The Democratic Presidential Debates

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  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
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    Ugh. I think Joe just got banana brain re-elected.

    So you and these twitter users have taken these young ladies' agency, and determined how they feel about these events?  How very paternalistic of you.  

    M- I was referring to Joe  kissing his granddaughter on the lips full on.

    Isnt that gonna creep out swing state voters?
    I sometimes kiss my daughter on the lips.  I don't have a grand daughter, so I can't say if that will continue when that day comes.  Considering the last round of this smear six months ago didn't really hurt him, I don't think this will either.  My point was to SC who posts this crap all the time, and it's a serious one.  Who are these twitter users (or him) to decide if any of this is wrong or gross?  If the women are fine, then nothing inappropriate happened.  How do we know that right before that video with the graduate she didn't say.. can you kiss my cheek?  We don't.  The way these twitter douchers spam this is absolutely paternalistic. 

    And to your point, what does 'full on' mean?  It's a photo.  Again, if you used stop action photography and froze my kiss to one of my daughters, it would look like that.  It's not like they are frenching. 
    Plenty of women Biden touches aren't fine with it. https://www.thecut.com/2019/04/joe-biden-accuser-accusations-allegations.html
    And since that dust up in the summer, Biden has said he will be mindful that the environment has changed.  And I have not seen anyone lodge a complaint.  So how about these twitter fucks speak for themselves only, and not for his granddaughter or the young lady with the cap and gown.  Unless you and these others think that they are too weak to speak for how they feel.  Then you can step in and play dad for them.  
    Hahahaha dying on the Joe Biden isn't a creep despite a lot of video evidence hill again are we?

    Look - it won;t matter in the general election as he is less creepy than Trump...but that creepiness sure bothers me enough to drop him to .... maybe 4th on my list?  But I'm not the Dem primary target audience so we will see how much my opinion and those like me actually matters anyhow ;)
    And you're still dying on the vine of being able to ascribe motives to people and choose what's appropriate for woman.  So neither of us have moved evidently.  
    Because we all know women never (wisely) refrain from pointing out that powerful men did something inappropriate 
    Ah... so that young lady in the cap and gown is too scared to report her 'assault'.  Fascinating little argument you've constructed.  If they report it, ah ha!  If they don't, yeah it's how they feel but they are just weak women.  You can't lose!  The reporting and non-reporting both make you right.  Genius. 
    GTFO with the "weak women" nonsense. Even you aren't so naive not to recognize the disincentive for women to make public statements about powerful men's behavior. 
    Right, because in today's world, that young African American girl would have been vilified in the media and probably lost all future job opportunities if she said she was uncomfortable with the kiss.  Is that your argument?  I just want to be sure I'm understanding where your paternalism is originating.  
    I'm making no argument about the girl in that picture. Haven't said a word about her. 
    Well that's what precipitated the whole discussion.  That post and the one of his granddaughter.  
    Your point is? Maybe try keeping track of who says what. Might help you avoid becoming so confused. 
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
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    pjl44 said:
    Vodka drinkers?


    Scotch is bad for your liver
    Shut your lying mouth.
    BTW, is it true that brown liquor is worse than clear?  I always thought it to be, but maybe that's just a rumor... like Mikey and pop rocks. 
    That's what they say. When I drink, which is getting more rare these days, I drink rye.

    I've rarely been drunk on scotch, it's waaaaay too expensive. But I love it, best for sipping with a drop or two of water and nothing else. I like to keep multiple bottles behind the bar, but it takes me years to finish them and they are fun to share with guests.

    As an aside, I find the best for me now is to eat a moderate amount of edibles before heading out for the night. It really keeps the drinking down so as to avoid a hangover.
    Edible and 3 drinks over a few hours is perfect for me.  No hangover whatsoever.  
    Exactly. It's a great hack.
  • Bernie aint no Dino. He just wants to leave the 50s with Biden making out with his own mom and take you guys Back to the Future like:


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    ecdanc said:
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    Ugh. I think Joe just got banana brain re-elected.

