Is it safe to say that the Baltimore show is the hardest ticket to get in quite some time? I'm talking normal shows, not exclusive one-offs like the Apollo theater gig.
It's 'artificially' tough though.
The Apollo and Borgata were impossible because the venues were so small.
This is impossible because you can't buy any of the 14,000 seats anywhere, or even transfer them to someone else.
If there was a StubHub listing for this show it would what, probably a $250-$300 ticket just to get in roughly?
Expensive and hard to get no doubt, but its's this overall system that is making getting in so hard, not really the show itself.
I'd pay $300 for that show without blinking. I bet a stubhub ticket would start at $1000 without hte bat of an eye.
Dude, MSG is like a $500, plus fees show right now as far as 'just get me in' tickets and that that is the Super Bowl of what a regular PJ arena show could ever be as far as secondary market prices.
There is no way that Baltimore would ever be more than NYC (unless there were multiple shows at MSG maybe), and certainly not 2X more.
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Facebook has many more people looking to trade their MSG spare for a Baltimore spare than the other way around
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Is it safe to say that the Baltimore show is the hardest ticket to get in quite some time? I'm talking normal shows, not exclusive one-offs like the Apollo theater gig.
It's 'artificially' tough though.
The Apollo and Borgata were impossible because the venues were so small.
This is impossible because you can't buy any of the 14,000 seats anywhere, or even transfer them to someone else.
If there was a StubHub listing for this show it would what, probably a $250-$300 ticket just to get in roughly?
Expensive and hard to get no doubt, but its's this overall system that is making getting in so hard, not really the show itself.
I'd pay $300 for that show without blinking. I bet a stubhub ticket would start at $1000 without hte bat of an eye.
Dude, MSG is like a $500, plus fees show right now as far as 'just get me in' tickets and that that is the Super Bowl of what a regular PJ arena show could ever be as far as secondary market prices.
There is no way that Baltimore would ever be more than NYC (unless there were multiple shows at MSG maybe), and certainly not 2X more.
It is notable though that there are no behind the stage seats for Baltimore, nor (as far as I can tell) anything equivalent to the Chase Bridge (where I've never sat) or the barstools (which I have and they suck) which is where all of the $400-$500 tickets are. I do tend to agree with you that MSG would probably be more expensive in an apples-to-apples situation though.
They should add a DC show to the second leg to help with the East coast show shortage.
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They should add a DC show to the second leg to help with the East coast show shortage.
I think something in Ohio or Detroit as well as the usual Philly stop would have eased the demand a bit. Baltimore is the easiest show for everyone in Ohio, Detroit, Pennsylvania, etc.
I think they snuck the MSG show in this spring as the Sea.Hear.Now radius clause may have blocked a NYC show in the fall
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Is it safe to say that the Baltimore show is the hardest ticket to get in quite some time? I'm talking normal shows, not exclusive one-offs like the Apollo theater gig.
It's 'artificially' tough though.
The Apollo and Borgata are/were impossible because the venues were so small.
This is impossible because you can't buy any of the 14,000 seats anywhere, or even transfer them to someone else.
If there was a StubHub listing for this show it would what, probably a $250-$300 ticket just to get in roughly?
Expensive and hard to get no doubt, but it's this overall system that is making getting in impossible, not really the show itself.
I guess the question is, how many people who have tickets to this show are actually willing to sell them? Is only being able to sell them at face value forcing people to just suck it up and go to the show rather than using them to make a profit?
If these were available on StubHub, I would not be surprised in the least to see them listing for as much as MSG. Sure, the venue doesn't have the prestige of MSG (and Baltimore isn't NYC), but Baltimore is way easier to get to and stay in than NYC from places like Boston and Manchester. Sure, there's the Canadian shows, but flying into Baltimore is still way cheaper than Toronto or Quebec. And then, it's on a Saturday? Everyone who missed out in the lottery/VF Sale/General Public sale would be buying on StubHub. There'd be a handful of seats left at astronomical prices.
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Is it safe to say that the Baltimore show is the hardest ticket to get in quite some time? I'm talking normal shows, not exclusive one-offs like the Apollo theater gig.
