Don’t think this has been discussed anywhere in the forum yet. What shows are being drawn today?
Wrigley IX and Moline
Sweet! Fingers crossed!!!
2016: Toronto I, Chicago I + II 2018: Seattle I + II, Chicago I + II 2020: Toronto, Ottawa, Quebec, Hamilton, Nashville, St. Louis, Krakow, Budapest, Zurich
Has anyone been picked and not had a $0 or $1 charge on their CC from when you selected inutially? Neither me or my GF showed a TicketsToday hold. Just curious. Has us concerned a bit.
Don’t think this has been discussed anywhere in the forum yet. What shows are being drawn today?
Only Houston and the spectrum.
All 3 or just the first one?
2016: Toronto I, Chicago I + II 2018: Seattle I + II, Chicago I + II 2020: Toronto, Ottawa, Quebec, Hamilton, Nashville, St. Louis, Krakow, Budapest, Zurich
Has anyone been picked and not had a $0 or $1 charge on their CC.
Neither me or my GF showed a TicketsToday hold. Just curious. Has us concerned a bit.
It's a temp hold, so could have been there and dropped without you noticing it. I checked mine a couple times, never saw it, not there now, waiting for MSG and Nashville
Has anyone been picked and not had a $0 or $1 charge on their CC.
Neither me or my GF showed a TicketsToday hold. Just curious. Has us concerned a bit.
4 shows won yesterday without any holds. RELAX.
Soldier Field 7-11-95, Alpine Valley 6-26-98, United Center 6-29-98, Riverport Amphitheater (St. Louis)7-2-98, MGM Grand Arena 10-22-00, Sprint Center (Kansas City)5-3-10, Adams Event Center (Missoula)9-30-12, Wrigley Field 7-19-13, Jobing.com Arena (Phoenix)11-19-13, Moda Center (Portland)11-29-13, Spokane Arena 11-30-13, Pepsi Center (Denver)10-22-14, Gila River Arena (Phoenix)5-9-22, Moody Center (Austin)9-18-23, Moody Center 9-19-23, Rogers Arena (Vancouver)5-4-24, Rogers Arena 5-6-24, MGM Grand 5-16-24, MGM Grand 5-18-24, Wrigley Field 8-29-24, Wrigley Field 8-31-24
Has anyone been picked and not had a $0 or $1 charge on their CC.
Neither me or my GF showed a TicketsToday hold. Just curious. Has us concerned a bit.
It's a temp hold, so could have been there and dropped without you noticing it. I checked mine a couple times, never saw it, not there now, waiting for MSG and Nashville
A lot of people seem to have missed the part where they said you MAY be charged a $1 hold. This is not the same for every bank or card provider. I have had plenty of holds in the past and also plenty of times where it never showed up. This is not IMO something to worry about. I didn't get a hold for this lotto and I'm not concerned.
Don’t think this has been discussed anywhere in the forum yet. What shows are being drawn today?
Only Houston and the spectrum.
All 3 or just the first one?
All five.
Oh shiiiiii. Didn’t realize they added 2 more.
2016: Toronto I, Chicago I + II 2018: Seattle I + II, Chicago I + II 2020: Toronto, Ottawa, Quebec, Hamilton, Nashville, St. Louis, Krakow, Budapest, Zurich
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buck502000
Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
Don’t think this has been discussed anywhere in the forum yet. What shows are being drawn today?
Wrigley IX and Moline
Sweet! Fingers crossed!!!
Moline..Moline... It must have been a dream!!!
I missed on the 10C lottery for that one.... got tickets through TM general sale - the page sat spinning for like 45 mintutes... before it refreshed - I sat in the nosebleeds that night!!!
In this 60+ pages of madness did anyone get a screenshot of "final odds" for shows...Really appreciate someone pointing me in the right direction. More of a curiosity thing for future reference...I went for GA in Hamilton, Toronto & Denver thus far and "struck out" 0 for 3...
First - Knoxville '98 Last - Boston night 2 '18 14 shows in between Bing
So if you get fully shut out of all your requests , 10c sending you a Kong poster right? I mean you have a right to win the lottery every time so they should make good
Marquee 91 Wetlands 91 CBGB 91 Roseland 91 and many, many more
Don’t think this has been discussed anywhere in the forum yet. What shows are being drawn today?
Wrigley IX and Moline
Sweet! Fingers crossed!!!
Moline..Moline... It must have been a dream!!!
I missed on the 10C lottery for that one.... got tickets through TM general sale - the page sat spinning for like 45 mintutes... before it refreshed - I sat in the nosebleeds that night!!!
No wonder you hate everyone. At least you were there, I suppose.
2016: Toronto I, Chicago I + II 2018: Seattle I + II, Chicago I + II 2020: Toronto, Ottawa, Quebec, Hamilton, Nashville, St. Louis, Krakow, Budapest, Zurich
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buck502000
Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
So, I heard back on 5 shows. I got one, San Diego. One out of five CA shows. Over it.
