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  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    so Trudeau is in winnipeg for a few days. he posts a pic of himself loading up on Oh Doughnuts (local gourmet donut shop here) for today's meetings and the never-Trudeau-ers are losing their shit. 

    US: armed militia walking the streets of Virginia, impeachment trial starting of the US president
    Canada: Trudeau bought expensive donuts! resign! 

    LOL
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  • Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    so Trudeau is in winnipeg for a few days. he posts a pic of himself loading up on Oh Doughnuts (local gourmet donut shop here) for today's meetings and the never-Trudeau-ers are losing their shit. 

    US: armed militia walking the streets of Virginia, impeachment trial starting of the US president
    Canada: Trudeau bought expensive donuts! resign! 

    LOL

    I'm assuming they wanted him to get Tim's.
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  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    oftenreading said:
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    I'm assuming they wanted him to get Tim's.
    they did. that was mentioned. But why they'd prefer he buy an inferior product from a successful chain that doesn't need the business or the exposure that has a history of treating its employees like garbage instead of purchasing local is beyond me. 
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  • Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    People don’t necessarily think things through ;)
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  • Toronto Posts: 2,982
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    so Trudeau is in winnipeg for a few days. he posts a pic of himself loading up on Oh Doughnuts (local gourmet donut shop here) for today's meetings and the never-Trudeau-ers are losing their shit. 

    US: armed militia walking the streets of Virginia, impeachment trial starting of the US president
    Canada: Trudeau bought expensive donuts! resign! 

    LOL
    I think my views on the man are well-established here, but I had a good laugh at the coverage, especially when all the commentators assumed that the $47 dozen doughnuts were bought (which apparently they weren’t), lol. Then again, we were supposed to be outraged over Bev Oda’s $18 OJ not so long ago, lol. Glad to see the PM supporting local businesses, but did he need to bring the photographer and tweet it? I guess it wouldn’t be Trudeau if he didn’t (and he’s the one to blame for my low expectations on that, lol).

    On another subject, I was happy to see the headline today that Trudeau has ruled out a “prisoner swap” with the Huawei princess. Now for some concrete action to get the 2 Michaels home other than asking our allies to ask for us.

    Last, totally out of left field, can we please stop with the incessant coverage of Harry and Meghan?!?
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

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  • Toronto Posts: 2,982
    Hope this is a believeable source, lol.  Quite troubling reading this, while not tampering with a jury or bribing a judge, it feels like an attempt at subverting our justice system (or at the least how the story is reported which already happened) and we need much more information on this as to the initiator of the "supporters".  Not sure which would be the better outcome, if it came from Huawei or the Chinese state.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/paid-protesters-meng-wanzhou-1.5434613
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

    10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
  • Toronto Posts: 2,982
    So the bus I was on was outside the restaurant when this happened.  Thought the gunshots were the bus driving over/into something or kids throwing ice at the bus. Don't know if the bus was hit but the driver saw enough to be a witness  and no one on the bus was hurt. 40 years in Toronto and this is a first for me,  thankfully. 

    https://globalnews.ca/news/6463256/fatal-scarborough-shooting/

    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

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  • None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739


    Yup.  He gave MasterCard 50 million even though MasterCard made 16 billion last year.  He is the dumbest PM Canada has ever had.  He definitely inherited his momma's genes...not his Dads...
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  • Toronto Posts: 2,982
    In continuing to give the government credit when it’s due, I’m glad to (finally) read that returnees from China will be quarantined at CFB Trenton. I was getting nervous that they were only talking about “stringent screening measures”, which would only go so far in my opinion.

    Now if only local politicians would stop browbeating us over what I’m calling “presumptive racism”, but this does give an opportunity for some strong virtue signalling.
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

    10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
  • Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    oftenreading said:
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    I'm assuming they wanted him to get Tim's.
    Yes, which isn't even a Canadian company anymore, and has inferior donuts, while the place he went to is a Canadian small business. The silliness grows everyday!
    If this is the worst people can come up with right now, I'm feeling pretty good about things, lol.
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  • Posts: 1,849
    PJ_Soul said:
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    Yes, which isn't even a Canadian company anymore, and has inferior donuts, while the place he went to is a Canadian small business. The silliness grows everyday!
    If this is the worst people can come up with right now, I'm feeling pretty good about things, lol.
    +1 
    I couldn't believe my eyes when I read the story. I think I read it twice. I was like "wait.... wait. People are upset because he supported local business as opposed to Tim Horton's?"  

    We live within a saturation of stupidity. 
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  • Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Welcome to the thread, Parksy. We need new blood.

