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It's interesting where I live. Im in Henrico, right on the border with Hanover. If you know VA, you'll know henrico is urban and Hanover is mostly rural, but suburban where 295 and 95 meet on the north end.wndowpayne said:bbiggs said:
If it’s anything like IL, you’ll still get some tough guys that go mask free to prove a point.wndowpayne said:Mandatory masks inside now in Va..This is going to really piss off some idiots..
With a pistol on the hip..
I was in Lowes in Henrico on Sunday and masks were 85% easy. I drove to Home Depot in Hanover, right at 295 and 95 and it was probably 20% masks. It was amazing how different it was only 15 minutes apart, but the Hanover area draws in the rural residents.0 -
Do you believe that over 40% of COVID deaths have occurred in Nursing Homes and Assisted Living Facilities?Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.0
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43% to be exact. And that's with some states not counting residents who were infected there, but ultimately died in a hospital. There are some staggering numbers here. So much so that it should really drive the strategy.EdsonNascimento said:Do you believe that over 40% of COVID deaths have occurred in Nursing Homes and Assisted Living Facilities?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2020/05/26/nursing-homes-assisted-living-facilities-0-6-of-the-u-s-population-43-of-u-s-covid-19-deaths/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
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I know over 50% of the deaths in my city so far were nursing home residents. It is alarming how easily these facilities all across the country have been infected, this makes me think the asymptomatic numbers are likely to be much higher than we currently think.EdsonNascimento said:Do you believe that over 40% of COVID deaths have occurred in Nursing Homes and Assisted Living Facilities?
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pjl44 said:
43% to be exact. And that's with some states not counting residents who were infected there, but ultimately died in a hospital. There are some staggering numbers here. So much so that it should really drive the strategy.EdsonNascimento said:Do you believe that over 40% of COVID deaths have occurred in Nursing Homes and Assisted Living Facilities?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2020/05/26/nursing-homes-assisted-living-facilities-0-6-of-the-u-s-population-43-of-u-s-covid-19-deaths/amp/?__twitter_impression=truegoing out on a limb and say it wasnt the residents who brought it in....but sure. no biggie, right?_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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Over 100,000 dead in America.
“We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”
— President Trump, in an interview with CNBC, was asked about the first diagnosed U.S. case. He said he wasn’t worried about a pandemic.“China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”
— Trump tweet“We only have five people. Hopefully, everything’s going to be great. They have somewhat of a problem, but hopefully, it’s all going to be great. But we’re working with China, just so you know, and other countries very, very closely. So it doesn’t get out of hand. But it’s, you know, it’s something that we have to be very, very careful with, right? We have to be very careful.”
— Trump, at a campaign rally in Des Moines, Iowa“We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”
— Trump, in an interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity, when asked how concerned he was about the coronavirus“We are coordinating with the Chinese government and working closely together on the coronavirus outbreak in China. My administration will take all necessary steps to safeguard our citizens from this threat.”
— Trump, in his State of the Union address“Looks like by April, you know, in theory, when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away. I hope that’s true. But we’re doing great in our country. China, I spoke with President Xi, and they’re working very, very hard. And I think it’s going to all work out fine.”
— Trump, at a campaign rally in Manchester, N.H.“In our country, we only have, basically, 12 cases and most of those people are recovering and some cases fully recovered. So it’s actually less.”
— Trump, in an interview with Geraldo Rivera“The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”— Trump tweet. Stock markets have since fallen into correction territory.“When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.”
— Trump, at a coronavirus task force press briefing“Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus. … One of my people came up to me and said, ‘Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia.’ That didn’t work out too well. They couldn’t do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything, they tried it over and over. … And this is their new hoax.”
— Trump, at a campaign rally in North Charleston, S.C.“Gallup just gave us the highest rating ever for the way we are handling the CoronaVirus situation. The April 2009-10 Swine Flu, where nearly 13,000 people died in the U.S., was poorly handled.”
— Trump tweet. At the end of March, his approval rating would rise to a high point of his presidency, though a “rally-around-the-flag effect” was relatively small and has faded some.“Anybody that wants a test can get a test. That’s what the bottom line is.”
— Trump, while visiting CDC headquarters in Atlanta. This was false. In fact, at this time testing capacity was about 75,000 nationally, according to the CDC.“This was unexpected. … And it hit the world. And we’re prepared, and we’re doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.”— Trump, to reporters at the U.S. Capial0 -
Governor Cuomo had a meeting at the White House this morning.
His comments at his daily briefing sounds like it didn't go great. He sounds like he's speaking to the soul-eater.
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cuomo knows he has to be nice to trump. otherwise trump will punish the people of NY.Kat said:Governor Cuomo had a meeting at the White House this morning.
His comments at his daily briefing sounds like it didn't go great. He sounds like he's speaking to the soul-eater.
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anybody ever see curb your enthusiasm where larry david opens up the spite store? we are living through a spite presidency."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
The average number of pneumonia deaths in Florida up until May 25th is 918 since 2013 - 2018. This year they have a staggering 5185 deaths from pneumonia and only 1762 deaths from Covid so far when comparing the same time frame.
