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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,314
    First home loss when Brady and Edelman were playing together.  42-1
    I guess Edelman wasn't active in 2017, when the Chiefs took it to them that night.
    Was that the game @Wobbie declared that the Brady/Belichick era was over? Or was that after the 2014 game?

    @Wobbie ?


    I don’t remember.....but, some day, I’ll be right.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,929
    Poncier said:

    Please, it was a TV show about the job of an advanced scout being taped with permission from the Browns. It wasn't football ops people and the memory cards were confiscated because the Bungles got upset since they host the Pats next week. Do you really think if the Pats were going to tape an opponent they'd choose the Bengals?


    Like clockwork there it is
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,526
    pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:

    Please, it was a TV show about the job of an advanced scout being taped with permission from the Browns. It wasn't football ops people and the memory cards were confiscated because the Bungles got upset since they host the Pats next week. Do you really think if the Pats were going to tape an opponent they'd choose the Bengals?


    Like clockwork there it is
    so wait, why do the bengals give a shit about the browns being taped or recording happening in the browns press box?
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  • MayDay10
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    mickeyrat said:
    pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:

    Please, it was a TV show about the job of an advanced scout being taped with permission from the Browns. It wasn't football ops people and the memory cards were confiscated because the Bungles got upset since they host the Pats next week. Do you really think if the Pats were going to tape an opponent they'd choose the Bengals?


    Like clockwork there it is
    so wait, why do the bengals give a shit about the browns being taped or recording happening in the browns press box?
    Because apparently, the "crew" filmed nothing but the Bengals sideline the entire 1st quarter.


  • JK_Livin
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    The balls on these scumbags.
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  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    Did the Astros hire anyone from the patriots?
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  • JK_Livin
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    edited December 2019
    MayDay10 said:
    Cant wait to see this riveting documentary about a documentary of the scout.

    Nobody post spoilers about when he submits his reimbursements 
    Hahaha. A Ken Burns production "The Scout"
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,929
    MayDay10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:

    Please, it was a TV show about the job of an advanced scout being taped with permission from the Browns. It wasn't football ops people and the memory cards were confiscated because the Bungles got upset since they host the Pats next week. Do you really think if the Pats were going to tape an opponent they'd choose the Bengals?


    Like clockwork there it is
    so wait, why do the bengals give a shit about the browns being taped or recording happening in the browns press box?
    Because apparently, the "crew" filmed nothing but the Bengals sideline the entire 1st quarter.


    they are using the Trump timeline of excuses now too
    step 1 - it didn't happen - fake news
    step 2 - well it happened but it was just by mistake
    so what's next?  it's a conspiracy against the franchise? deep state is against the pats?

    suspend bellicheck and kraft now. cheaters gonna cheat.




  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    I think its:

    Didnt happen
    We werent aware/bad and rogue employees
    We did it but do not get any sort of advantage from it
    We did it, got an advantage, but everyone does it
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,526
    MayDay10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:

    Please, it was a TV show about the job of an advanced scout being taped with permission from the Browns. It wasn't football ops people and the memory cards were confiscated because the Bungles got upset since they host the Pats next week. Do you really think if the Pats were going to tape an opponent they'd choose the Bengals?


    Like clockwork there it is
    so wait, why do the bengals give a shit about the browns being taped or recording happening in the browns press box?
    Because apparently, the "crew" filmed nothing but the Bengals sideline the entire 1st quarter.


    ok. so this occured during browns/bengals. is it normal for any kind of scout to be at a game in this way? I mean what do they add that isnt gleaned from normal game film?

    and why in the fuck would the browns agree to this?
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  • MayDay10 said:
    Cant wait to see this riveting documentary about a documentary of the scout
    Yeah really. And why would they be filming at a Bengals/Brown game? So their own scout was there to check out the Bengals for the next week's game, and the film crew was filming the scout?
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    mickeyrat said:
    MayDay10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:

    Please, it was a TV show about the job of an advanced scout being taped with permission from the Browns. It wasn't football ops people and the memory cards were confiscated because the Bungles got upset since they host the Pats next week. Do you really think if the Pats were going to tape an opponent they'd choose the Bengals?


