Hey how about those 2 missing Ten Club singles!

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  • fortyshades
    fortyshades Posts: 1,835
    Holy wheez... A new album is coming and someone goes to the GA re. the christmas singles? Relax. Take a sendative. The singles will come. They always delivered. They will do so again. I think their main focus was this album now, which - if I read all the comments correctly - was a tough journey for several reasons not all known to use. (And we don't need to know.) The Christmas single, holiday single or whatever will come. The reason why they stopped them, I think has more to do with the cost of pressing vinyl than snubbing us. You have to keep in mind that this a band that (almost) have every control of their albums and the bussiness aspect. They are no longer signed to a record label. This also means they have to do things, arrange things, that record label used to do. Imagine how much works goes into organizing a tour. The singles will come. As they always did. By making this a legal matter is throwing gasoline on some smouldering ashes. First thing first, and that is a dance with clairvoyents, han an album release and a tour. The singles could be original songs (which I hope), that ended up on the cutting room floor or some live outtakes. But it will come. There is already enough pressure. Some patience is in order. 
  • NewJPage
    NewJPage Posts: 3,320
    JB16057 said:
    It's embarrassing that a band would treat their most loyal fans like they have. 

    I am right on many things and you'll find out soon enough. At least I follow through with what I say I'm going to do.
    JB is undeniably correct on principle. Maybe contacting the GA is a bit much in some people's eyes, but to just say "whatever, I really like pearl jam so if they screw the pooch for YEARS on this it's fine with me" is a pretty bad take.
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  • Abe Froman
    Abe Froman Posts: 5,381
    NewJPage said:
    JB16057 said:
    It's embarrassing that a band would treat their most loyal fans like they have. 

    I am right on many things and you'll find out soon enough. At least I follow through with what I say I'm going to do.
    JB is undeniably correct on principle. Maybe contacting the GA is a bit much in some people's eyes, but to just say "whatever, I really like pearl jam so if they screw the pooch for YEARS on this it's fine with me" is a pretty bad take.
    Sure. I’ve already stated I agree the 10c has fucked up here. But they have communicated the singles will be delivered. What more does everyone want?  Does this really warrant contacting the GAoffice?  Seriously, some common sense around here would go a long way. 
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,015

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  • THEBIBLEISTEN
    THEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 2,002
    Everyone has a point here, can we leave it at that? Let’s wait till May and if nothing then we riot act? Whose in?
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,526
    edited January 2020
    Abe Froman said:

     What more does everyone want?  
    -- The band to, instead of shielding themselves behind silence and the tenclub, explain themselves personally - and being honest with us why they fucked up.

    -- Tenclub to take a "How to communicate with people 101" course and post a certificate of the passed course.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,015
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Abe Froman said:

     What more does everyone want?  
    -- The band to, instead of shielding themselves behind silence and the tenclub, explain themselves personally - and being honest with us why they fucked up.

    -- Tenclub to take a "How to communicate with people 101" course and post a certificate of the passed course.
    You might want to enroll in that course yourself. ;)
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • BennyLaRue
    BennyLaRue Posts: 751
    Not sure if this is karma or not but I went and got 2 beef and cheddars with curly fries and there was a 3rd in the bag. I guess all of this evens out in the end.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,526
    edited January 2020
    BennyLaRue said:
    Not sure if this is karma or not but I went and got 2 beef and cheddars with curly fries and there was a 3rd in the bag. I guess all of this evens out in the end.
    go vegan


    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,526
    edited January 2020
    on2legs said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Abe Froman said:

     What more does everyone want?  
    -- The band to, instead of shielding themselves behind silence and the tenclub, explain themselves personally - and being honest with us why they fucked up.

    -- Tenclub to take a "How to communicate with people 101" course and post a certificate of the passed course.
    You might want to enroll in that course yourself. ;)
    Whenever I'm responsible for something lagging behind, I make sure to keep people up to date on why and where I am in the process. I consider it quite rude not to do so. If they have an investment in the thing I am to deliver.