Texas had 973 deaths in 2018 up to this point due to pneumonia. This year they have 4622.
California had 6917 deaths in 2018 from flu/pneumonia. This year they are already up to 6935 deaths deaths this year. We are almost out of the flu season so this number seems close but we still have the fall season to account for.
US deaths by pneumonia in all of 2017 49,157
US deaths by pneumonia since Feb 1 2020 89,555
It seems to me that numbers from this virus, intentionally or not, are being misrepresented in a huge manner in some states. Whether it is for political or economic gain or just not the right means to test properly is anyones guess.
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apples to oranges.PJNB said:
The average number of pneumonia deaths in Florida up until May 25th is 918 since 2013 - 2018. This year they have a staggering 5185 deaths from pneumonia and only 1762 deaths from Covid so far when comparing the same time frame.
Texas had 973 deaths in 2018 up to this point due to pneumonia. This year they have 4622.
California had 6917 deaths in 2018 from flu/pneumonia. This year they are already up to 6935 deaths deaths this year. We are almost out of the flu season so this number seems close but we still have the fall season to account for.
US deaths by pneumonia in all of 2017 49,157
US deaths by pneumonia since Feb 1 2020 89,555
It seems to me that numbers from this virus, intentionally or not, are being misrepresented in a huge manner in some states. Whether it is for political or economic gain or just not the right means to test properly is anyones guess.
pneumonia can be viral or bacterial, so of course there will be a high number of pneumonia cases.
covid-19 is a virus."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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I am not sure what your point is. Why is there an increase of pneumonia deaths this year in some states? 5 times more in Florida is a number that is not a bad year or a fluke. Something is going on with the testing.gimmesometruth27 said:
apples to oranges.PJNB said:
The average number of pneumonia deaths in Florida up until May 25th is 918 since 2013 - 2018. This year they have a staggering 5185 deaths from pneumonia and only 1762 deaths from Covid so far when comparing the same time frame.
Texas had 973 deaths in 2018 up to this point due to pneumonia. This year they have 4622.
California had 6917 deaths in 2018 from flu/pneumonia. This year they are already up to 6935 deaths deaths this year. We are almost out of the flu season so this number seems close but we still have the fall season to account for.
US deaths by pneumonia in all of 2017 49,157
US deaths by pneumonia since Feb 1 2020 89,555
It seems to me that numbers from this virus, intentionally or not, are being misrepresented in a huge manner in some states. Whether it is for political or economic gain or just not the right means to test properly is anyones guess.
pneumonia can be viral or bacterial, so of course there will be a high number of pneumonia cases.
covid-19 is a virus.0 -
Are you thinking that there are Covid deaths being reported as pneumonia instead?PJNB said:
I am not sure what your point is. Why is there an increase of pneumonia deaths this year in some states? 5 times more in Florida is a number that is not a bad year or a fluke. Something is going on with the testing.gimmesometruth27 said:
apples to oranges.PJNB said:
The average number of pneumonia deaths in Florida up until May 25th is 918 since 2013 - 2018. This year they have a staggering 5185 deaths from pneumonia and only 1762 deaths from Covid so far when comparing the same time frame.
Texas had 973 deaths in 2018 up to this point due to pneumonia. This year they have 4622.
California had 6917 deaths in 2018 from flu/pneumonia. This year they are already up to 6935 deaths deaths this year. We are almost out of the flu season so this number seems close but we still have the fall season to account for.
US deaths by pneumonia in all of 2017 49,157
US deaths by pneumonia since Feb 1 2020 89,555
It seems to me that numbers from this virus, intentionally or not, are being misrepresented in a huge manner in some states. Whether it is for political or economic gain or just not the right means to test properly is anyones guess.
pneumonia can be viral or bacterial, so of course there will be a high number of pneumonia cases.
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LOL, what a dense post. As if there aren’t already tons of measures in place to stop the spread food poisoning. Such awareness!!dignin said:
Is food poisoning contagious?mace1229 said:
That seems pretty ridiculous to me. More people have probably been hospitalized from spoiled food than that, are they going to lock down until there is a vaccine for bad meat?PJNB said:For those that do not know my province of 770K has had 122 cases total and no deaths. Our borders are "closed" (you can get in and out if you really want to). If we can not open up no one can and if 2 cases are a cause for enough concern that people think we should shut back down and wait for a vaccine then we have a long road ahead of us.
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The numbers, if correct would indicate that.bootlegger10 said:
Are you thinking that there are Covid deaths being reported as pneumonia instead?PJNB said:
I am not sure what your point is. Why is there an increase of pneumonia deaths this year in some states? 5 times more in Florida is a number that is not a bad year or a fluke. Something is going on with the testing.gimmesometruth27 said:
apples to oranges.PJNB said:
The average number of pneumonia deaths in Florida up until May 25th is 918 since 2013 - 2018. This year they have a staggering 5185 deaths from pneumonia and only 1762 deaths from Covid so far when comparing the same time frame.
Texas had 973 deaths in 2018 up to this point due to pneumonia. This year they have 4622.
