The Democratic Presidential Debates
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Emily Ratajkowski Thinks Bernie Bros Are a Myth
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Emily Ratajkowski Thinks Bernie Bros Are a Myth
https://youtu.be/1B2EhhmQ6aI
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CM189191 said:pjl44 said:There has been a fair amount of crying wolf over voter fraud, rigged elections, voter suppression, etc. these last few years. We are inevitably going to have a no-bullshit case of one of the above and no one is going to believe it.
Trump adviser tells Wisconsin Republicans that GOP has ‘traditionally’ relied on voter suppression but will ‘start playing offense’ in 2020
https://www.chicagotribune.com/midwest/ct-trump-gop-wisconsin-voter-suppression-20191221-wm6pi27zufctxmbe6gx4i2r4ce-story.html
“Traditionally it’s always been Republicans suppressing votes in places,” Justin Clark, a senior political adviser and senior counsel to Trump’s re-election campaign, said at the event. “Let’s start protecting our voters. We know where they are. ... Let’s start playing offense a little bit. That’s what you’re going to see in 2020. It’s going to be a much bigger program, a much more aggressive program, a much better-funded program.”Clark made the comments Nov. 21 in a meeting of the Republican National Lawyers Association’s Wisconsin chapter. Attendees included the state Senate's top Republican, Scott Fitzgerald, along with the executive director of the Wisconsin Republican Party.
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pjl44 said:CM189191 said:pjl44 said:There has been a fair amount of crying wolf over voter fraud, rigged elections, voter suppression, etc. these last few years. We are inevitably going to have a no-bullshit case of one of the above and no one is going to believe it.
Trump adviser tells Wisconsin Republicans that GOP has ‘traditionally’ relied on voter suppression but will ‘start playing offense’ in 2020
https://www.chicagotribune.com/midwest/ct-trump-gop-wisconsin-voter-suppression-20191221-wm6pi27zufctxmbe6gx4i2r4ce-story.html
“Traditionally it’s always been Republicans suppressing votes in places,” Justin Clark, a senior political adviser and senior counsel to Trump’s re-election campaign, said at the event. “Let’s start protecting our voters. We know where they are. ... Let’s start playing offense a little bit. That’s what you’re going to see in 2020. It’s going to be a much bigger program, a much more aggressive program, a much better-funded program.”Clark made the comments Nov. 21 in a meeting of the Republican National Lawyers Association’s Wisconsin chapter. Attendees included the state Senate's top Republican, Scott Fitzgerald, along with the executive director of the Wisconsin Republican Party.
He got caught saying the quiet part out loud.
and had to backpedal....nonono that's not what I meant
for further evidence, look at what the GOP does, not just what they say:
the GOP is constantly trying to pass voter id laws, closing polling stations, removing voters, and stopping any legislation that would make it easier to vote, or have a paper trail
hard to believe he really meant anything else in that context0 -
CM189191 said:pjl44 said:CM189191 said:pjl44 said:There has been a fair amount of crying wolf over voter fraud, rigged elections, voter suppression, etc. these last few years. We are inevitably going to have a no-bullshit case of one of the above and no one is going to believe it.
Trump adviser tells Wisconsin Republicans that GOP has ‘traditionally’ relied on voter suppression but will ‘start playing offense’ in 2020
https://www.chicagotribune.com/midwest/ct-trump-gop-wisconsin-voter-suppression-20191221-wm6pi27zufctxmbe6gx4i2r4ce-story.html
“Traditionally it’s always been Republicans suppressing votes in places,” Justin Clark, a senior political adviser and senior counsel to Trump’s re-election campaign, said at the event. “Let’s start protecting our voters. We know where they are. ... Let’s start playing offense a little bit. That’s what you’re going to see in 2020. It’s going to be a much bigger program, a much more aggressive program, a much better-funded program.”Clark made the comments Nov. 21 in a meeting of the Republican National Lawyers Association’s Wisconsin chapter. Attendees included the state Senate's top Republican, Scott Fitzgerald, along with the executive director of the Wisconsin Republican Party.
He got caught saying the quiet part out loud.
and had to backpedal....nonono that's not what I meant
for further evidence, look at what the GOP does, not just what they say:
the GOP is constantly trying to pass voter id laws, closing polling stations, removing voters, and stopping any legislation that would make it easier to vote, or have a paper trail
hard to believe he really meant anything else in that context0 -
pjl44 said:CM189191 said:pjl44 said:CM189191 said:pjl44 said:There has been a fair amount of crying wolf over voter fraud, rigged elections, voter suppression, etc. these last few years. We are inevitably going to have a no-bullshit case of one of the above and no one is going to believe it.
