The Democratic Presidential Debates

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

CM189191 said:

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Lerxst1992 said:

"Joe Biden told a factory worker 'you're full of sh--' during a tense argument over guns"

Go get em Joe. Make all the gop liars eat sh--!

He still has the fighting spirit, I'll give him that. But he still called it an AR-14 instead of an AR-15. I know, simple gaffe that doesn't hurt anyone. But lord, he makes a gaffe every few hours. 

Biden is a gaffe.  His dementia is showing.

Why would it be dementia?

To me it sounds like regular old-age senile and/or stress. Not dementia like my grandmother had.

Senile sounds about right.

Right on cue.

https://apple.news/AKBS48fM5TmKZw9Jq-JDKOA

I don’t think it’s just a party line. That man is losing it. He really is. It’s sad watching him try to talk sometimes. A day or two ago he said he wants to bring us back to the “Obiden/Bama” years. And we all misspeak like that from time to time. But it’s everyday (every few hours really) with Joe. I think it’s perfectly reasonable for the GOP or Fox News to harp on this. 

Losing it how? Like asking why we can’t nuke a hurricane? Or drawing his own map of a hurricane’s path and presenting it as fact? Or losing it like tossing paper towels to hurricane survivors? Or losing it by stating that Putin on the ritz told him Russia didn’t interfere in our elections so it must be true? Or losing it by watching a couple of prostitutes peeing on a bed?

Hahahaha, GREAT argument for Biden, dude. He hasn't lost it as much as Donald Trump. Talk about a low bar. 

You said he “was losing it.” I’m asking you to define “losing it.” There’s a scale of what apparently is acceptable to you and others around here so I want to know what is it specifically that Sleepy “Woke” Joe has said or done that illustrates for you that “he’s losing it.” He referred to an AR15 as an AR14? Oh my god lock him up but let’s give that nuking a hurricane a try? Never been done before and you don’t know until you try.


Comparing Biden to Team Trump Treason is a great argument for Biden to anyone living in reality. Talk about how far some have fallen.

Come on, man. Get Trump off your mind for the first time in years, and just judge Joe on his own. He can't even remember Obama's name! Watch....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRtWGRgR5Aw

Ummmmm, who’s the repub nominee likely to be in 2020? Given the choice I think it’s going to be, Sleepy “Woke” Joe is the better choice. Nor has he “lost it” like you’d like to claim but even if he does or did “lose it,” he’d be the better choice.

So you refuse to just judge Joe on his own as I asked. Typical. In a vaccum, independent of Trump and everything else, just look at the guy. It's sad to watch. ("SADDER THAN TEAM TRUMP TREASON WATCHING PUTIN ON THE RITZ PEE ON A HOOKER!?!?!") No, independent of Trump, just judging Joe being Joe, it's sad to watch. 

I mean, like you, I'll vote for him for president over Trump. Hey, if nothing else, he'll be another president that makes George W. Bush look not-so-dumb by comparison. 

Biden is the most qualified presidential candidate to run since Hillary

Thank you. Establishment doesn’t see that in their fervor to destroy Bernie they are running another most qualified candidate to beat Trump. I mean just look at the polling data worked in 16.  The way I see it is Biden beats Bernie in the primaries but Biden doesn’t have a chance against Trump. i Hope I am wrong but it seems the DNC wants to make the same mistakes but justify themselves through every step this time around

There's no data that supports that conclusion.  Turnout surged in the states that Biden won.  He won in the suburbs, he won with the black community, middle age.  He crushed with women and ran even with white men. The demographics support the results.  It wasn't the "establishment", it was the Democratic voters. 

CM189191 said:

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

CM189191 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

PJPOWER said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

PJPOWER said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

"Joe Biden told a factory worker 'you're full of sh--' during a tense argument over guns"

Go get em Joe. Make all the gop liars eat sh--!

He still has the fighting spirit, I'll give him that. But he still called it an AR-14 instead of an AR-15. I know, simple gaffe that doesn't hurt anyone. But lord, he makes a gaffe every few hours. 

Biden is a gaffe.  His dementia is showing.

Why would it be dementia?

To me it sounds like regular old-age senile and/or stress. Not dementia like my grandmother had.

Senile sounds about right.