California had 6917 deaths in 2018 from flu/pneumonia. This year they are already up to 6935 deaths deaths this year. We are almost out of the flu season so this number seems close but we still have the fall season to account for.
US deaths by pneumonia in all of 2017 49,157
US deaths by pneumonia since Feb 1 2020 89,555
It seems to me that numbers from this virus, intentionally or not, are being misrepresented in a huge manner in some states. Whether it is for political or economic gain or just not the right means to test properly is anyones guess.
pneumonia can be viral or bacterial, so of course there will be a high number of pneumonia cases.
covid-19 is a virus.
Anyone have a source for those numbers?0 -
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htmdignin said:
The numbers, if correct would indicate that.bootlegger10 said:
Are you thinking that there are Covid deaths being reported as pneumonia instead?PJNB said:
I am not sure what your point is. Why is there an increase of pneumonia deaths this year in some states? 5 times more in Florida is a number that is not a bad year or a fluke. Something is going on with the testing.gimmesometruth27 said:
apples to oranges.PJNB said:
The average number of pneumonia deaths in Florida up until May 25th is 918 since 2013 - 2018. This year they have a staggering 5185 deaths from pneumonia and only 1762 deaths from Covid so far when comparing the same time frame.
Texas had 973 deaths in 2018 up to this point due to pneumonia. This year they have 4622.
California had 6917 deaths in 2018 from flu/pneumonia. This year they are already up to 6935 deaths deaths this year. We are almost out of the flu season so this number seems close but we still have the fall season to account for.
US deaths by pneumonia in all of 2017 49,157
US deaths by pneumonia since Feb 1 2020 89,555
It seems to me that numbers from this virus, intentionally or not, are being misrepresented in a huge manner in some states. Whether it is for political or economic gain or just not the right means to test properly is anyones guess.
pneumonia can be viral or bacterial, so of course there will be a high number of pneumonia cases.
covid-19 is a virus.
Anyone have a source for those numbers?
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The initial infection is going to vary wildly by facility. Some are stand-alone, some are part of campuses, some share staff, many have outside health care workers of all sorts coming in. This is a specific area I have knowledge about, so happy to have a discussion if you want to save the snarky bullshit for someone else.mickeyrat said:pjl44 said:
43% to be exact. And that's with some states not counting residents who were infected there, but ultimately died in a hospital. There are some staggering numbers here. So much so that it should really drive the strategy.EdsonNascimento said:Do you believe that over 40% of COVID deaths have occurred in Nursing Homes and Assisted Living Facilities?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2020/05/26/nursing-homes-assisted-living-facilities-0-6-of-the-u-s-population-43-of-u-s-covid-19-deaths/amp/?__twitter_impression=truegoing out on a limb and say it wasnt the residents who brought it in....but sure. no biggie, right?
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And, yeah, a resident who was admitted with covid could absolutely be the person who introduced it to a given facility0
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Someone wants to get fired or at the very least be the target of a twitter tantrum.....
Fauci: Hydroxychloroquine not effective against coronavirus https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/27/fauci-hydroxychloroquine-not-effective-against-coronavirus-283980
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States report to the CDC and some are fudging their numbers. Florida fired the woman who wouldn't fudge the numbers and now there are reports of her previous affair with a student, in an effort to discredit her whistle blowing. This shit is right out of Putin on the Ritz's or Governor Snyder's playbook. Repubs are desperate to look good and look "right." But you know, science. And facts. And maybe enough honest people to see through their bullshit.PJNB said:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htmdignin said:
The numbers, if correct would indicate that.bootlegger10 said:
Are you thinking that there are Covid deaths being reported as pneumonia instead?PJNB said:
I am not sure what your point is. Why is there an increase of pneumonia deaths this year in some states? 5 times more in Florida is a number that is not a bad year or a fluke. Something is going on with the testing.gimmesometruth27 said:
apples to oranges.PJNB said:
The average number of pneumonia deaths in Florida up until May 25th is 918 since 2013 - 2018. This year they have a staggering 5185 deaths from pneumonia and only 1762 deaths from Covid so far when comparing the same time frame.
Texas had 973 deaths in 2018 up to this point due to pneumonia. This year they have 4622.
California had 6917 deaths in 2018 from flu/pneumonia. This year they are already up to 6935 deaths deaths this year. We are almost out of the flu season so this number seems close but we still have the fall season to account for.
US deaths by pneumonia in all of 2017 49,157
US deaths by pneumonia since Feb 1 2020 89,555
It seems to me that numbers from this virus, intentionally or not, are being misrepresented in a huge manner in some states. Whether it is for political or economic gain or just not the right means to test properly is anyones guess.
pneumonia can be viral or bacterial, so of course there will be a high number of pneumonia cases.
covid-19 is a virus.
Anyone have a source for those numbers?
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More wow lately. I'm thinking that it's an "Emperor Has No Clothes" movement.Bentleyspop said:Someone wants to get fired or at the very least be the target of a twitter tantrum.....
Fauci: Hydroxychloroquine not effective against coronavirus https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/27/fauci-hydroxychloroquine-not-effective-against-coronavirus-283980Falling down,...not staying down0
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