Trump adviser tells Wisconsin Republicans that GOP has ‘traditionally’ relied on voter suppression but will ‘start playing offense’ in 2020
https://www.chicagotribune.com/midwest/ct-trump-gop-wisconsin-voter-suppression-20191221-wm6pi27zufctxmbe6gx4i2r4ce-story.html
“Traditionally it’s always been Republicans suppressing votes in places,” Justin Clark, a senior political adviser and senior counsel to Trump’s re-election campaign, said at the event. “Let’s start protecting our voters. We know where they are. ... Let’s start playing offense a little bit. That’s what you’re going to see in 2020. It’s going to be a much bigger program, a much more aggressive program, a much better-funded program.”Clark made the comments Nov. 21 in a meeting of the Republican National Lawyers Association’s Wisconsin chapter. Attendees included the state Senate's top Republican, Scott Fitzgerald, along with the executive director of the Wisconsin Republican Party.
He got caught saying the quiet part out loud.
and had to backpedal....nonono that's not what I meant
for further evidence, look at what the GOP does, not just what they say:
the GOP is constantly trying to pass voter id laws, closing polling stations, removing voters, and stopping any legislation that would make it easier to vote, or have a paper trail
hard to believe he really meant anything else in that context
this shouldn't be so difficult to comprehend0 -
CM189191 said:pjl44 said:CM189191 said:pjl44 said:CM189191 said:pjl44 said:There has been a fair amount of crying wolf over voter fraud, rigged elections, voter suppression, etc. these last few years. We are inevitably going to have a no-bullshit case of one of the above and no one is going to believe it.
Trump adviser tells Wisconsin Republicans that GOP has ‘traditionally’ relied on voter suppression but will ‘start playing offense’ in 2020
https://www.chicagotribune.com/midwest/ct-trump-gop-wisconsin-voter-suppression-20191221-wm6pi27zufctxmbe6gx4i2r4ce-story.html
“Traditionally it’s always been Republicans suppressing votes in places,” Justin Clark, a senior political adviser and senior counsel to Trump’s re-election campaign, said at the event. “Let’s start protecting our voters. We know where they are. ... Let’s start playing offense a little bit. That’s what you’re going to see in 2020. It’s going to be a much bigger program, a much more aggressive program, a much better-funded program.”Clark made the comments Nov. 21 in a meeting of the Republican National Lawyers Association’s Wisconsin chapter. Attendees included the state Senate's top Republican, Scott Fitzgerald, along with the executive director of the Wisconsin Republican Party.
He got caught saying the quiet part out loud.
and had to backpedal....nonono that's not what I meant
for further evidence, look at what the GOP does, not just what they say:
the GOP is constantly trying to pass voter id laws, closing polling stations, removing voters, and stopping any legislation that would make it easier to vote, or have a paper trail
hard to believe he really meant anything else in that context
this shouldn't be so difficult to comprehend
This is precisely the problem I'm talking about. People pointing to unrelated examples and applying it to any election where they don't like the results. Being angry and vulgar doesn't make you more right. It means no one is going to believe you when that situation actually happens.0 -
mrussel1 said:Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mickeyrat said:Halifax2TheMax said:mickeyrat said:mrussel1 said:Turnout in Michigan was up 33% from 2016, yet it was voter suppression
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/487383-ocasio-cortez-rampant-voter-suppression-contributed-to-sanderss-loss-inmy counter would be, despite a higher registered voter number, the election boards prepare based on historical turnout i.e. number of poll workers and machines at a given location.further, there is no way to predict, along with actual turnout, just what time a set of voters will actually appear.so the states either put up the cash to have enough machines in place for all eligible voters, registered or not. And have an equal number of volunteers on hand to meet that potential demand. or the voters put ul with the inconvenience consistantly to force states to to put up the cash to meet demand.this is driven by citizen apathy not sinister motives although that can also play a role.
If you poorly manage on purpose, say in minority neighborhoods?Damn these executives and their fancy words.
If in Nov everything returns to normal and our emperor allows elections, we’ll be pretty pissed if thousands can’t vote in the swing cities.
