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It's about the intent. Why do you think Trump and Fox News want to call it the Chinese or Wuhan virus?bbiggs said:
It doesn’t bother me at all if the world continues to call it Covid-19 as opposed to the Wuhan or Chinese Virus, but if that’s what it had been called, I see nothing offensive or racist about it. Political correctness has gone way too far. Everything is suddenly offensive.Spiritual_Chaos said:
It's you versus the world community of scientists and the WHO.bbiggs said:^ I don’t see how naming a virus after the place it originated from is racist. I can’t find anything offensive with it. If it started in America, call it the American virus.
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^^^yep, once Trump gave the smartass “it came from...China” remark, it became a tool of racism and xenophobia.
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Call it what you want over 20k perished in what 4 months, I’ll call it a tragedy that more should of been done here by our federal government this is nation wide not just a N.Y. thing!!jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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Would it have been okay if the WHO named it the Wuhan Virus and the name stuck? Everything these days has a political angle attached to it. That’s the problem. The partisanship is ridiculous. I just view it for what it is and don’t get caught up in the right/left angles being used. I don’t recall previous viruses that were named after the place of origin having a political tug-of-war over naming it, of all things. I choose to not live my life with every single thing being a political issue. This virus will take down a Republican, Democrat, socialist or communist all the same. It doesn’t discriminate. The name is insignificant to me, but a lot of folks are getting major heartburn over it for some reason.dignin said:
It's about the intent. Why do you think Trump and Fox News want to call it the Chinese or Wuhan virus?bbiggs said:
It doesn’t bother me at all if the world continues to call it Covid-19 as opposed to the Wuhan or Chinese Virus, but if that’s what it had been called, I see nothing offensive or racist about it. Political correctness has gone way too far. Everything is suddenly offensive.Spiritual_Chaos said:
It's you versus the world community of scientists and the WHO.bbiggs said:^ I don’t see how naming a virus after the place it originated from is racist. I can’t find anything offensive with it. If it started in America, call it the American virus.
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You may feel differently if you are of Asian dissent and have been the subject of racism directly related to this.bbiggs said:
Would it have been okay if the WHO named it the Wuhan Virus and the name stuck? Everything these days has a political angle attached to it. That’s the problem. The partisanship is ridiculous. I just view it for what it is and don’t get caught up in the right/left angles being used. I don’t recall previous viruses that were named after the place of origin having a political tug-of-war over naming it, of all things. I choose to not live my life with every single thing being a political issue. This virus will take down a Republican, Democrat, socialist or communist all the same. It doesn’t discriminate. The name is insignificant to me, but a lot of folks are getting major heartburn over it for some reason.dignin said:
It's about the intent. Why do you think Trump and Fox News want to call it the Chinese or Wuhan virus?bbiggs said:
It doesn’t bother me at all if the world continues to call it Covid-19 as opposed to the Wuhan or Chinese Virus, but if that’s what it had been called, I see nothing offensive or racist about it. Political correctness has gone way too far. Everything is suddenly offensive.Spiritual_Chaos said:
It's you versus the world community of scientists and the WHO.bbiggs said:^ I don’t see how naming a virus after the place it originated from is racist. I can’t find anything offensive with it. If it started in America, call it the American virus.
Maybe let them decide.
You're right, this shouldn't be politicized, but by calling it anything but it's scientific name, that is what is happening.0 -
Noam Chomsky on Trump's botched coronavirus response: "The country is simply run by sociopaths"
https://youtu.be/o9QVxRCqfek"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
SPEEDY MCCREADY said:brianlux said:Thinking back on it, it seems like all this happened in the blink of an eye. One day (Saturday, March 14th, to be exact) my wife and I were becoming very concerned by things we were hearing. We worked the next day and before the work day was out, Governor Gavin Newsom had given the word that anyone over the age of 65 should be sheltering at home. In an instant, our world changed. The old was gone, and a new era began… in an instant.
It is still unsettling to think about.
Unsettling? Listen to this one!My wife at the age of 50 decided to go back to school and become a Registered Nurse. She has spent the last 30 years working with Autistic children/adults. She finished school a couple months ago, obtained her nursing degree, and is/was all set to begin a new chapter in her life. AT THE AGE OF 50!!
She is supposed to start her new job/career at a hospital in the city of Chicago, 1st week of May. She is excited, I am terrified. Because GOD knows I wouldn't want to voluntarily walk into a hospital 5 days a week. I keep telling her I am going to chain her to the couch May 4th, and not let her out of the house.
