Question about selling tickets and "walking in together".

gotthebottle said:

so all the ISO threads are pretty much a waste of time....

I think so.  There’s a show or two I’d like to still buy for, but I’m not even bothering to check or post on the ISO.  Exchange, ticket drop, or bust.

LYacky said:

It's kinda disappointing that you can't legally transfer your tiks through the Fan 2 Fan Exchange between someone of your own choosing. I mean seriously, if you have a friend or family member who wants to purchase your tik(s) from you at face value or, God forbid you want to gift someone with your tik you should be able to do so in the exchange without hassle or penalty. Tik holders should be able to trade their tiks with other tik holders if they want to switch seats etc. I mean really, what's the big deal there? Nobody is profiting from it and it's a private transaction between the two parties. 🤷‍♀️

Well, because people could easily profit from it. If you can pick who to send the tickets to, you just made a scalper's life a whole lot easier for every show.

gotthebottle said:

So... all the mechanism to prevent the big bad resellers from making a profit have also prevented the true fans from buying tickets to a show from someone with an extra who wants to sell it to them. I'm not convinced this is better....

It really hasn't prevented it.  I have a ticket buddy for Toronto that I have never met.  We are meeting in Toronto and she will give me the money for her ticket.  It's not that different from how it used to be.  Instead of selling my ticket buddy a hard ticket that I picked up from 10c willcall I am selling an extra digital ticket and we will walk in together.  

BennyLaRue said:

LYacky said:

It's kinda disappointing that you can't legally transfer your tiks through the Fan 2 Fan Exchange between someone of your own choosing. I mean seriously, if you have a friend or family member who wants to purchase your tik(s) from you at face value or, God forbid you want to gift someone with your tik you should be able to do so in the exchange without hassle or penalty. Tik holders should be able to trade their tiks with other tik holders if they want to switch seats etc. I mean really, what's the big deal there? Nobody is profiting from it and it's a private transaction between the two parties. 🤷‍♀️

Well, because people could easily profit from it. If you can pick who to send the tickets to, you just made a scalper's life a whole lot easier for every show.

I'm talking about a sale or a tik swap through the Fan 2 Fan Exchange so nobody can profit from it. You'd be selling that tik to your friend or family member through the exchange for the original tik price, nothing more. As for a direct tik swap (my seats for your seat or my date for your date) you'd literally be just transferring the tiks from one person to the other through the Fan 2 Fan system with no money exchanged. Anyways it's just a thought. 

LYacky said:

BennyLaRue said:

LYacky said:

It's kinda disappointing that you can't legally transfer your tiks through the Fan 2 Fan Exchange between someone of your own choosing. I mean seriously, if you have a friend or family member who wants to purchase your tik(s) from you at face value or, God forbid you want to gift someone with your tik you should be able to do so in the exchange without hassle or penalty. Tik holders should be able to trade their tiks with other tik holders if they want to switch seats etc. I mean really, what's the big deal there? Nobody is profiting from it and it's a private transaction between the two parties. 🤷‍♀️

Well, because people could easily profit from it. If you can pick who to send the tickets to, you just made a scalper's life a whole lot easier for every show.

I'm talking about a sale or a tik swap through the Fan 2 Fan Exchange so nobody can profit from it. You'd be selling that tik to your friend or family member through the exchange for the original tik price, nothing more. As for a direct tik swap (my seats for your seat or my date for your date) you'd literally be just transferring the tiks from one person to the other through the Fan 2 Fan system with no money exchanged. Anyways it's just a thought. 

There would still be side deals though forcing you to pay extra to get access to those tickets from scalpers. Of course being able to transfer to a family or friend would be great but it would be easily abused. Also would you not trust your family member with your TM account? I would. 

If I was setting up a meet up beforehand, and I was the one with the tickets, I would only deal with people here with decent post counts, and want to swap cell #'s and hope that they actually show up at a scheduled time. I wouldn't do any money exchanges ahead of time. If I was the ISO, I'd request the seller use the same steps I suggested, but if they wanted a deposit, I'd mail them a certified check for 50% as a hold ahead of time. At least there would be a paper trail of a money exchange if something went sour.

I had an interesting experience during the 2016 Toronto shows. I lost out on the lottery for the first show and wasn’t around to attempt for the second show. A fellow fan pointed me in the direction of a Porch member offering to sell a GA ticket for the first show *only* if his upper bowl nosebleed ticket for the second show was also purchased. My plan was simple: pay face value for both and sell the second show nosebleed for half price - taking the loss was the cost of obtaining the GA. I agreed to meet the seller at the venue at a specific time but was made to wait over 90 minutes - the seller explaining he decided to walk from the hotel and explore the city. I handed over the cash for both tickets but only received the GA. I figured if the seller wanted to hold the ticket hostage at that point I was just fed up with being made to wait. The next afternoon the same story, agreed to meet at a specific time but was still made to wait over 90 minutes. As it turned out another Porch member who had been travelling the entire leg of the tour agreed to meet and purchase the nosebleed for half price so he was waiting with me. When the seller walked up late I explained the situation - that I wasn’t using the nosebleed but introduced him to the buyer who I explained paid half price and I took the hit. Seller seemed taken aback for some strange reason but grudgingly handed over the ticket. Fast foreword to the show and the seller began sending threatening, violent, homophobic texts attacking me for “scheming” and “screwing him over for the GA.” The vast majority of trade partners here are excellent but a few bad eggs ruin it for the rest of us. Just do your homework and you’ll be fine.

gotthebottle said:

Horse2345 said:

PearlJamFanLV said:

Funny you mention that.  I've been a member for years and have always used my tickets for myself, family, or friends.  Never sold any.  But may have to sell 2 tickets to a show this time, not looking to rape anyone, but I've invested money for the last 20+ years on the 10c and would to finally reap something from it.  Always willing to help a fellow 10c member, especially one that got screwed with the new lottery system.

@kat @sea time to boot him/her out 

he hasn't done anything yet...hasn't sold any tickets 

Just asking for above face value on here is a big no-no. 

Horse2345 said:

PearlJamFanLV said:

Funny you mention that.  I've been a member for years and have always used my tickets for myself, family, or friends.  Never sold any.  But may have to sell 2 tickets to a show this time, not looking to rape anyone, but I've invested money for the last 20+ years on the 10c and would to finally reap something from it.  Always willing to help a fellow 10c member, especially one that got screwed with the new lottery system.

@kat @sea time to boot him/her out 

gotthebottle said:

Horse2345 said:

PearlJamFanLV said:

Funny you mention that.  I've been a member for years and have always used my tickets for myself, family, or friends.  Never sold any.  But may have to sell 2 tickets to a show this time, not looking to rape anyone, but I've invested money for the last 20+ years on the 10c and would to finally reap something from it.  Always willing to help a fellow 10c member, especially one that got screwed with the new lottery system.

@kat @sea time to boot him/her out 

he hasn't done anything yet...hasn't sold any tickets 

No, but someone who doesn't realize that posting on someone's wall posts it to activity. Someone doesn't care. Someone is messaging about them.