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I'm really broken up by seeing what's happening in Italy right now. Almost 500 deaths in the last 24 hours. To anyone in Italy in 10C, my heart goes out to you.josevolution said:4 months into crisis Italy has its worst day yesterday!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-europe-51952712
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tish said:Hi New Yorkers,
I suppose you guys are facing a carrot or the stick option. Here in Canada, we have not evoked the Emergency Act yet, which will be required when the carrot is insufficient to have citizens act with a duty of care to others.
Bear in mind, again, however your state achieves results, that these measures will avoid health care practitioners having to decide who obtains medical resources and survives.choices like the Docs in Italy are being forced to make....
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maybe its wishful thinking, but I saw more reefer trailers last night, sealed loads with locks than I believe I see normally.
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My old man is hauling milk from Ohio all the way to Iowa and eastern PA for Costcos and big box stores! Crazy.mickeyrat said:maybe its wishful thinking, but I saw more reefer trailers last night, sealed loads with locks than I believe I see normally.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
It sounds like you didnt catch the original comment.PJNB said:Wow. Why in the world would you think that comforts them? What a ridiculous thing to say.
You can be happy that if you and your love ones that do not have any underlying illnesses are more than likely going to be ok if and when you get this virus. That does not mean you do not care about any other stats or any other people any less. Why do I even need to explain this out loud? The link above is great news if true for a lot of people and should be posted since it debunks a lot of misinformation that has been spreading around a lot lately.
I'm questioning why anyone would be comforted by the misinformation that those under 60 are safe if otherwise healthy, which is dangerously vague and inexact term the medical world.
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"It’s comforting because it explains what otherwise appeared to be anomalous data from Italy, and knowledge is power. And for me, it’s comforting because it tells me that my otherwise healthy under-60 friends and family are probably going to be okay physically."0 -
Absolutely disagree, the population density in the 5 Burroughs and their burbs is insane, and that makes it a hugely high risk area. The physical proximity of people, not to mention the traditionally "hardened" attitude of New Yorkers (that's the nicest term I could think of lol) coupled with the relative lack of hospital capacity makes for a disaster scenario that the rest of New York doesn't necessarily face.F Me In The Brain said:Agree that it is silly to have this in place in some spots and not others. It is better than not doing it at all but it should be done federally.I buy into this position but can understand why most will not and I also do not think it will happen, although Ackerman clearly does.The idea that I ever would have considered a full 30 day lock-down to be the best option for our economy/shot at continuing American life as we know it is a complete joke, to me. Yet....here we are.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
DewieCox said:Does twisting words and tearing down any positive news or thoughts about this make you feel better and more woke? Mike’s not gonna send you a cookie.
Do you even know the exact medical history of all of your friends, family and colleagues? Do you understand the slightest of medical conditions could put you or others close to you in grave danger?
We are living in a world of higher risk because our president took and communicated false comfort instead of taking actions other countries did to save lives. Instead of calling other members names, perhaps you should be better informed.
Explain how exactly I am twisting the following words-
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"It’s comforting because it explains what otherwise appeared to be anomalous data from Italy, and knowledge is power. And for me, it’s comforting because it tells me that my otherwise healthy under-60 friends and family are probably going to be okay physically."
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fife said:
please please tell me she didn't say that. do not listen to her and maybe find a new doctor
First question to ANY doctor should be, are you an ID specialist. And then maybe we can listen to what they have to say.0 -
mickeyrat said:choices like the Docs in Italy are being forced to make....
The situation in Italy is specifically why I don't understand anyone trying to downplay this, or questioning what they perceive to be an overreaction. These are desperate times for Italy, and it's not a third world country.No, no one needs to stockpile 6 months worth of toilet paper, but with that being said, people SHOULD be staying at home, and bars & restaurants should be closed right now. The economy is f'ed regardless. The priority for everyone right now should be on saving lives & containing the spread.
