Fan-to-Fan Ticket Exchange for Dummies

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  • tdawe
    tdawe Posts: 2,091
    Saltzy23 said:
    For the 500th time...

    Take 1/2 the arena and allocate the tickets via 10C members via the lotto.   Same rules as always.  Anyone caught scalping is banished for life.  All the "real" fans all have an equal chance at getting in for face value.

    Take the other 1/2 and sell it via TM sales where the buyers cam sell and transfer to their hearts content.  The people that didn't win or are able to afford paying market prices have an outlet to do so.

    Done.  Problem solved.


    What you’re describing here is pretty much the MSG show. 
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  • eddievedderspants
    eddievedderspants Posts: 236
    Saltzy23 said:
    For the 500th time...

    Take 1/2 the arena and allocate the tickets via 10C members via the lotto.   Same rules as always.  Anyone caught scalping is banished for life.  All the "real" fans all have an equal chance at getting in for face value.

    Take the other 1/2 and sell it via TM sales where the buyers cam sell and transfer to their hearts content.  The people that didn't win or are able to afford paying market prices have an outlet to do so.

    Done.  Problem solved.


    Problem not solved.  This tour, they allocated upwards of 60% of the arenas to the 10C and yet here we are, many long time fans (and more recent ones) missed out due to the numbers involved.  More shows, more dates are the only way to get more seats into the hands of more fans.  NOT stadiums, those suck.
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  • NDJeff7
    NDJeff7 Posts: 216
    jamesbrown1832 said:
    NDJeff7 said:
    So my wife has two Ottawa tix on the floor, so I'd like to buy 2 on the wings if they pop up. We are in the U.S. though, so you're saying that she won't be able to sell her Ottawa tix since we are in the U.S?
    Where on the floor? I have 2 on the side...maybe we could work a trade somehow.
    She has 2 in Section A. She's only 5'0'' and our daughter will be sitting with her, so she's worried about how well they'll be able to see. I'd love to work out a trade.....where on the side are you?
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,599
    Saltzy23 said:
    For the 500th time...

    Take 1/2 the arena and allocate the tickets via 10C members via the lotto.   Same rules as always.  Anyone caught scalping is banished for life.  All the "real" fans all have an equal chance at getting in for face value.

    Take the other 1/2 and sell it via TM sales where the buyers cam sell and transfer to their hearts content.  The people that didn't win or are able to afford paying market prices have an outlet to do so.

    Done.  Problem solved.


    What percentage of fans in places like Boston, NYC, Philly, Chicago, etc. is going to be accommodated by 1/2 of an arena?
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  • kid canada
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  • PJ N DC
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    given2fly23 said:
    Holy shit I just scored primo STL Tix! 101 Row N. Had to be lightning fast. Wow. Lost out on 101 W and 101 R yesterday. 
    Congrats!!!!  Did you use a phone or a computer to purchase?

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  • NDJeff7
    NDJeff7 Posts: 216
    Fan-to-Fan now isn't even an option for Ottawa......something going on
  • Roamarco711
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  • given2fly23
    given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 6,042
    edited February 2020
    PJ N DC said:
    given2fly23 said:
    Holy shit I just scored primo STL Tix! 101 Row N. Had to be lightning fast. Wow. Lost out on 101 W and 101 R yesterday. 
    Congrats!!!!  Did you use a phone or a computer to purchase?

    Thanks! Phone. I am obsessive, was refreshing non-stop every free minute I had since yesterday.  Lost out twice on tix in my cart yesterday.  Crazy thing is I ended up with probably exactly what we would have gotten if we got our 10C tix (124xxx).

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  • euchrid
    euchrid Posts: 895
    NDJeff7 said:
    Fan-to-Fan now isn't even an option for Ottawa......something going on
    They must be fixing the fees. Had been charging an extra $30 / ticket!
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,599
    NDJeff7 said:
    Fan-to-Fan now isn't even an option for Ottawa......something going on
    There have been problems with the exchange rate. It's probably only down temporarily while they work on it. 
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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,906
    Saltzy23 said:
    For the 500,th time...