OMG, yeah, I would do the same thing! Or at least try. My wife would never stand for being chained down- metaphorically or physically.If your wife goes ahead with the work, I hope she has lots of good PPE."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
I don't think what you say is factually incorrect, but I'm not comfortable as a bedfellow to racists and xenophobes who call it "the China virus" for obvious reasons just because society overreacts to some things.bbiggs said:
Would it have been okay if the WHO named it the Wuhan Virus and the name stuck? Everything these days has a political angle attached to it. That’s the problem. The partisanship is ridiculous. I just view it for what it is and don’t get caught up in the right/left angles being used. I don’t recall previous viruses that were named after the place of origin having a political tug-of-war over naming it, of all things. I choose to not live my life with every single thing being a political issue. This virus will take down a Republican, Democrat, socialist or communist all the same. It doesn’t discriminate. The name is insignificant to me, but a lot of folks are getting major heartburn over it for some reason.dignin said:
It's about the intent. Why do you think Trump and Fox News want to call it the Chinese or Wuhan virus?bbiggs said:
It doesn’t bother me at all if the world continues to call it Covid-19 as opposed to the Wuhan or Chinese Virus, but if that’s what it had been called, I see nothing offensive or racist about it. Political correctness has gone way too far. Everything is suddenly offensive.Spiritual_Chaos said:
It's you versus the world community of scientists and the WHO.bbiggs said:^ I don’t see how naming a virus after the place it originated from is racist. I can’t find anything offensive with it. If it started in America, call it the American virus.
Maybe let them decide.
It's the same deal to me as the OK symbol/circle game controversy. I don't care where it originated or what it meant/means, once white supremacists adopt it (ironically or literally, doesn't matter) I am moving away from it because I'm not comfortable sharing the "space" occupied by such scum.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
Does no one else remember all the media calling it the Wuhan virus for weeks? It wasn’t until Trump called it the China virus that they stoped calling it that and it became racist.
That Bill Maher video someone poster was great. So many viruses are named after the place they came from and no one ever called it racist until now. Wonder why....0 -
yeah well, its also called SARS2bbiggs said:
It doesn’t bother me at all if the world continues to call it Covid-19 as opposed to the Wuhan or Chinese Virus, but if that’s what it had been called, I see nothing offensive or racist about it. Political correctness has gone way too far. Everything is suddenly offensive.Spiritual_Chaos said:
It's you versus the world community of scientists and the WHO.bbiggs said:^ I don’t see how naming a virus after the place it originated from is racist. I can’t find anything offensive with it. If it started in America, call it the American virus.
Maybe let them decide.
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mickeyrat said:
yeah well, its also called SARS2bbiggs said:
It doesn’t bother me at all if the world continues to call it Covid-19 as opposed to the Wuhan or Chinese Virus, but if that’s what it had been called, I see nothing offensive or racist about it. Political correctness has gone way too far. Everything is suddenly offensive.Spiritual_Chaos said:
It's you versus the world community of scientists and the WHO.bbiggs said:^ I don’t see how naming a virus after the place it originated from is racist. I can’t find anything offensive with it. If it started in America, call it the American virus.
Maybe let them decide.The virus is SARS-CoV-2. In shorthand we can all call it "coronavirus" and there's no confusion. The resulting disease is called COVID-19. No other names have ever been supported by any scientific body.The "geographic" and "it's not racist, really" naming is ex post facto politicization, and it's usually used to bait for factual corrections and then complain about political correctness.
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What’s the real bait is using that term for weeks or even months, then all of the sudden calling it racist like the media has done.Mike D88 said:mickeyrat said:
yeah well, its also called SARS2bbiggs said:
It doesn’t bother me at all if the world continues to call it Covid-19 as opposed to the Wuhan or Chinese Virus, but if that’s what it had been called, I see nothing offensive or racist about it. Political correctness has gone way too far. Everything is suddenly offensive.Spiritual_Chaos said:
It's you versus the world community of scientists and the WHO.bbiggs said:^ I don’t see how naming a virus after the place it originated from is racist. I can’t find anything offensive with it. If it started in America, call it the American virus.
Maybe let them decide.The virus is SARS-CoV-2. In shorthand we can all call it "coronavirus" and there's no confusion. The resulting disease is called COVID-19. No other names have ever been supported by any scientific body.The "geographic" and "it's not racist, really" naming is ex post facto politicization, and it's usually used to bait for factual corrections and then complain about political correctness.
Every media outlet called it the Wuhan or Chinese virus until about 3 or 4 weeks ago then suddenly decided it was racist to say that. That’s baiting.0 -
No man....the media called it the Wuhan virus. Trump called it the Chinese virus to fire up his racist base.mace1229 said:
What’s the real bait is using that term for weeks or even months, then all of the sudden calling it racist like the media has done.Mike D88 said:mickeyrat said:
yeah well, its also called SARS2bbiggs said:
It doesn’t bother me at all if the world continues to call it Covid-19 as opposed to the Wuhan or Chinese Virus, but if that’s what it had been called, I see nothing offensive or racist about it. Political correctness has gone way too far. Everything is suddenly offensive.Spiritual_Chaos said:
It's you versus the world community of scientists and the WHO.bbiggs said:^ I don’t see how naming a virus after the place it originated from is racist. I can’t find anything offensive with it. If it started in America, call it the American virus.
