The Democratic Presidential Debates

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    edited January 2020
    "Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders leads in New Hampshire, continuing to widen his top position ahead of the primaries, according to a new WBUR poll."

    https://youtu.be/7mlllKuZ_Gc
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    edited January 2020

    Good run through.

    Bernie's Damn Bill Pt. 1: What Is Medicare for All?

    https://youtu.be/iHzQ39n2dtw

    Sorry about Sweden being mentioned in the video. I did not edit it. It's an official Bernie Sanders video. I can't help what countries that  are mentioned. Moderators can remove the video if it is too sensitive on here. 

    Bernie's Damn Bill Pt. 2: How Did We Get Here?


    https://youtu.be/8yb4_s9TC0c

    Bernie's Damn Bill Pt. 3: How to Pay for It

    https://youtu.be/zosU_DNBCyE

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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471

    Why Women Trust Bernie

    https://youtu.be/8f_15cOd1cM

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    Gotta say - Someone making federal Vs state management of wolves their single issue voting is really strange.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,407
    It seems Sanders has some strong support in Iowa. I'm not a fan of him and this type of polling doesn't give me hope for the democratic presidential nominee winning. People just want a loud obnoxious candidate it seems.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/25/us/politics/democratic-iowa-poll-sanders.html
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    tbergs said:
    It seems Sanders has some strong support in Iowa. I'm not a fan of him and this type of polling doesn't give me hope for the democratic presidential nominee winning. People just want a loud obnoxious candidate it seems.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/25/us/politics/democratic-iowa-poll-sanders.html
    I wouldn't worry yet.  None of the top four get knocked off after the first two primaries. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,408
    mrussel1 said:
    tbergs said:
    It seems Sanders has some strong support in Iowa. I'm not a fan of him and this type of polling doesn't give me hope for the democratic presidential nominee winning. People just want a loud obnoxious candidate it seems.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/25/us/politics/democratic-iowa-poll-sanders.html
    I wouldn't worry yet.  None of the top four get knocked off after the first two primaries. 
    of course he has support there. he garnered some percentage in 16 for fucks sake.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,408
    oh and the question was  would be first choice not will be.....
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  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dignin said:
    pjl44 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I see Joe Rogan is trending because he mentioned on his podcast that he will most likely vote for Bernie. People are losing their shit. calling him a white nationalist/homophobe/transphobe/racist, what the fuck? I've been following him for some time, and while I have agreed with some criticism about him giving platforms to hate groups/people and softballing questions, he's far from what he's being accused of by the far left. it's just incredible. 
    him enabling and giving a plattform for pieces of shit is pretty piece of shittish. 
    I don't see it that way. i get the criticism, but I also think he's just a guy who likes to talk to all people from all walks of life who have all kinds of opinions and experiences. 

    I'm not a fan when he has someone on like that, like ted nugent, and tends to pander to them rather than challenge them, but still, I don't think that makes him a bad person or a vehicle for hate. 
    I've been listening to him for years. His curiosity has definitely led him to have some questionable characters on the show. In a lot of those cases you don't realize how shitty they are until later but it's not like he's going to erase episodes. 

    I've seen a lot of this bluster and you really have to scrutinize it. Some of it is Bernie supporters who I guess think he can win with 700,000 votes from people who agree with them on everything. But a lot of it is supporters of other candidates who are just trying to start shit. Typical bullshit.
    Sounds like a Twitter thing. I think we take it too seriously, most people don't give a shit.
    330 million people are on twitter. if something is trending, I wouldn't dismiss it as not being something people are actually talking about. joe's podcast has millions of subscribers on youtube and millions more that just view it or listen to it. that's something. 
    330 million people on Twitter would mean the entire population of the US has an account. I know it's a global platform,  so not all 330 million people are Americans. But how many if those are bot accounts? Corporations and not people? Hasn't there been a study of that, and the number of actual human beings is way significantly lower? 
    Anecdote Alert:  I've never listened to Joe Rogan once. Ever. Don't have a Twitter account. And I'm way more involved in local politics than the average person. 
    There is a massive difference between the infotainment business and the actual business of getting people elected and enacting legislative change.
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    Prediction: Bernie is not the nominee. He will never win more than a few primaries, if any at all. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    what dreams said:
    Prediction: Bernie is not the nominee. He will never win more than a few primaries, if any at all. 
    Fingers crossed. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    edited January 2020
    what dreams said:
    Prediction: Bernie is not the nominee. He will never win more than a few primaries, if any at all. 
    If he is not, then all hope for Alderaan is gone.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    what dreams said:
    Prediction: Bernie is not the nominee. He will never win more than a few primaries, if any at all. 
    If he is not, then all hope for Alderaan is gone.
    Didn't that hope end in 1977?
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    what dreams said:
    Prediction: Bernie is not the nominee. He will never win more than a few primaries, if any at all. 
    If he is not, then all hope for Alderaan is gone.
    Didn't that hope end in 1977?
    2008 as a matter of fact.