    Like clockwork there it is
    so wait, why do the bengals give a shit about the browns being taped or recording happening in the browns press box?
    Because apparently, the "crew" filmed nothing but the Bengals sideline the entire 1st quarter.


    ok. so this occured during browns/bengals. is it normal for any kind of scout to be at a game in this way? I mean what do they add that isnt gleaned from normal game film?

    and why in the fuck would the browns agree to this?
    Its normal for an advanced scout to attend the game of one of your next 2 upcoming opponents. He can be in the press box and take notes. He can't film.
    The guy filming was supposed to be shooting a documentary style piece of the job of the advanced scout, if he filmed the field, its a violation. He was an employee/independent contractor of Kraft productions who does weekly TV show "Patriots All Access" plus some web content. He wasn't with the Pats football operations.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,526
    Poncier said:
    mickeyrat said:
    MayDay10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:

    Please, it was a TV show about the job of an advanced scout being taped with permission from the Browns. It wasn't football ops people and the memory cards were confiscated because the Bungles got upset since they host the Pats next week. Do you really think if the Pats were going to tape an opponent they'd choose the Bengals?


    Like clockwork there it is
    so wait, why do the bengals give a shit about the browns being taped or recording happening in the browns press box?
    Because apparently, the "crew" filmed nothing but the Bengals sideline the entire 1st quarter.


    ok. so this occured during browns/bengals. is it normal for any kind of scout to be at a game in this way? I mean what do they add that isnt gleaned from normal game film?

    and why in the fuck would the browns agree to this?
    Its normal for an advanced scout to attend the game of one of your next 2 upcoming opponents. He can be in the press box and take notes. He can't film.
    The guy filming was supposed to be shooting a documentary style piece of the job of the advanced scout, if he filmed the field, its a violation. He was an employee/independent contractor of Kraft productions who does weekly TV show "Patriots All Access" plus some web content. He wasn't with the Pats football operations.
    ok. seems to me the Bengals should have been asked for permission too.
    and some could argue working for the owner of the team independently as it related to an employee of the team, in fact makes it a team thing.....

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  • mickeyrat said:
    Poncier said:
    mickeyrat said:
    MayDay10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:

    Please, it was a TV show about the job of an advanced scout being taped with permission from the Browns. It wasn't football ops people and the memory cards were confiscated because the Bungles got upset since they host the Pats next week. Do you really think if the Pats were going to tape an opponent they'd choose the Bengals?


    Like clockwork there it is
    so wait, why do the bengals give a shit about the browns being taped or recording happening in the browns press box?
    Because apparently, the "crew" filmed nothing but the Bengals sideline the entire 1st quarter.


    ok. so this occured during browns/bengals. is it normal for any kind of scout to be at a game in this way? I mean what do they add that isnt gleaned from normal game film?

    and why in the fuck would the browns agree to this?
    Its normal for an advanced scout to attend the game of one of your next 2 upcoming opponents. He can be in the press box and take notes. He can't film.
    The guy filming was supposed to be shooting a documentary style piece of the job of the advanced scout, if he filmed the field, its a violation. He was an employee/independent contractor of Kraft productions who does weekly TV show "Patriots All Access" plus some web content. He wasn't with the Pats football operations.
    ok. seems to me the Bengals should have been asked for permission too.
    and some could argue working for the owner of the team independently as it related to an employee of the team, in fact makes it a team thing.....

    I doubt anything like this goes on without Belichick knowing about it. 

    Another point I saw someone make on Twitter was that when the Patriots were investigated for spying in 2007, it was learned that Patriots cameramen were instructed by the team to say they were filming for a show if they were every caught filming sidelines...which is their story this time around. 
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    mickeyrat said:
    Poncier said:
    mickeyrat said:
    MayDay10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:

    Please, it was a TV show about the job of an advanced scout being taped with permission from the Browns. It wasn't football ops people and the memory cards were confiscated because the Bungles got upset since they host the Pats next week. Do you really think if the Pats were going to tape an opponent they'd choose the Bengals?