    Take 1/2 the arena and allocate the tickets via 10C members via the lotto.   Same rules as always.  Anyone caught scalping is banished for life.  All the "real" fans all have an equal chance at getting in for face value.

    Take the other 1/2 and sell it via TM sales where the buyers can sell and transfer to their hearts content.  The people that didn't win or are able to afford paying market prices have an outlet to do so.

    Done.  Problem solved.


    So instead of an arena mostly full of fans who bought tix directly at face value.  You want to enable scalpers to make a mint off the bands work?

    This is why other bands are using tires pricing now so its not scalpers making all the money they should be making.

    If the goal is to sell tickets way below market value you need to control it.  Night and day difference between the shows that do and not support ticket transfer.

    It's not like band didn't get the tix in the hands of fans.  They did it so well theres not a bunch of people trying to ditch tickets.  

    I like what PJ did.  Fuck scalpers and fuck tired tick let pricing.
  • pjcord
    pjcord Posts: 78
    Pretty sure they've removed fan-2-fan for the Canadian shows ... it isn't an option for the shows that aren't sold out. Has to be the exchange rate issues regarding buyer/seller price discrepancy. And if so, hopefully it's an effort by PJ/TM to correct a computer error. 
  • Mac57
    Mac57 Posts: 372
    Also an issue with US sellers not having Canadian checking/debit account.
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  • DC188076
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    kid canada said:
    Annnd a pair in Nashville came and went
    It's incredible how fast this show goes. I think I've been thisclose many times.......
  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,325
    pjcord said:
    Pretty sure they've removed fan-2-fan for the Canadian shows ... it isn't an option for the shows that aren't sold out. Has to be the exchange rate issues regarding buyer/seller price discrepancy. And if so, hopefully it's an effort by PJ/TM to correct a computer error. 
    Not the case.
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  • Zod
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    eddievedderspants said:
    Saltzy23 said:
    For the 500th time...

    Take 1/2 the arena and allocate the tickets via 10C members via the lotto.   Same rules as always.  Anyone caught scalping is banished for life.  All the "real" fans all have an equal chance at getting in for face value.

    Take the other 1/2 and sell it via TM sales where the buyers cam sell and transfer to their hearts content.  The people that didn't win or are able to afford paying market prices have an outlet to do so.

    Done.  Problem solved.


    Problem not solved.  This tour, they allocated upwards of 60% of the arenas to the 10C and yet here we are, many long time fans (and more recent ones) missed out due to the numbers involved.  More shows, more dates are the only way to get more seats into the hands of more fans.  NOT stadiums, those suck.
    Except this is a band that doesn't do bigger tours.   When that's not an option what other solutions are there?

    I tend to think hybrid tours.  Stadiums for larger markets and arenas for smaller ones. 
  • Indifference
    Indifference Posts: 2,759
    pjcord said:
    Pretty sure they've removed fan-2-fan for the Canadian shows ... it isn't an option for the shows that aren't sold out. Has to be the exchange rate issues regarding buyer/seller price discrepancy. And if so, hopefully it's an effort by PJ/TM to correct a computer error. 

    Toronto pair was up 10 minutes ago.

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  • euchrid
    euchrid Posts: 895
    100 Pacer said:
    pjcord said:
    Pretty sure they've removed fan-2-fan for the Canadian shows ... it isn't an option for the shows that aren't sold out. Has to be the exchange rate issues regarding buyer/seller price discrepancy. And if so, hopefully it's an effort by PJ/TM to correct a computer error. 
    Not the case.
    They did for Ottawa. If you refresh the page the option for F2F is gone. Someone had messed up code or config somewhere and were charging the full face + fee amount for F2F and then adding fees on top.




  • UseUrIllusions
    UseUrIllusions Posts: 547
    pjcord said:
    Pretty sure they've removed fan-2-fan for the Canadian shows ... it isn't an option for the shows that aren't sold out. Has to be the exchange rate issues regarding buyer/seller price discrepancy. And if so, hopefully it's an effort by PJ/TM to correct a computer error. 
    I've seen a number of f2f for Toronto, numerous in the lower bowl. Keep checking, they go within 1min, and once they are in a cart they drop off. Lot more will appear closer to show date.
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