    So you and these twitter users have taken these young ladies' agency, and determined how they feel about these events?  How very paternalistic of you.  

    M- I was referring to Joe  kissing his granddaughter on the lips full on.

    Isnt that gonna creep out swing state voters?
    I sometimes kiss my daughter on the lips.  I don't have a grand daughter, so I can't say if that will continue when that day comes.  Considering the last round of this smear six months ago didn't really hurt him, I don't think this will either.  My point was to SC who posts this crap all the time, and it's a serious one.  Who are these twitter users (or him) to decide if any of this is wrong or gross?  If the women are fine, then nothing inappropriate happened.  How do we know that right before that video with the graduate she didn't say.. can you kiss my cheek?  We don't.  The way these twitter douchers spam this is absolutely paternalistic. 

    And to your point, what does 'full on' mean?  It's a photo.  Again, if you used stop action photography and froze my kiss to one of my daughters, it would look like that.  It's not like they are frenching. 
    Plenty of women Biden touches aren't fine with it. https://www.thecut.com/2019/04/joe-biden-accuser-accusations-allegations.html
    And since that dust up in the summer, Biden has said he will be mindful that the environment has changed.  And I have not seen anyone lodge a complaint.  So how about these twitter fucks speak for themselves only, and not for his granddaughter or the young lady with the cap and gown.  Unless you and these others think that they are too weak to speak for how they feel.  Then you can step in and play dad for them.  
    Hahahaha dying on the Joe Biden isn't a creep despite a lot of video evidence hill again are we?

    Look - it won;t matter in the general election as he is less creepy than Trump...but that creepiness sure bothers me enough to drop him to .... maybe 4th on my list?  But I'm not the Dem primary target audience so we will see how much my opinion and those like me actually matters anyhow ;)
    And you're still dying on the vine of being able to ascribe motives to people and choose what's appropriate for woman.  So neither of us have moved evidently.  
    Because we all know women never (wisely) refrain from pointing out that powerful men did something inappropriate 
    Ah... so that young lady in the cap and gown is too scared to report her 'assault'.  Fascinating little argument you've constructed.  If they report it, ah ha!  If they don't, yeah it's how they feel but they are just weak women.  You can't lose!  The reporting and non-reporting both make you right.  Genius. 
    GTFO with the "weak women" nonsense. Even you aren't so naive not to recognize the disincentive for women to make public statements about powerful men's behavior. 
    Right, because in today's world, that young African American girl would have been vilified in the media and probably lost all future job opportunities if she said she was uncomfortable with the kiss.  Is that your argument?  I just want to be sure I'm understanding where your paternalism is originating.  
    I'm making no argument about the girl in that picture. Haven't said a word about her. 
    Well that's what precipitated the whole discussion.  That post and the one of his granddaughter.  
    Your point is? Maybe try keeping track of who says what. Might help you avoid becoming so confused. 
    You're just so bad at public arguments.  I think you're just used to your bubble of everyone thinking just like you.  How do you not understand my point?  My point is about these two posts by SC.  It has been the start.
  • I just want to say. I regret posting pics of Joes krazy-kissing if it meant you two starting to bicker like this. It breaks my heart.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
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    Ugh. I think Joe just got banana brain re-elected.

    So you and these twitter users have taken these young ladies' agency, and determined how they feel about these events?  How very paternalistic of you.  

    M- I was referring to Joe  kissing his granddaughter on the lips full on.

    Isnt that gonna creep out swing state voters?
    I sometimes kiss my daughter on the lips.  I don't have a grand daughter, so I can't say if that will continue when that day comes.  Considering the last round of this smear six months ago didn't really hurt him, I don't think this will either.  My point was to SC who posts this crap all the time, and it's a serious one.  Who are these twitter users (or him) to decide if any of this is wrong or gross?  If the women are fine, then nothing inappropriate happened.  How do we know that right before that video with the graduate she didn't say.. can you kiss my cheek?  We don't.  The way these twitter douchers spam this is absolutely paternalistic. 