    Not that we're out for blood or anything here...
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  • Toronto Posts: 2,982
    Wow, this is how not to conduct and write an interview, fortunately the author tells us in the first two paragraphs why they have no business being the interviewer (and yet they pressed on and the editors published).

    https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/lunch-with-chrystia-freeland-we-liberals-have-had-a-rude-awakening

    Hey, I figured out how to post links on my phone (finally), lol!
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

    10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
  • Toronto Posts: 2,982
    Finally had to email CBC as to why they aren’t allowing comments on any of the stories around all these “solidarity” protests. They allow comments on all their anti-Trump articles and many others, but not this one. At least Global has a boilerplate justification when they close commenting on a given story (citing legalities, but I suspect it’s more to keep unwelcome viewpoints out, namely the more racist (or whichever-ist applies)).

    More troubling to me, though is the apparent unwillingness of the OPP to enforce the law. The longer this (now) illegal protest goes on, the greater the risk of violence exploding when the LEGAL authorities finally move in. I hope when they do the police provide a list of names to CN and Via so they (and those who’ve been fucked over and missed things like funerals) can sue the protesters for loss of income and so on.

    The more this is sat on by the authorities, the worse things will become moving forward.

    And please don’t get me wrong, I fully support the right to protest peacefully, even when I don’t agree, but this isn’t that at this point, in my opinion.
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

    10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
  • Toronto Posts: 2,982
    Ok, now this is just getting ridiculous, makes me think of that saying about people getting the government (or lack of in this case) in a democracy.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cn-rail-shutdown-1.5463266
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

    10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
  • Posts: 9,478
    DarthMaeglin said:
    Ok, now this is just getting ridiculous, makes me think of that saying about people getting the government (or lack of in this case) in a democracy.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cn-rail-shutdown-1.5463266
    Protest is a sign of a healthy democracy. As long as it's peaceful I'm not going to get too worked up about it. These protesters reflect a large portion of the population and I think it's admirable to put themselves on the line like they do.
  • Toronto Posts: 2,982
    dignin said:
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    Protest is a sign of a healthy democracy. As long as it's peaceful I'm not going to get too worked up about it. These protesters reflect a large portion of the population and I think it's admirable to put themselves on the line like they do.
    You actually touched on an aspect of this that’s been bothering me. For starters I’ll clarify that I don’t consider the blockades as protest but rather as civil disobedience. But one aspect of civil disobedience is that one recognizes their acts are contrary to law and there’s the potential (some might suggest a certainty) of legal consequences for those participating. Thus far the scofflaws are apparently being shielded (or at least treated with kid gloves) by the legal authorities.

    Organize a march or gather at legislatures or politicians offices and I have no issues. I’ll even  allow those to happen without the legal permits.

    For a couple decades I engaged in civil disobedience by smoking pot. The whole time I knew there could be some consequences for doing so.

    I’m glad to read that those Indigenous people in B.C. that support this pipeline are starting to speak up despite apparent intimidation from some in their communities.
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

    10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
  • Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    DarthMaeglin said:
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    You actually touched on an aspect of this that’s been bothering me. For starters I’ll clarify that I don’t consider the blockades as protest but rather as civil disobedience. But one aspect of civil disobedience is that one recognizes their acts are contrary to law and there’s the potential (some might suggest a certainty) of legal consequences for those participating. Thus far the scofflaws are apparently being shielded (or at least treated with kid gloves) by the legal authorities.

    Organize a march or gather at legislatures or politicians offices and I have no issues. I’ll even  allow those to happen without the legal permits.

    For a couple decades I engaged in civil disobedience by smoking pot. The whole time I knew there could be some consequences for doing so.

    I’m glad to read that those Indigenous people in B.C. that support this pipeline are starting to speak up despite apparent intimidation from some in their communities.
    Civil disobedience is one form of protest, so it makes no sense to say that you consider these actions civil disobedience but not protest. When you refer to marches or gatherings, these are just different forms of protest, and they can also be civil disobedience, depending on where the march or gathering is. 

    Second, I highly doubt you smoked pot with the goal of being arrested in order to highlight some political cause, so no, you probably didn’t perform an act of civil disobedience, you just liked smoking pot. 
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  • Toronto Posts: 2,982
    My pot comparison wasn’t the best I admit, I was trying to make the point that I knew there could be serious (criminal record) repercussions for my choice of action. At the moment the blockaders are being allowed to act with impunity and literally burn the law.

     I didn’t realize I wasn’t recognizing civil disobedience as a form of protest, it absolutely is, but it’s one that has a good likelihood of legal consequences for the protesters. In my mind a peaceful gathering of citizens to protest (or even celebrate, lol) a cause should never have to face the nightsticks, so to speak. Blockading someone else’s land and depriving people of their livelihoods (to say nothing of those “inconvenienced” like missing funerals) is far from a peaceful gathering in my opinion, and should only be allowed to persist for a short time. In my opinion we passed the line around day 2 or 3, definitely once the injunction was granted.
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

    10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
  • Toronto Posts: 2,982
    Watching the “emergency debate” through the cpac website, it’s pathetic how few MPs actually showed up, all parties just to be clear. Then again, this seems like it’s going nowhere.
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

    10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022

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