lives matter
    Yep, they ALL matter
    ...and they will "all matter" once black lives matter.
    You can also go and read a book or two and educate yourself about why saying "all lives matter" is ignorance personified.
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  • ConorKavanagh
    ConorKavanagh Ireland Posts: 1,148
    All lives matter is more of the same, white people trying to gloss over what's really going on. Let's stop making it all about white people for a change.
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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,967
    I dont use any social media so maybe a little out of touch . I watch the news only again recently. I hadn't any intention  of any ignorance to me i was thinking of all the  horrible deaths that are happening and that made me think of everyone. I was un aware it was a bad phrase to say. I wish no pain on anyone of any kind is all i thought. 


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  • ConorKavanagh
    ConorKavanagh Ireland Posts: 1,148
    I know that your intentions are good on here always, @lastexitlondon. That's from being on these forums and seeing your posts the last couple of years, I can tell that you are a compassionate soul. Personally I knew as soon as I saw it, that you were perhaps not up to speed with the connotations of that phrase nowadays. I also think it's a good sign that others on here feel as strongly as they do about the issue. There MIGHT be hope for the human race after all.
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  • texasistheSTEVEN
    texasistheSTEVEN Posts: 1,111
    lastexitlondon said:
    I dont use any social media so maybe a little out of touch . I watch the news only again recently. I hadn't any intention  of any ignorance to me i was thinking of all the  horrible deaths that are happening and that made me think of everyone. I was un aware it was a bad phrase to say. I wish no pain on anyone of any kind is all i thought. 
    My apologies then. I didn't mean to come across in a hostile way. I've just been seeing "all lives matter" spouted by many right/far right people these past few weeks and it gets a little tiresome and is used as a way to derail a movement that merely seeks equality and not power over another. Black lives mattering is just black people trying to "matter" and have an equal say in the world. And also not be murdered in cold blood by the cops but ya know, that should be a given at this point.
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  • drakeheuer14
    drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,623
    brianlux said:
    drakeheuer14 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    All lives matter
    Get outta here with this BS. How do some people still not get it?

    BLACK LIVES MATTER.

    drakeheuer14 said:


    Maybe you will listen to a Vedder if no one else. 

    BLACK LIVES MATTER.

    I totally agree that "Black Lives Matter" should be just that and not turned into something else. 

    But I totally disagree with your approach to "educating" someone on that concept.  You didn't educate, you chewed ass in a self-righteous manner on lastexitlondon, one of the best people on these forums- a caring, struggling, thoughtful, decent person.  That's just wrong, way wrong, and because of that, it fucks up your otherwise fundamentally right on message.  At the very least, you owe the dude an apology.
    Someone even posting all lives matter, no matter how aloof, proves that in some way, shape or form they believe there is something wrong with the statement black lives matter. I will not apologize for my approach to it; it was necessary. I don’t think the original intentions of posting it matter at all. Even their response fails to truly recognize why it is important to end the all lives matter nonsense. 
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