Right on cue.

https://apple.news/AKBS48fM5TmKZw9Jq-JDKOA

I don’t think it’s just a party line. That man is losing it. He really is. It’s sad watching him try to talk sometimes. A day or two ago he said he wants to bring us back to the “Obiden/Bama” years. And we all misspeak like that from time to time. But it’s everyday (every few hours really) with Joe. I think it’s perfectly reasonable for the GOP or Fox News to harp on this. 

Losing it how? Like asking why we can’t nuke a hurricane? Or drawing his own map of a hurricane’s path and presenting it as fact? Or losing it like tossing paper towels to hurricane survivors? Or losing it by stating that Putin on the ritz told him Russia didn’t interfere in our elections so it must be true? Or losing it by watching a couple of prostitutes peeing on a bed?

Hahahaha, GREAT argument for Biden, dude. He hasn't lost it as much as Donald Trump. Talk about a low bar. 

You said he “was losing it.” I’m asking you to define “losing it.” There’s a scale of what apparently is acceptable to you and others around here so I want to know what is it specifically that Sleepy “Woke” Joe has said or done that illustrates for you that “he’s losing it.” He referred to an AR15 as an AR14? Oh my god lock him up but let’s give that nuking a hurricane a try? Never been done before and you don’t know until you try.


Comparing Biden to Team Trump Treason is a great argument for Biden to anyone living in reality. Talk about how far some have fallen.

Come on, man. Get Trump off your mind for the first time in years, and just judge Joe on his own. He can't even remember Obama's name! Watch....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRtWGRgR5Aw

Ummmmm, who’s the repub nominee likely to be in 2020? Given the choice I think it’s going to be, Sleepy “Woke” Joe is the better choice. Nor has he “lost it” like you’d like to claim but even if he does or did “lose it,” he’d be the better choice.

So you refuse to just judge Joe on his own as I asked. Typical. In a vaccum, independent of Trump and everything else, just look at the guy. It's sad to watch. ("SADDER THAN TEAM TRUMP TREASON WATCHING PUTIN ON THE RITZ PEE ON A HOOKER!?!?!") No, independent of Trump, just judging Joe being Joe, it's sad to watch. 

I mean, like you, I'll vote for him for president over Trump. Hey, if nothing else, he'll be another president that makes George W. Bush look not-so-dumb by comparison. 

Biden is the most qualified presidential candidate to run since Hillary

Thank you. Establishment doesn’t see that in their fervor to destroy Bernie they are running another most qualified candidate to beat Trump. I mean just look at the polling data worked in 16.  The way I see it is Biden beats Bernie in the primaries but Biden doesn’t have a chance against Trump. i Hope I am wrong but it seems the DNC wants to make the same mistakes but justify themselves through every step this time around

There's no data that supports that conclusion.  Turnout surged in the states that Biden won.  He won in the suburbs, he won with the black community, middle age.  He crushed with women and ran even with white men. The demographics support the results.  It wasn't the "establishment", it was the Democratic voters. 

I'm still nervous about Joe because well he is creepy and sometimes incoherent.  

you misspelled trump

mrussel1 said:

I don't think you can underestimate how poorly HIllary did with white men.  Sanders dominated that vote in the primary and Trump in the general.  Biden has flipped that switch.  It's sexist in my opinion, but I can't change that.  The fact of the matter is that Biden's negatives are better than Hillary, Sanders and Trump.  That's important.  

mrussel1 said:

dignin said:

mrussel1 said:

I don't think you can underestimate how poorly HIllary did with white men.  Sanders dominated that vote in the primary and Trump in the general.  Biden has flipped that switch.  It's sexist in my opinion, but I can't change that.  The fact of the matter is that Biden's negatives are better than Hillary, Sanders and Trump.  That's important.  

How do you feel about Biden stating outright that he would only be a one term president? I personally think there is a lot of upside there.

I think it's the practical reality of the situation.  My guess is they will be polling that question or concerns about his age and let that inform the decision.  I confess to not knowing what the right strategy is here.  But I think he should only do one term. 

JimmyV said:

Announcing he would only serve one term would have Democrats soft launching campaigns to be next on Day 1. 

Spiritual_Chaos said:

JimmyV said:

Announcing he would only serve one term would have Democrats soft launching campaigns to be next on Day 1. 

Bernie would be first. Haha.

dignin said:

JimmyV said:

Announcing he would only serve one term would have Democrats soft launching campaigns to be next on Day 1. 

What's wrong with that?