The funny thing about AOCs claim, is voting was up 30% in Washtenaw County.0 -
Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mickeyrat said:Halifax2TheMax said:mickeyrat said:mrussel1 said:Turnout in Michigan was up 33% from 2016, yet it was voter suppression
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/487383-ocasio-cortez-rampant-voter-suppression-contributed-to-sanderss-loss-inmy counter would be, despite a higher registered voter number, the election boards prepare based on historical turnout i.e. number of poll workers and machines at a given location.further, there is no way to predict, along with actual turnout, just what time a set of voters will actually appear.so the states either put up the cash to have enough machines in place for all eligible voters, registered or not. And have an equal number of volunteers on hand to meet that potential demand. or the voters put ul with the inconvenience consistantly to force states to to put up the cash to meet demand.this is driven by citizen apathy not sinister motives although that can also play a role.
If you poorly manage on purpose, say in minority neighborhoods?Damn these executives and their fancy words.
If in Nov everything returns to normal and our emperor allows elections, we’ll be pretty pissed if thousands can’t vote in the swing cities.
The funny thing about AOCs claim, is voting was up 30% in Washtenaw County.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mickeyrat said:Halifax2TheMax said:mickeyrat said:mrussel1 said:Turnout in Michigan was up 33% from 2016, yet it was voter suppression
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/487383-ocasio-cortez-rampant-voter-suppression-contributed-to-sanderss-loss-inmy counter would be, despite a higher registered voter number, the election boards prepare based on historical turnout i.e. number of poll workers and machines at a given location.further, there is no way to predict, along with actual turnout, just what time a set of voters will actually appear.so the states either put up the cash to have enough machines in place for all eligible voters, registered or not. And have an equal number of volunteers on hand to meet that potential demand. or the voters put ul with the inconvenience consistantly to force states to to put up the cash to meet demand.this is driven by citizen apathy not sinister motives although that can also play a role.
If you poorly manage on purpose, say in minority neighborhoods?Damn these executives and their fancy words.
If in Nov everything returns to normal and our emperor allows elections, we’ll be pretty pissed if thousands can’t vote in the swing cities.
The funny thing about AOCs claim, is voting was up 30% in Washtenaw County.0 -
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Primaries can't work when people decide their candidate and their candidate only is worthy of support.
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JimmyV said:Primaries can't work when people decide their candidate and their candidate only is worthy of support.Kidding. Yeah, the theory is that people in the party ultimately support the collaborative consensus. This is based on the assumption that people will compromise. Some won’t and great becomes the enemy of good.1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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I think there's a pretty stark difference between Bernie and Biden. It's like a Cruz or Rubio supporter who wouldn't vote for Trump. Not everyone is Party Above All.0
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If you are a Bernie supporter unwilling to support Biden in the fall, then you are saying you are ok with a second Trump term. That's your choice, but that's on you. The same goes for anyone who would have refused to support Bernie if he became the nominee. The differences between Sanders and Biden don't make Trump any more qualified or acceptable. Get over yourselves and help end this.
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JimmyV said:If you are a Bernie supporter unwilling to support Biden in the fall, then you are saying you are ok with a second Trump term. That's your choice, but that's on you. The same goes for anyone who would have refused to support Bernie if he became the nominee. The differences between Sanders and Biden don't make Trump any more qualified or acceptable. Get over yourselves and help end this.0
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pjl44 said:JimmyV said:If you are a Bernie supporter unwilling to support Biden in the fall, then you are saying you are ok with a second Trump term. That's your choice, but that's on you. The same goes for anyone who would have refused to support Bernie if he became the nominee. The differences between Sanders and Biden don't make Trump any more qualified or acceptable. Get over yourselves and help end this.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0
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pjl44 said:JimmyV said:If you are a Bernie supporter unwilling to support Biden in the fall, then you are saying you are ok with a second Trump term. That's your choice, but that's on you. The same goes for anyone who would have refused to support Bernie if he became the nominee. The differences between Sanders and Biden don't make Trump any more qualified or acceptable. Get over yourselves and help end this.
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If you are more invested in the argument between left-leaning factions than you are in beating Trump, then you are part of the toxic political culture that helped get him elected. I like Bernie, I like Joe. Neither were my preferred candidate, both would get my vote in November.
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Wherein people dicussing divergent political views is a toxic culture. If beating Trump means conforming to a different group of petty fascists, then you can start to understand the appeal of third parties.0
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