    I don't know how you do in your line of work.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • BennyLaRue
    BennyLaRue Posts: 751
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    BennyLaRue said:
    Not sure if this is karma or not but I went and got 2 beef and cheddars with curly fries and there was a 3rd in the bag. I guess all of this evens out in the end.
    go vegan
    I am. Arby's isn't real meat.
  • Hawk123
    Hawk123 Posts: 2,369
    I can’t believe the attorney general is being discussed when we’re talking about a couple 7” singles. It’s such a minor thing but collectively 10c is holding millions of dollars worth of goods that were paid for and like many have said before, a little communication and transparency goes a long way. It would almost be easier to just offer refunds for whatever they determine the value of a deep mag and 7” inch to be and call it a day. Those who want to wait can wait, those who want the money back can get it back and move on. 
  • THEBIBLEISTEN
    THEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 2,002
    edited January 2020
    now I just wish they would ship my vault record that I made $65 for and has had a label created since 12/18 but hasn’t moved since. Something odd about charging this much money for something but can’t ship it out. Is this a legitimate complaint?
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,526
    edited January 2020
    Which Newsletters have brought up the single? year/month?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • deadendp
    deadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Which Newsletters have brought up the single? year/month?
    That's going to take a minute. Hang on. 
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  • deadendp
    deadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    edited January 2020

    September 2019. Mentioned at the top of the newsletter and in a separate post. 

    End of 2018 update.

    January 2018

    November 2017

    July 2017

    May 2017


    Post edited by deadendp on
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  • THEBIBLEISTEN
    THEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 2,002
    Too bad it wasn’t COD for these records.
  • desolatejoy
    desolatejoy London Posts: 350
    mace1229 said:
    I also think a large part of the problem is most of us can't figure out what the delay is. We know they have unreleased recordings and lots of live stiff that can be thrown in. I can't think of a single reason these aren't done. They have claimed pressing times is an issue, but that never seems to be an issue for stuff they charge us for, like RSD and vaults, so that's really a BS excuse. It just comes back to why won;t they simply do it and why won't they communicate it with us? It is a little insulting every time they try to sell us new vinyl and say they are backordered on the ones we already paid for.
    They sold Unplugged for the price of what they sell 2 singles. That would have been an amazing solution to where everyone would have said this was definitely worth the wait and felt respected. Instead, we get nothing and are asked to pay for more vinyl when these are still missing.

    At the end of the day HFD is pretty right, I don't think about it until I see this thread. It isn't a big deal, but it is a little frustrating and does feel like we've been taken advantage of. I'm still going to pre-order the new album (already did) and go to shows though, that's why I'm really here.
    Absolutely! If pressing the vinyl was the only issue how comes they haven’t chosen the songs to go on said vinyl & issued them digitally already to tide fans over? 
    Surely that would’ve help placate some of the ill feeling & helped make this seem less like a snub by the club 🤷🏻‍♂️
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  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,271
    Here's my thought:

    It takes about 4-6 months to press vinyl, right? So I've heard, at least. The singles were announced as "in production" back in September.

    Any day between now and March is when we'll hear something...my guess.
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  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,271
    desolatejoy said:
    mace1229 said:
    I also think a large part of the problem is most of us can't figure out what the delay is. We know they have unreleased recordings and lots of live stiff that can be thrown in. I can't think of a single reason these aren't done. They have claimed pressing times is an issue, but that never seems to be an issue for stuff they charge us for, like RSD and vaults, so that's really a BS excuse. It just comes back to why won;t they simply do it and why won't they communicate it with us? It is a little insulting every time they try to sell us new vinyl and say they are backordered on the ones we already paid for.
    They sold Unplugged for the price of what they sell 2 singles. That would have been an amazing solution to where everyone would have said this was definitely worth the wait and felt respected. Instead, we get nothing and are asked to pay for more vinyl when these are still missing.

    At the end of the day HFD is pretty right, I don't think about it until I see this thread. It isn't a big deal, but it is a little frustrating and does feel like we've been taken advantage of. I'm still going to pre-order the new album (already did) and go to shows though, that's why I'm really here.
    Absolutely! If pressing the vinyl was the only issue how comes they haven’t chosen the songs to go on said vinyl & issued them digitally already to tide fans over? 
    Surely that would’ve help placate some of the ill feeling & helped make this seem less like a snub by the club 🤷🏻‍♂️

    Analog members paid more for vinyl records...they should get their benefits first, no?
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