I thought SD was tomorrow?
2016: Toronto I, Chicago I + II 2018: Seattle I + II, Chicago I + II 2020: Toronto, Ottawa, Quebec, Hamilton, Nashville, St. Louis, Krakow, Budapest, Zurich
So, I heard back on 5 shows. I got one, San Diego. One out of five CA shows. Over it.
Now that's funny.
Soldier Field 7-11-95, Alpine Valley 6-26-98, United Center 6-29-98, Riverport Amphitheater (St. Louis)7-2-98, MGM Grand Arena 10-22-00, Sprint Center (Kansas City)5-3-10, Adams Event Center (Missoula)9-30-12, Wrigley Field 7-19-13, Jobing.com Arena (Phoenix)11-19-13, Moda Center (Portland)11-29-13, Spokane Arena 11-30-13, Pepsi Center (Denver)10-22-14, Gila River Arena (Phoenix)5-9-22, Moody Center (Austin)9-18-23, Moody Center 9-19-23, Rogers Arena (Vancouver)5-4-24, Rogers Arena 5-6-24, MGM Grand 5-16-24, MGM Grand 5-18-24, Wrigley Field 8-29-24, Wrigley Field 8-31-24
I'm really hoping that there is an error on their end, it sure seems like there is a glitch of some sort happening.
It seems like the shows with 2 dates are the cause for most of the discreprencies right now. Other than the people who have errors for their single show requests.
2012: Music Midtown 2016: Jacksonville 2022: Nashville 2025: Atlanta
My only show pick was Balt and the RES odds are stated as 65%. Since many will be selecting Balt with a 2 or 3 pick, my first priority pick should have odds higher than 65%. Maybe 85%. And I though when I applied only my first pick mattered due to the few shows in the east
Now it seems possible that the TM algorithm is not handling BA as the rules seem to indicate.
First it seems since the RES odds are very high for all shows, BA might be categorized as GA for odds calculation thus significantly overstating odds
Second, as the OP stated in the best avail topic, it seems possible that the algorithm is treating BA as two separate picks. So our reserved picks are being dropped to second priority effectively eliminating us from the draw
it seems there are plenty of fans picking BA complaining about getting shut out for 99% shows.
Its possible my odds appeared as good as 85% but in reality are 10%. Thats a fairly huge difference.
I think this is partially correct. BA was added to GA and not reserved so the 85% is overstated. Once the GA is filled, the BA became a reserved 1st priority but since all the new BAs are added in, the 85% is now much lower. So the reserved % is really not as high as the odds stated
I have nothing though on how a 4th priority BA can beat out a 2nd priority BA though.
How do you know BA is only applied to the GA odds? From a technology perspective it most likely that all the BA button does is select the GA and Reserved options for you, and in the database they have fields for GA and Reserved , but not BA. The odds would then be calculated by totalling the number of entries that have GA or reserved selected (depending on which you are calculating) and dividing by the available tickets of the corresponding type.
So how is BA calculated into the RES odds before the draw takes place?
We were trying to figure out why fans are losing their top priority show to lower priority picks or receiving Dear John emails for 99% shows. It seems 99% is not really 99% as a lot of Oak fans claiming denial for 99% picks.
It seems in addition to the name verification in step 2, the email entered in step 9 must match our 10c email and TM account email, although there is no reference of an email verification process
My only show pick was Balt and the RES odds are stated as 65%. Since many will be selecting Balt with a 2 or 3 pick, my first priority pick should have odds higher than 65%. Maybe 85%. And I though when I applied only my first pick mattered due to the few shows in the east
Now it seems possible that the TM algorithm is not handling BA as the rules seem to indicate.
First it seems since the RES odds are very high for all shows, BA might be categorized as GA for odds calculation thus significantly overstating odds
Second, as the OP stated in the best avail topic, it seems possible that the algorithm is treating BA as two separate picks. So our reserved picks are being dropped to second priority effectively eliminating us from the draw
it seems there are plenty of fans picking BA complaining about getting shut out for 99% shows.
Its possible my odds appeared as good as 85% but in reality are 10%. Thats a fairly huge difference.
I think this is partially correct. BA was added to GA and not reserved so the 85% is overstated. Once the GA is filled, the BA became a reserved 1st priority but since all the new BAs are added in, the 85% is now much lower. So the reserved % is really not as high as the odds stated
I have nothing though on how a 4th priority BA can beat out a 2nd priority BA though.
How do you know BA is only applied to the GA odds? From a technology perspective it most likely that all the BA button does is select the GA and Reserved options for you, and in the database they have fields for GA and Reserved , but not BA. The odds would then be calculated by totalling the number of entries that have GA or reserved selected (depending on which you are calculating) and dividing by the available tickets of the corresponding type.
So how is BA calculated into the RES odds before the draw takes place?