    Like clockwork there it is
    so wait, why do the bengals give a shit about the browns being taped or recording happening in the browns press box?
    Because apparently, the "crew" filmed nothing but the Bengals sideline the entire 1st quarter.


    ok. so this occured during browns/bengals. is it normal for any kind of scout to be at a game in this way? I mean what do they add that isnt gleaned from normal game film?

    and why in the fuck would the browns agree to this?
    Its normal for an advanced scout to attend the game of one of your next 2 upcoming opponents. He can be in the press box and take notes. He can't film.
    The guy filming was supposed to be shooting a documentary style piece of the job of the advanced scout, if he filmed the field, its a violation. He was an employee/independent contractor of Kraft productions who does weekly TV show "Patriots All Access" plus some web content. He wasn't with the Pats football operations.
    ok. seems to me the Bengals should have been asked for permission too.
    and some could argue working for the owner of the team independently as it related to an employee of the team, in fact makes it a team thing.....

    I doubt anything like this goes on without Belichick knowing about it. 

    Another point I saw someone make on Twitter was that when the Patriots were investigated for spying in 2007, it was learned that Patriots cameramen were instructed by the team to say they were filming for a show if they were every caught filming sidelines...which is their story this time around. 
    You really think Belichick approves the content of a web based video series for Patriots.com?
    That's what the "Do your job" thing is.

    And for the other point...if its on Twitter, it must be true.
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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    This is to the letter how the previous reports on spygate said they operate in case of discovery

    They have zero credibility.  

    And apparently the "film crew" asked the NFL if they could just delete the tape and they all can 'move on' (its on the video).  
  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    I guess the "film crew" was just "doing their jobs"
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  • Poncier said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Poncier said:
    mickeyrat said:
    MayDay10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:

    Please, it was a TV show about the job of an advanced scout being taped with permission from the Browns. It wasn't football ops people and the memory cards were confiscated because the Bungles got upset since they host the Pats next week. Do you really think if the Pats were going to tape an opponent they'd choose the Bengals?


    Like clockwork there it is
    so wait, why do the bengals give a shit about the browns being taped or recording happening in the browns press box?
    Because apparently, the "crew" filmed nothing but the Bengals sideline the entire 1st quarter.


    ok. so this occured during browns/bengals. is it normal for any kind of scout to be at a game in this way? I mean what do they add that isnt gleaned from normal game film?

    and why in the fuck would the browns agree to this?
    Its normal for an advanced scout to attend the game of one of your next 2 upcoming opponents. He can be in the press box and take notes. He can't film.
    The guy filming was supposed to be shooting a documentary style piece of the job of the advanced scout, if he filmed the field, its a violation. He was an employee/independent contractor of Kraft productions who does weekly TV show "Patriots All Access" plus some web content. He wasn't with the Pats football operations.
    ok. seems to me the Bengals should have been asked for permission too.
    and some could argue working for the owner of the team independently as it related to an employee of the team, in fact makes it a team thing.....

    I doubt anything like this goes on without Belichick knowing about it. 

    Another point I saw someone make on Twitter was that when the Patriots were investigated for spying in 2007, it was learned that Patriots cameramen were instructed by the team to say they were filming for a show if they were every caught filming sidelines...which is their story this time around. 
    You really think Belichick approves the content of a web based video series for Patriots.com?
    That's what the "Do your job" thing is.

    And for the other point...if its on Twitter, it must be true.
    No I think he approves people spying on opponents' sidelines. 
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  • lol, after being ruled out of Sunday's game with the flu, Le'veon Bell spent Saturday night bowling. He also hasn't cracked 80 yards rushing in a game yet this year. 
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    lol, after being ruled out of Sunday's game with the flu, Le'veon Bell spent Saturday night bowling. He also hasn't cracked 80 yards rushing in a game yet this year. 
    Bastard cost me the semifinals in my fantasy playoffs when I had to bench his ass in favor of Sony 1.9 points Michel
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