If you're not paying attention to what's going on Italy and / or think it can't happen where you are, you have your head in the sand.
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Sorry, but you are twisting those words.Lerxst1992 said:
Do you even know the exact medical history of all of your friends, family and colleagues? Do you understand the slightest of medical conditions could put you or others close to you in grave danger?
We are living in a world of higher risk because our president took and communicated false comfort instead of taking actions other countries did to save lives. Instead of calling other members names, perhaps you should be better informed.
Explain how exactly I am twisting the following words-
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"It’s comforting because it explains what otherwise appeared to be anomalous data from Italy, and knowledge is power. And for me, it’s comforting because it tells me that my otherwise healthy under-60 friends and family are probably going to be okay physically."
Statistically, we are ALL probably going to be OK. Why you have a problem with people taking some measure of comfort from that is where you are losing us.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
I don't get the fighting over whether people find certain aspects of this whole mess comforting or not.Personally I find Corona immensely worrying, not just from a health perspective but also a social and economic one. I'm terribly concerned about my grandparents (all 90 years old) and parents (60 and 62, mild heart problems) catching it. All of them are worried! All of them would also tell you that they're just hoping to get through this and they're glad that at least it doesn't affect children. Looking at all my friends with children I'm extremely relieved that they will hopefully be safe. Is it wrong to find that comfort? I don't think so.Seeing young folk ignoring the danger and therefore potentially endangering others is a whole different story of course.0
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Lerxst1992 said:
Do you even know the exact medical history of all of your friends, family and colleagues? Do you understand the slightest of medical conditions could put you or others close to you in grave danger?
We are living in a world of higher risk because our president took and communicated false comfort instead of taking actions other countries did to save lives. Instead of calling other members names, perhaps you should be better informed.
Explain how exactly I am twisting the following words-
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"It’s comforting because it explains what otherwise appeared to be anomalous data from Italy, and knowledge is power. And for me, it’s comforting because it tells me that my otherwise healthy under-60 friends and family are probably going to be okay physically."
I have no idea what is driving your thoughts and emotion about my comment. Is it forbidden to take comfort from the fact that some of my loved ones will probably be okay, freeing up a little emotional space so that I can I worry more about others?
I can only assume you are totally misunderstanding what's behind my comments, which is okay. We're all a bit, or more than a bit, anxious.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
I think I saw an unfortunate update today regarding this family.mcgruff10 said:
im sorry for your loss and can’t fathom the devastation this family and so many others are dealing with right now.
Don’t stop posting because of some jerks who jumped on your ass about your friends mask. I have construction masks from spraying I did 3 years ago. Seriously people.
So don’t stop posting because it seemed to help you and sometimes just reading helps those who don’t post.
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rgambs said:Absolutely disagree, the population density in the 5 Burroughs and their burbs is insane, and that makes it a hugely high risk area. The physical proximity of people, not to mention the traditionally "hardened" attitude of New Yorkers (that's the nicest term I could think of lol) coupled with the relative lack of hospital capacity makes for a disaster scenario that the rest of New York doesn't necessarily face.I can understand your position. We can agree to disagree, as I believe everywhere should be on lock-down. (Even areas were you think there might not be quite the same risk for a disaster scenario.)Hardened Attitude gave me a chuckle.The love he receives is the love that is saved0
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oftenreading said:
I have no idea what is driving your thoughts and emotion about my comment. Is it forbidden to take comfort from the fact that some of my loved ones will probably be okay, freeing up a little emotional space so that I can I worry more about others?
I can only assume you are totally misunderstanding what's behind my comments, which is okay. We're all a bit, or more than a bit, anxious.
Because our president, who is world famous for his misinformation, spread MONTHS worth of false comfort that will cost us lives.
We are facing the worst health crisis since apparently the Spanish flu, covering a hundred years, and possibly 80% of us will be completely unaware if we are asymptomatic and carrying the disease.