We were trying to figure out why fans are losing their top priority show to lower priority picks or receiving Dear John emails for 99% shows. It seems 99% is not really 99% as a lot of Oak fans claiming denial for 99% picks.
It seems in addition to the name verification in step 2, the email entered in step 9 must match our 10c email and TM account email, although there is no reference of an email verification process
Others here have suggested this last part is not the case.
As for the Dear John emails, I think you hit it on the head earlier: people are getting the "too much demand" email even if there's some other reason they didn't get tickets. That is shitty, but it fits the evidence.
Has anyone been picked and not had a $0 or $1 charge on their CC from when you selected inutially? Neither me or my GF showed a TicketsToday hold. Just curious. Has us concerned a bit.
Yes, no hold or charge and was picked on Thursday and yesterday.......
03/20/94 - Ann Arbor 09/22/96 - Toledo 10/16/14 - Detroit 09/26/21 - Dana Point 10/01/21 - Dana Point 10/02/21 - Dana Point 05/06/22 - Los Angeles 05/07/22 - Los Angeles 07/03/22 - Stockholm 07/05/22 - Copenhagen 09/08/22 - Toronto 09/16/22 - Nashville 09/18/22 - St. Louis 09/20/22 - OKC 09/05/23 - Chicago 09/07/23 - Chicago 05/16/24 - Vegas 05/18/24 - Vegas
These are all long-standing things with DMB/MUSICTODAY ticketing, just trying to figure out how MUSICTODAY is handling PJ differently/similarly than DMB
Don’t think this has been discussed anywhere in the forum yet. What shows are being drawn today?
Wrigley IX and Moline
Sweet! Fingers crossed!!!
Moline..Moline... It must have been a dream!!!
I missed on the 10C lottery for that one.... got tickets through TM general sale - the page sat spinning for like 45 mintutes... before it refreshed - I sat in the nosebleeds that night!!!
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buck502000
Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
Don’t think this has been discussed anywhere in the forum yet. What shows are being drawn today?
Wrigley IX and Moline
Sweet! Fingers crossed!!!
Moline..Moline... It must have been a dream!!!
I missed on the 10C lottery for that one.... got tickets through TM general sale - the page sat spinning for like 45 mintutes... before it refreshed - I sat in the nosebleeds that night!!!
I forgot to mention I flew 8 hours and drove another 6 hours to get there too
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2018: Seattle I + II, Chicago I + II
2020: Toronto, Ottawa, Quebec, Hamilton, Nashville, St. Louis, Krakow, Budapest, Zurich
2018: Seattle I + II, Chicago I + II
2020: Toronto, Ottawa, Quebec, Hamilton, Nashville, St. Louis, Krakow, Budapest, Zurich
RELAX.
2018: Seattle I + II, Chicago I + II
2020: Toronto, Ottawa, Quebec, Hamilton, Nashville, St. Louis, Krakow, Budapest, Zurich
I missed on the 10C lottery for that one.... got tickets through TM general sale - the page sat spinning for like 45 mintutes... before it refreshed - I sat in the nosebleeds that night!!!
Last - Boston night 2 '18
14 shows in between
Bing
Wetlands 91
CBGB 91
Roseland 91
and many, many more
2018: Seattle I + II, Chicago I + II
2020: Toronto, Ottawa, Quebec, Hamilton, Nashville, St. Louis, Krakow, Budapest, Zurich
https://www.baltimoresun.com/food-drink/bs-fe-dutch-courage-20191113-dvhtyevgp5hclfrcp4cr4ydduu-story.html
2018: Seattle I + II, Chicago I + II
2020: Toronto, Ottawa, Quebec, Hamilton, Nashville, St. Louis, Krakow, Budapest, Zurich
2016: Jacksonville
2022: Nashville
2025: Atlanta
As for the Dear John emails, I think you hit it on the head earlier: people are getting the "too much demand" email even if there's some other reason they didn't get tickets. That is shitty, but it fits the evidence.
If I don't get Nashville BA at 99% first position at least I will have an idea.
Then its off to slum it with the commoners!
09/22/96 - Toledo
10/16/14 - Detroit
09/26/21 - Dana Point
10/01/21 - Dana Point
10/02/21 - Dana Point
05/06/22 - Los Angeles
05/07/22 - Los Angeles
07/03/22 - Stockholm
07/05/22 - Copenhagen
09/08/22 - Toronto
09/16/22 - Nashville
09/18/22 - St. Louis
09/20/22 - OKC
09/05/23 - Chicago
09/07/23 - Chicago
05/16/24 - Vegas
05/18/24 - Vegas
- $1 Temp charge
- Best Available
- "too much demand" e-mails
These are all long-standing things with DMB/MUSICTODAY ticketing, just trying to figure out how MUSICTODAY is handling PJ differently/similarly than DMBI forgot to mention I flew 8 hours and drove another 6 hours to get there too