Spiritual_Chaos said:

Jason P said:

I'm in an agricultural area so outside of the school systems, the majority of industry is running and has been running as it falls under essential.  People seem to be adapting to the new rules of conduct at work.  Points of cross contamination at work are identified and a solution is engineered to avoid germ spread.  People go home after work.  No one is socializing.  One case reported in our county to date.

F Me In The Brain said:

bbiggs said:

China is the 5th safest in the world.  Isn't that something.  This sure sounds like leading the safety category to me...

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-didnt-warn-public-of-likely-pandemic-for-6-key-days/ar-BB12DU9q?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp

We should just avoid commenting on the mass sharing of clips, .gifs, memes and other bs w/o any substance. 

I don't take my information from a venture capital firm.

mace1229 said:

CM189191 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

rgambs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

rgambs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Bad boy Tegnell on Sweden keeping schools open:

- No large outbreaks have happened. 
- The most spread is happening in the homes within families. So not that big risk of having teachers working - if not sick.
- The spreading of the virus in schools that have occured is by teachers coming in with symptoms, and infecting others colleagues mainly - not kids. But not much of that has occured.
- Kids might not show symptoms when sick. But there have not been any signs of kids spreading the disease in any large amount. 

What a fucking moron.
"We can't tell if kids are sick, but we assume they aren't spreading it anyways."

Moronic.

I would think he (and his colleagues) is more educated in the field. than you are. So his statements should by that token be more educated also.

Thank you.

You might have a point if he wasn't at odds with common sense and the consensus of the rest of the scientific community of the entire world lol

So then, lets look at your point --

You are saying that Anthony Fauci and his Raspy Common Sense Rascals, if they came over here to Sweden would find

1) Huge outbreaks at schools, that has been somehow missed by the Swedish Public Health Agency?
2) A huge problem with kids bringing corona back home from school completely vaporizing families and communities, that has been missed by the Swedish Public Health Agency?

Are you saying that the rest of the scientific community would find all of these cases, that's not been picked up by the PHA?

On a per capita basis, being 33 times smaller than the US, Sweden has the equivalent of nearly 400,000 cases. Does Sweden have the immigrant communities like we have in the US that enhances spread?

Wait what?

Didn't realize we were blaming immigrants now...

Not “blaming” them. But Even gov Cuomo said that’s why NYC spread so fast. Immigrant communities means more travel. More travel means faster spread. There’s nothing wrong with saying that.  That’s nothing against immigrants and immigrant communities. Just facts.

Spiritual_Chaos said:

More travel?

In Sweden they talk about it spreading faster in "immigrant communities" because of people living closer, people living more in one apartment, people living "over generations" in the same place (as they also do in Italy). And information not being available in their native language (maybe a smaller problem in the states than in the US) at the getg-o. But haven't heard about it being connected to them travelling more.

In Sweden the spread got in from THE EDUCATED SHITTY MIDDLECLASS HAVING TO GO TO ITALY TO SKI WHEN GRETA CLEARLY SAID WE SHOULD DROP THE FLYING. Seems the (fewer) cases from both China and Iran were easier to handle. At the beginning.

In the six days after top Chinese officials secretly determined they likely were facing a pandemic from a new coronavirus, the city of Wuhan at the epicenter of the disease hosted a mass banquet for tens of thousands of people; millions began traveling through for Lunar New Year celebrations.

President Xi Jinping warned the public on the seventh day, Jan. 20. But by that time, more than 3,000 people had been infected during almost a week of public silence, according to internal documents obtained by The Associated Press and expert estimates based on retrospective infection data.

Six days.

That delay from Jan. 14 to Jan. 20 was neither the first mistake made by Chinese officials at all levels in confronting the outbreak, nor the longest lag, as governments around the world have dragged their feet for weeks and even months in addressing the virus.

But the delay by the first country to face the new coronavirus came at a critical time — the beginning of the outbreak. China’s attempt to walk a line between alerting the public and avoiding panic set the stage for a pandemic that has infected almost 2 million people and taken more than 126,000 lives.

“This is tremendous,” said Zuo-Feng Zhang, an epidemiologist at the University of California, Los Angeles. “If they took action six days earlier, there would have been much fewer patients and medical facilities would have been sufficient. We might have avoided the collapse of Wuhan’s medical system.”

Other experts noted that the Chinese government may have waited on warning the public to stave off hysteria, and that it did act quickly in private during that time.

But the six-day delay by China’s leaders in Beijing came on top of almost two weeks during which the national Center for Disease Control did not register any cases from local officials, internal bulletins obtained by the AP confirm. Yet during that time, from Jan. 5 to Jan. 17, hundreds of patients were appearing in hospitals not just in Wuhan but across the country.

It’s uncertain whether it was local officials who failed to report cases or national officials who failed to record them. It’s also not clear exactly what officials knew at the time in Wuhan, which only opened back up last week with restrictions after its quarantine.

But what is clear, experts say, is that China’s rigid controls on information, bureaucratic hurdles and a reluctance to send bad news up the chain of command muffled early warnings. The punishment of eight doctors for “rumor-mongering,” broadcast on national television on Jan. 2, sent a chill through the city’s hospitals.

Spiritual_Chaos said:

nicknyr15 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

More travel?

In Sweden they talk about it spreading faster in "immigrant communities" because of people living closer, people living more in one apartment, people living "over generations" in the same place (as they also do in Italy). And information not being available in their native language (maybe a smaller problem in the states than in the US) at the getg-o. But haven't heard about it being connected to them travelling more.

In Sweden the spread got in from THE EDUCATED SHITTY MIDDLECLASS HAVING TO GO TO ITALY TO SKI WHEN GRETA CLEARLY SAID WE SHOULD DROP THE FLYING. Seems the (fewer) cases from both China and Iran were easier to handle. At the beginning.

is this a joke? I can’t tell with you sometimes. And did you ever step outside with Vito?

He hasn't showed up yet.