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    what dreams said:
    Prediction: Bernie is not the nominee. He will never win more than a few primaries, if any at all. 
    If he is not, then all hope for Alderaan is gone.
    Didn't that hope end in 1977?
    2008 as a matter of fact.


    That's pretty funny.  
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471

    Michael Moore Thinks an All-Women Democratic Presidential Ticket Would Win

    https://youtu.be/R2kHVvHbkZQ

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    edited January 2020
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    Michael Moore Thinks an All-Women Democratic Presidential Ticket Would Win

    https://youtu.be/R2kHVvHbkZQ


    He was right about predicting Trump would win so who knows! Could be!

    (I'm still going to vote for Yang in the primaries.)
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    -Roberto Benigni

  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    edited January 2020
    "I don't think Joe Biden is a bad person. I don't think he is an evil person. But I do think if you look back over the course of his career, he has basically been on the wrong side of almost every significant issue in essentially my lifetime. He has bought into these prevailing and often wrong political winds, throughout his career. So whether you talk about him joining up with Reagan to cut budgets and cut taxes, and smearing quote-on-quote Welfare queens which as you know is incredible racist. /.../ [Biden] was not just another vote on mass incarceration, he is a key architect of a devastating system of mass incarceration that we are only now beginning to even start to grapple with. On trade, voted for NAFTA - still to this day supports and believes in the trans pacific trade deal. /.../ And the thing with Joe Biden and Iraq. /.../ Joe Biden was actually an integral part of the buildup to that war. He was the chair of the Senate Foreign Relations committee, he wasn't just another Senator. He was the democrat in the most influential leadership position and he helped facility the case of lies made that got us into war"

    Hear the Bern Episode 40 | Joe Biden's Record (w/ Krystal Ball & Josh Fox)

    https://youtu.be/wRuilBl_w_I


    Bonus:

    https://vimeo.com/340549245

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471

    Joe Rogan Discusses Presidential Candidates with Bari Weiss


    https://youtu.be/F0PT_vQXtZM
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    what dreams said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dignin said:
    pjl44 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I see Joe Rogan is trending because he mentioned on his podcast that he will most likely vote for Bernie. People are losing their shit. calling him a white nationalist/homophobe/transphobe/racist, what the fuck? I've been following him for some time, and while I have agreed with some criticism about him giving platforms to hate groups/people and softballing questions, he's far from what he's being accused of by the far left. it's just incredible. 
    him enabling and giving a plattform for pieces of shit is pretty piece of shittish. 
    I don't see it that way. i get the criticism, but I also think he's just a guy who likes to talk to all people from all walks of life who have all kinds of opinions and experiences. 

    I'm not a fan when he has someone on like that, like ted nugent, and tends to pander to them rather than challenge them, but still, I don't think that makes him a bad person or a vehicle for hate. 
    I've been listening to him for years. His curiosity has definitely led him to have some questionable characters on the show. In a lot of those cases you don't realize how shitty they are until later but it's not like he's going to erase episodes. 

    I've seen a lot of this bluster and you really have to scrutinize it. Some of it is Bernie supporters who I guess think he can win with 700,000 votes from people who agree with them on everything. But a lot of it is supporters of other candidates who are just trying to start shit. Typical bullshit.
    Sounds like a Twitter thing. I think we take it too seriously, most people don't give a shit.
    330 million people are on twitter. if something is trending, I wouldn't dismiss it as not being something people are actually talking about. joe's podcast has millions of subscribers on youtube and millions more that just view it or listen to it. that's something. 
    330 million people on Twitter would mean the entire population of the US has an account. I know it's a global platform,  so not all 330 million people are Americans. But how many if those are bot accounts? Corporations and not people? Hasn't there been a study of that, and the number of actual human beings is way significantly lower? 
    Anecdote Alert:  I've never listened to Joe Rogan once. Ever. Don't have a Twitter account. And I'm way more involved in local politics than the average person. 
    There is a massive difference between the infotainment business and the actual business of getting people elected and enacting legislative change.
    According to Twitter, 79% of accounts are international, ie non-American. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
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