Just because you will live thru this does not mean potentially you could directly cause the death of others simply by deciding you are comfortable and it's ok to walk in public with your comfort shoes on0 -
huh?? You really want to misinterpret, don't you?!Lerxst1992 said:
Because our president, who is world famous for his misinformation, spread MONTHS worth of false comfort that will cost us lives.
We are facing the worst health crisis since apparently the Spanish flu, covering a hundred years, and possibly 80% of us will be completely unaware if we are asymptomatic and carrying the disease.
Just because you will live thru this does not mean potentially you could directly cause the death of others simply by deciding you are comfortable and it's ok to walk in public with your comfort shoes on
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Don't project your frustration with common idiots onto well-educated, informed, and conscientious people like oftenreading.Lerxst1992 said:
Because our president, who is world famous for his misinformation, spread MONTHS worth of false comfort that will cost us lives.
We are facing the worst health crisis since apparently the Spanish flu, covering a hundred years, and possibly 80% of us will be completely unaware if we are asymptomatic and carrying the disease.
Just because you will live thru this does not mean potentially you could directly cause the death of others simply by deciding you are comfortable and it's ok to walk in public with your comfort shoes on
It makes you look like a reactionary fool and if I did the same sort of projection onto you it would have me saying that you are trying to foment panic.
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wow, i can't believe you are taking this to this level. often merely expressed a certain level of comfort that some people they know will be ok. that doesn't mean often is "ok" with others dying. jesus, those two things aren't mutually exclusive. it's called looking at the positives, the silver linings, etc.Lerxst1992 said:
Because our president, who is world famous for his misinformation, spread MONTHS worth of false comfort that will cost us lives.
We are facing the worst health crisis since apparently the Spanish flu, covering a hundred years, and possibly 80% of us will be completely unaware if we are asymptomatic and carrying the disease.
Just because you will live thru this does not mean potentially you could directly cause the death of others simply by deciding you are comfortable and it's ok to walk in public with your comfort shoes onBy The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Earlier I posted Pardon My Take's interview with Fauci. I'll post it again here because I do find it to be very informative. One of the biggest takeaways is he said you can catch the virus, and not be contagious for a few days, nor have symptoms for a few days. Even worse, you can catch the virus, and test negative for it in the early stages because the virus hasn't fully acclimated (not the right word, but you get the point) to your body. So say for example...Lerxst1992 said:
Because our president, who is world famous for his misinformation, spread MONTHS worth of false comfort that will cost us lives.
We are facing the worst health crisis since apparently the Spanish flu, covering a hundred years, and possibly 80% of us will be completely unaware if we are asymptomatic and carrying the disease.
Just because you will live thru this does not mean potentially you could directly cause the death of others simply by deciding you are comfortable and it's ok to walk in public with your comfort shoes on
Day 1: You're not feeling well, for whatever reason, but not because of the virus.
Day 2: You're still not feeling well, but at some point today, you've caught the virus.
Day 3: Third straight day of being sick, you feel you need the Co-void test.
Day 4: You get the test, but you test negative because it's only been in your system for two days
Day 5 on onward: You're walking around thinking you're fine, but you're actually infected and contagious.
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Lerxst1992 said:
Do you even know the exact medical history of all of your friends, family and colleagues? Do you understand the slightest of medical conditions could put you or others close to you in grave danger?
We are living in a world of higher risk because our president took and communicated false comfort instead of taking actions other countries did to save lives. Instead of calling other members names, perhaps you should be better informed.
Explain how exactly I am twisting the following words-
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"It’s comforting because it explains what otherwise appeared to be anomalous data from Italy, and knowledge is power. And for me, it’s comforting because it tells me that my otherwise healthy under-60 friends and family are probably going to be okay physically."key word there PROBABLY going to be ok.RIF.take a fucking pill. smoke a joint. down a fifth. or whatever you do to chill the fuck out and stop projecting.you're getting as bad as someone else here, Jr._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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