Maybe let them decide.The virus is SARS-CoV-2. In shorthand we can all call it "coronavirus" and there's no confusion. The resulting disease is called COVID-19. No other names have ever been supported by any scientific body.The "geographic" and "it's not racist, really" naming is ex post facto politicization, and it's usually used to bait for factual corrections and then complain about political correctness.
Every media outlet called it the Wuhan or Chinese virus until about 3 or 4 weeks ago then suddenly decided it was racist to say that. That’s baiting.
If a virus originates in Israel and is referred to as the "Israeli flu" that's not racism....that's reporting the news. Calling it the "Jewish virus" would be something entirely different.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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The media called it the Wuhan virus for months because it didn’t have another name yet. Once it was named, in early February, responsible media switched to the new correct name, whereas irresponsible media and individuals that like to stir up racist controversy continued to use the Wuhan or China terms.mace1229 said:
What’s the real bait is using that term for weeks or even months, then all of the sudden calling it racist like the media has done.Mike D88 said:mickeyrat said:
yeah well, its also called SARS2bbiggs said:
It doesn’t bother me at all if the world continues to call it Covid-19 as opposed to the Wuhan or Chinese Virus, but if that’s what it had been called, I see nothing offensive or racist about it. Political correctness has gone way too far. Everything is suddenly offensive.Spiritual_Chaos said:
It's you versus the world community of scientists and the WHO.bbiggs said:^ I don’t see how naming a virus after the place it originated from is racist. I can’t find anything offensive with it. If it started in America, call it the American virus.
Maybe let them decide.The virus is SARS-CoV-2. In shorthand we can all call it "coronavirus" and there's no confusion. The resulting disease is called COVID-19. No other names have ever been supported by any scientific body.The "geographic" and "it's not racist, really" naming is ex post facto politicization, and it's usually used to bait for factual corrections and then complain about political correctness.
Every media outlet called it the Wuhan or Chinese virus until about 3 or 4 weeks ago then suddenly decided it was racist to say that. That’s baiting.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
mace1229 said:What’s the real bait is using that term for weeks or even months, then all of the sudden calling it racist like the media has done.
Every media outlet called it the Wuhan or Chinese virus until about 3 or 4 weeks ago then suddenly decided it was racist to say that. That’s baiting."The media"... whatever the hell that's supposed to mean. I've been following this since late last year and didn't see this naming in regular use by any "mainstream" media, pop-sci media or scientific media.Regardless: Naming infectious agents by place of discovery is a practice that ended last century. I don't care who may have "started it." Its use right now has a very specific political coloring.
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So with your example a virus from Israel being called the Israeli flu is okay, but a virus from China being called Chinese virus is racist? I’m not following that logic.Gern Blansten said:
No man....the media called it the Wuhan virus. Trump called it the Chinese virus to fire up his racist base.mace1229 said:
What’s the real bait is using that term for weeks or even months, then all of the sudden calling it racist like the media has done.Mike D88 said:mickeyrat said:
yeah well, its also called SARS2bbiggs said:
It doesn’t bother me at all if the world continues to call it Covid-19 as opposed to the Wuhan or Chinese Virus, but if that’s what it had been called, I see nothing offensive or racist about it. Political correctness has gone way too far. Everything is suddenly offensive.Spiritual_Chaos said:
It's you versus the world community of scientists and the WHO.bbiggs said:^ I don’t see how naming a virus after the place it originated from is racist. I can’t find anything offensive with it. If it started in America, call it the American virus.
Maybe let them decide.The virus is SARS-CoV-2. In shorthand we can all call it "coronavirus" and there's no confusion. The resulting disease is called COVID-19. No other names have ever been supported by any scientific body.The "geographic" and "it's not racist, really" naming is ex post facto politicization, and it's usually used to bait for factual corrections and then complain about political correctness.
Every media outlet called it the Wuhan or Chinese virus until about 3 or 4 weeks ago then suddenly decided it was racist to say that. That’s baiting.
If a virus originates in Israel and is referred to as the "Israeli flu" that's not racism....that's reporting the news. Calling it the "Jewish virus" would be something entirely different.0 -
The good news is that it really isn't a partisan issuenicknyr15 said:Sucks that this China thing has become a partisan issue. China should be pressed on this from both sides. Especially considering how these markets have already started to reopen
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/08/coronavirus-crisis-is-turning-americans-both-parties-against-china/
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Since several didn’t seem to know what the media called it, I googled it. I know this source is right wing media, but it was the first search result and the clips aren’t made up. CNN and CBS repeatedly called it the Wuhan or Chinese Coronavirus. It wasn’t they didn’t have another name, because they clearly knew it was the coronavirus. The did this for months. It’s not racist, we’ve called many viruses and diseases based where t he y came from. So why are they calling it racist now?0
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All this talk about what to call this virus. Me, I just call it "That fucking virus."
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