    And to your point, what does 'full on' mean?  It's a photo.  Again, if you used stop action photography and froze my kiss to one of my daughters, it would look like that.  It's not like they are frenching. 
    Plenty of women Biden touches aren't fine with it. https://www.thecut.com/2019/04/joe-biden-accuser-accusations-allegations.html
    And since that dust up in the summer, Biden has said he will be mindful that the environment has changed.  And I have not seen anyone lodge a complaint.  So how about these twitter fucks speak for themselves only, and not for his granddaughter or the young lady with the cap and gown.  Unless you and these others think that they are too weak to speak for how they feel.  Then you can step in and play dad for them.  
    Hahahaha dying on the Joe Biden isn't a creep despite a lot of video evidence hill again are we?

    Look - it won;t matter in the general election as he is less creepy than Trump...but that creepiness sure bothers me enough to drop him to .... maybe 4th on my list?  But I'm not the Dem primary target audience so we will see how much my opinion and those like me actually matters anyhow ;)
    And you're still dying on the vine of being able to ascribe motives to people and choose what's appropriate for woman.  So neither of us have moved evidently.  
    Because we all know women never (wisely) refrain from pointing out that powerful men did something inappropriate 
    Ah... so that young lady in the cap and gown is too scared to report her 'assault'.  Fascinating little argument you've constructed.  If they report it, ah ha!  If they don't, yeah it's how they feel but they are just weak women.  You can't lose!  The reporting and non-reporting both make you right.  Genius. 
    GTFO with the "weak women" nonsense. Even you aren't so naive not to recognize the disincentive for women to make public statements about powerful men's behavior. 
    Right, because in today's world, that young African American girl would have been vilified in the media and probably lost all future job opportunities if she said she was uncomfortable with the kiss.  Is that your argument?  I just want to be sure I'm understanding where your paternalism is originating.  
    I'm making no argument about the girl in that picture. Haven't said a word about her. 
    Well that's what precipitated the whole discussion.  That post and the one of his granddaughter.  
    Your point is? Maybe try keeping track of who says what. Might help you avoid becoming so confused. 
    You're just so bad at public arguments.  I think you're just used to your bubble of everyone thinking just like you.  How do you not understand my point?  My point is about these two posts by SC.  It has been the start.
    You're right: in my bubble, most people say "my bad" if you say "umm, you're accusing me of saying something I didn't say." 


  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,834
    I'm beginning to think that Biden could inappropriately kiss/touch/smell a girl on 5th avenue and get away with it!
    hippiemom = goodness
  • I'm beginning to think that Biden could inappropriately kiss/touch/smell a girl on 5th avenue and get away with it!
    Haha. Made me laugh.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    I'm beginning to think that Biden could inappropriately kiss/touch/smell a girl on 5th avenue and get away with it!
    I think it'll be a yuge topic if he gets the nomination.  Somehow rapey Trump will be treated better than creepy Joe.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,470
    edited February 2020
    MACH I: sleepy joe
    MACH II: creepy joe
    MACH III: Losing-because-of-being-the-status-quo joe
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    I just want to say. I regret posting pics of Joes krazy-kissing if it meant you two starting to bicker like this. It breaks my heart.
    It doesn't take much to get that started.  I prefer to discuss legitimate issues. 
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    mrussel1 said:
    I just want to say. I regret posting pics of Joes krazy-kissing if it meant you two starting to bicker like this. It breaks my heart.
    It doesn't take much to get that started.  I prefer to discuss legitimate issues. 
    How the candidates treat women is a legitimate issue. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,470
    edited February 2020
    Democratic socialists treat on average women a lot better than right-wing capitalism jerkers. No disputing that. It's simple MATH.

    So let's go!
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    brianlux said:
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    =/=  ? 

    Is that equal divided by equal? 

    Would that be the same as infinity or zero? 