It's 'artificially' tough though.
The Apollo and Borgata are/were impossible because the venues were so small.
This is impossible because you can't buy any of the 14,000 seats anywhere, or even transfer them to someone else.
If there was a StubHub listing for this show it would what, probably a $250-$300 ticket just to get in roughly?
Expensive and hard to get no doubt, but it's this overall system that is making getting in impossible, not really the show itself.
I guess the question is, how many people who have tickets to this show are actually willing to sell them? Is only being able to sell them at face value forcing people to just suck it up and go to the show rather than using them to make a profit?
If these were available on StubHub, I would not be surprised in the least to see them listing for as much as MSG. Sure, the venue doesn't have the prestige of MSG (and Baltimore isn't NYC), but Baltimore is way easier to get to and stay in than NYC from places like Boston and Manchester. Sure, there's the Canadian shows, but flying into Baltimore is still way cheaper than Toronto or Quebec. And then, it's on a Saturday? Everyone who missed out in the lottery/VF Sale/General Public sale would be buying on StubHub. There'd be a handful of seats left at astronomical prices.
I think the theory is not that more fans would be selling if they could sell above face, but that in an initial sale for freely transferable Baltimore tickets more brokers would have snapped up tickets for resale. Which is why, as sympathetic as I am to people who are frustrated by their inability to pay a scalper for tickets to this show, I believe that overall it's a better system.
Baltimore on a Saturday night was the perfect trip from Boston. Can either drive or fly and, thanks to Dimi's hints, we booked a hotel weeks in advance. MSG on a Monday meant burning vacation days. It was a nonstarter for me this time.
Is it safe to say that the Baltimore show is the hardest ticket to get in quite some time? I'm talking normal shows, not exclusive one-offs like the Apollo theater gig.
It's 'artificially' tough though.
The Apollo and Borgata are/were impossible because the venues were so small.
This is impossible because you can't buy any of the 14,000 seats anywhere, or even transfer them to someone else.
If there was a StubHub listing for this show it would what, probably a $250-$300 ticket just to get in roughly?
Expensive and hard to get no doubt, but it's this overall system that is making getting in impossible, not really the show itself.
I guess the question is, how many people who have tickets to this show are actually willing to sell them? Is only being able to sell them at face value forcing people to just suck it up and go to the show rather than using them to make a profit?
If these were available on StubHub, I would not be surprised in the least to see them listing for as much as MSG. Sure, the venue doesn't have the prestige of MSG (and Baltimore isn't NYC), but Baltimore is way easier to get to and stay in than NYC from places like Boston and Manchester. Sure, there's the Canadian shows, but flying into Baltimore is still way cheaper than Toronto or Quebec. And then, it's on a Saturday? Everyone who missed out in the lottery/VF Sale/General Public sale would be buying on StubHub. There'd be a handful of seats left at astronomical prices.
I think the theory is not that more fans would be selling if they could sell above face, but that in an initial sale for freely transferable Baltimore tickets more brokers would have snapped up tickets for resale. Which is why, as sympathetic as I am to people who are frustrated by their inability to pay a scalper for tickets to this show, I believe that overall it's a better system.
I agree. I think we're not seeing a lot because the demand is still so high - tickets are snatched up as soon as they're listed, and there aren't many people looking to sell, because actual fans got the tickets. It's no different than if tickets were on StubHub, but were sold out. People were able to skip the middle man of StubHub/scalpers.
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"He made the deal with the devil, we get to play with him. He goes to hell, of course. We're going to heaven."
Is it safe to say that the Baltimore show is the hardest ticket to get in quite some time? I'm talking normal shows, not exclusive one-offs like the Apollo theater gig.
It's 'artificially' tough though.
The Apollo and Borgata are/were impossible because the venues were so small.
This is impossible because you can't buy any of the 14,000 seats anywhere, or even transfer them to someone else.
If there was a StubHub listing for this show it would what, probably a $250-$300 ticket just to get in roughly?
Expensive and hard to get no doubt, but it's this overall system that is making getting in impossible, not really the show itself.
