Listen....it LOOKS like it worked

nicknyr15 said:

The losers , as few as there may be, are worse off then ever. It’s almost a lotto or bust situation. There may be more upside , yes. But the downside is the worst ever. Without the secondary market as an option, lottery losers are beat. I will be at msg. I will bite the bullet and buy off stubhub. I will have to go alone and my wife will miss it because two tickets will be absurdly expensive. 

Exactly. They only people who won are 10c and people who won. This new way screws people who lost out. What happens to the loyal fan who gets shut out both pre sales and general sale, they now have to rely on this fan to fan exchange. What happens if they get shut out of that too, it's SOL for them, correct? I didn't sign up for the TM sale cause the 10c odds were pretty good for Res and MSG was my only choice. Silly me for not signing up for the TM pre sale, considering I have better luck with them. I used stubhub in 2016 and will gladly use them again. 

Fuckin A - In for OKC!  It's a hike, but I  REALLY want to see the band and can break up the trip. WOOHOO! 

Unfortunately this process didn't work for me and my family. The 4 ticket limit made things difficult as my wife and I wanted to bring our three kids. We had to each queue up to split the 5 tickets (3/2) for the Forum in LA so we could hopefully sit together, but it didn't work. All the tickets available on the row were gone before my wife could move up the queue. By the time I could check availability at the second Forum date or any of the Oakland/San Diego dates, there were no tickets.

We last saw PJ in Boston 2010 before we had kids, so we were really excited to see them live again considering when my daughter was a baby, "Black" was the only thing that could make her stop crying for her first 6mo of life!

I am hoping they come back around again on this tour.

Chr1spy said:

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jimjam1982 said:

Just curious.. GA is 10C only. Cant they revoke those tickets if they are being sold above face per 10C rules? I mean they can be transferred in NY and CO per law but the law shouldnt trump the face value restrictions applied by 10C regulations. I could be wrong though I'm not well versed on the laws.

How do you trace a GA ticket without a seat# or 10C number?

Good point. I guess it wouldn't be worth the headache but I'm sure there is a way to identify whose it was once the ticket is issued and scanned in. Anything electronic can be traced to a source. 

You could buy a cheaper item from the seller to get name and address I guess.

This seller is actually selling the login to his/her Ticketmaster account to get around the safetix. Do we know if they’ also checking ID at the door to match the account? Cause if so, if so... this won’t work... (but I haven’t seen that anywhere so I’m guessing they’re not).

They’re not going to check IDs at the door. The venues don’t want to spend more hours than necessary getting everyone in.

nicknyr15 said:

The losers , as few as there may be, are worse off then ever. It’s almost a lotto or bust situation. There may be more upside , yes. But the downside is the worst ever. Without the secondary market as an option, lottery losers are beat. I will be at msg. I will bite the bullet and buy off stubhub. I will have to go alone and my wife will miss it because two tickets will be absurdly expensive. 

Yup and I made this point in another thread.  Yea it sounds great in the Pearl Jam bubble but what if all bands go in thus direction? Do I need to join the fan club if every band I want to see? And still not guarantee a ticket if I do?  Secondary market is bad for the bands....but good for consumers overall. Limiting on smaller scale can work but you don’t want a precedent set that this will be the new norm for all artists.

and short term it’s great for ten club members but you’ve just limited this tour with a new album so no new fans can attend.  Is this wise from a business standpoint?

And to think I had absolutely zero problems back in the late sixties to get tickets for shows by the like of Jimi Hendrix, early The Who, CSN&Y, Miles Davis, etc., or even in the early to mid 80's to see The Clash, R.E.M. U2.  And the cost was never more than a couple hours wages at minimum wage.  Good lord, times have changed! 

MF117973 said:

My friend saw this on eBay. Apparently there are tickets to multiple shows listed there. I can only assume this lister got GA tickets from 10C since I doubt anyone got them from the public sale. Someone should set up a sting operation to catch these guys and make sure they don’t win any more 10C lotteries. 

To me, this eBay listing is the exception that proves the rule (“the rule” being that the nontransferability rules are keeping the scalpers out). If the scalpers thought they could make their money off this “send me 3 grand and I’ll send you a Ticketmaster login in March” arrangement” there would be hundreds or thousands of these postings. I have no first hand knowledge of the business but my hunch is that if you’re a scalper it’s critical to have your listings up the day of the public sale, to capture all the people who strike out on TM and just want to get tickets any way they can. 

PJTenFan said:

Unfortunately this process didn't work for me and my family. The 4 ticket limit made things difficult as my wife and I wanted to bring our three kids. We had to each queue up to split the 5 tickets (3/2) for the Forum in LA so we could hopefully sit together, but it didn't work. All the tickets available on the row were gone before my wife could move up the queue. By the time I could check availability at the second Forum date or any of the Oakland/San Diego dates, there were no tickets.

We last saw PJ in Boston 2010 before we had kids, so we were really excited to see them live again considering when my daughter was a baby, "Black" was the only thing that could make her stop crying for her first 6mo of life!

I am hoping they come back around again on this tour.

You were going for 5 seats to bring you, your wife, and your three kids....all under the age of 10?