    MATH I'm good with but math is not my strong suit.  :lol:
    So you are saying MATH =/= math 

    Well, no, more like Ecdanc's Equation leads me to thinking, as in "Make America Think Harder", about a subject I am not so strong in- which is math.  The best I could come up with is either "equal divided by equal = infinity"  or "equal divided by equal = zero."  But now that I think HARDER about it (which is difficult to do at 1:10 AM in the AM), I have a feeling the answer to "equal divided by equal" may be one.  Man oh man, I am going to need some good strong coffee in about 7 hours.
    It means ”not equal to”

    The sign for "not equal to is "≠".


    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    =/=  ? 

    Is that equal divided by equal? 

    Would that be the same as infinity or zero? 

    MATH I'm good with but math is not my strong suit.  :lol:
    So you are saying MATH =/= math 

    Well, no, more like Ecdanc's Equation leads me to thinking, as in "Make America Think Harder", about a subject I am not so strong in- which is math.  The best I could come up with is either "equal divided by equal = infinity"  or "equal divided by equal = zero."  But now that I think HARDER about it (which is difficult to do at 1:10 AM in the AM), I have a feeling the answer to "equal divided by equal" may be one.  Man oh man, I am going to need some good strong coffee in about 7 hours.
    It means ”not equal to”

    The sign for "not equal to is "≠".


    How do I type that?!?! Are you some sort of wizard?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I just want to say. I regret posting pics of Joes krazy-kissing if it meant you two starting to bicker like this. It breaks my heart.
    It doesn't take much to get that started.  I prefer to discuss legitimate issues. 
    How the candidates treat women is a legitimate issue. 
    Again, after the dust up in the summer, Biden promised to be more cognizant.  I have not heard of any complaints by women since then.  So these two videos being posted as evidence that he treats women poorly are absolutely without merit unless these two women accuse him of something, which they haven't.  Until then, it's a bunch of patriarchs who know better than the individual women.  
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Democratic socialists treat on average women a lot better than right-wing capitalism jerkers. No disputing that. It's simple MATH.

    So let's go!
    You only know of one Dem Socialist in the US, so... be careful with your statistically significant sample of one.  
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I just want to say. I regret posting pics of Joes krazy-kissing if it meant you two starting to bicker like this. It breaks my heart.
    It doesn't take much to get that started.  I prefer to discuss legitimate issues. 
    How the candidates treat women is a legitimate issue. 
    Again, after the dust up in the summer, Biden promised to be more cognizant.  I have not heard of any complaints by women since then.  So these two videos being posted as evidence that he treats women poorly are absolutely without merit unless these two women accuse him of something, which they haven't.  Until then, it's a bunch of patriarchs who know better than the individual women.  
    I’ll let my wife know you think she’s a patriarch. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    A monday treat for Brian. Our man in the gang of the yang

    https://youtu.be/qgy6wZVRnNc

    Thank you! S_C!  Yes, there IS a ton of excitement around Yang's candidacy.   I'm surprised to not see more interest in Yang around here.  I would have guessed more here would think outside the box and see the potential in Yang.  He polls highest among the young.  Maybe you folks are just getting old?  :wink: 

    Seriously though, check him out.  This is real and it's happening.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I just want to say. I regret posting pics of Joes krazy-kissing if it meant you two starting to bicker like this. It breaks my heart.
    It doesn't take much to get that started.  I prefer to discuss legitimate issues. 
    How the candidates treat women is a legitimate issue. 
    Again, after the dust up in the summer, Biden promised to be more cognizant.  I have not heard of any complaints by women since then.  So these two videos being posted as evidence that he treats women poorly are absolutely without merit unless these two women accuse him of something, which they haven't.  Until then, it's a bunch of patriarchs who know better than the individual women.  
    I’ll let my wife know you think she’s a patriarch. 
    You do that.  Maybe she's just a helicopter mom.  Or maybe, you should teach her the proper definition of patriarch used in your field.  
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