I guess the question is, how many people who have tickets to this show are actually willing to sell them? Is only being able to sell them at face value forcing people to just suck it up and go to the show rather than using them to make a profit?
If these were available on StubHub, I would not be surprised in the least to see them listing for as much as MSG. Sure, the venue doesn't have the prestige of MSG (and Baltimore isn't NYC), but Baltimore is way easier to get to and stay in than NYC from places like Boston and Manchester. Sure, there's the Canadian shows, but flying into Baltimore is still way cheaper than Toronto or Quebec. And then, it's on a Saturday? Everyone who missed out in the lottery/VF Sale/General Public sale would be buying on StubHub. There'd be a handful of seats left at astronomical prices.
I think the theory is not that more fans would be selling if they could sell above face, but that in an initial sale for freely transferable Baltimore tickets more brokers would have snapped up tickets for resale. Which is why, as sympathetic as I am to people who are frustrated by their inability to pay a scalper for tickets to this show, I believe that overall it's a better system.
I agree. I think we're not seeing a lot because the demand is still so high - tickets are snatched up as soon as they're listed, and there aren't many people looking to sell, because actual fans got the tickets. It's no different than if tickets were on StubHub, but were sold out. People were able to skip the middle man of StubHub/scalpers.
I sure hope it's fans getting most of these. There still are some broker sites listing tix.
Balt tix just came up. BofA text code is ridiculous... lost them. argg!
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Is it safe to say that the Baltimore show is the hardest ticket to get in quite some time? I'm talking normal shows, not exclusive one-offs like the Apollo theater gig.
It's 'artificially' tough though.
The Apollo and Borgata are/were impossible because the venues were so small.
This is impossible because you can't buy any of the 14,000 seats anywhere, or even transfer them to someone else.
If there was a StubHub listing for this show it would what, probably a $250-$300 ticket just to get in roughly?
Expensive and hard to get no doubt, but it's this overall system that is making getting in impossible, not really the show itself.
I guess the question is, how many people who have tickets to this show are actually willing to sell them? Is only being able to sell them at face value forcing people to just suck it up and go to the show rather than using them to make a profit?
If these were available on StubHub, I would not be surprised in the least to see them listing for as much as MSG. Sure, the venue doesn't have the prestige of MSG (and Baltimore isn't NYC), but Baltimore is way easier to get to and stay in than NYC from places like Boston and Manchester. Sure, there's the Canadian shows, but flying into Baltimore is still way cheaper than Toronto or Quebec. And then, it's on a Saturday? Everyone who missed out in the lottery/VF Sale/General Public sale would be buying on StubHub. There'd be a handful of seats left at astronomical prices.
I think the theory is not that more fans would be selling if they could sell above face, but that in an initial sale for freely transferable Baltimore tickets more brokers would have snapped up tickets for resale. Which is why, as sympathetic as I am to people who are frustrated by their inability to pay a scalper for tickets to this show, I believe that overall it's a better system.
I agree. I think we're not seeing a lot because the demand is still so high - tickets are snatched up as soon as they're listed, and there aren't many people looking to sell, because actual fans got the tickets. It's no different than if tickets were on StubHub, but were sold out. People were able to skip the middle man of StubHub/scalpers.
I sure hope it's fans getting most of these. There still are some broker sites listing tix.
It always makes me click twice on the delivery method selection before being able to choose payment method. Is that a Chrome issue? I feel like that extra click is costing me precious time!
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There is no way that Baltimore would ever be more than NYC (unless there were multiple shows at MSG maybe), and certainly not 2X more.
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I think they snuck the MSG show in this spring as the Sea.Hear.Now radius clause may have blocked a NYC show in the fall
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I agree. I think we're not seeing a lot because the demand is still so high - tickets are snatched up as soon as they're listed, and there aren't many people looking to sell, because actual fans got the tickets. It's no different than if tickets were on StubHub, but were sold out. People were able to skip the middle man of StubHub/scalpers.
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It always makes me click twice on the delivery method selection before being able to choose payment method. Is that a Chrome issue? I feel like that extra click is costing me precious time!
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