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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,928
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    cdthomas1981 said:
    Try not getting down 23-7.  The refs didn't put them in that situation.  New England was "victimized" by bad calls.  Cry me a river.  Join the club.  I'm sure they'll be back on the other side of the coin in January.
    The officiating was horrible. And I’m not crying a river. But the best part? The ref is looking at the tablet at the replay and he’s on the Jumbotron. Except the tablet never shows the replay. NFL=WWF. How about not going down 28-3? Oh yea, been there, did that. Looking forward to the playoffs.

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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    Anybody still doubting the Niners and Jimmy G? Haha

    And the Patriots second half line pays dividends yet again. I’m telling you, in games they are favored and trail at halftime or are tied, I bet they have covered 70% of the time over the last 20 years. It’s uncanny and it’s the greatest bet in all of sports. Ledbetterman, where you at?!
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,363
    pjhawks said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    cdthomas1981 said:
    Try not getting down 23-7.  The refs didn't put them in that situation.  New England was "victimized" by bad calls.  Cry me a river.  Join the club.  I'm sure they'll be back on the other side of the coin in January.
    The officiating was horrible. And I’m not crying a river. But the best part? The ref is looking at the tablet at the replay and he’s on the Jumbotron. Except the tablet never shows the replay. NFL=WWF. How about not going down 28-3? Oh yea, been there, did that. Looking forward to the playoffs.

    Cheaters complaining about getting cheated. Isn’t it ironic? Don’t ya think? Yea I really do think.
    Still schnivelling? That’s ironic. Did I complain about cheating? No, horrible officiating that was obvious. To anyone not schnivelling. Like I said, looking forward to the playoffs. 
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,822
    Horrible officiating is, unfortunately, a reality in almost every game.
    The fucking Saints went until less than two minutes left in the 3rd without a flag.
    How is that possible?
    Then they get lit up over and over in the 4th.

    The refs suck huge hog.
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  • The Juggler
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    cdthomas1981 said:
    First home loss when Brady and Edelman were playing together.  42-1
    I guess Edelman wasn't active in 2017, when the Chiefs took it to them that night.
    Was that the game @Wobbie declared that the Brady/Belichick era was over? Or was that after the 2014 game?

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  • Poncier
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    cdthomas1981 said:
    We can agree to disagree on that.  He was on the white line when Hightower contacted him.
    No...

    https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/e81ml9/highlight_hightower_shoves_mahomes_out_of_bounds/

    He's clearly inbounds when Hightower contacts him, and he was letting up instead of heading straight to the sideline (Ask 2018 Jimmy Garoppolo about the wisdom of doing that, you should remember the end result as it was in KC). And its not a hard hit either, Mahomes just loses his balance and falls into a poorly placed cooler.
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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    The Patriots got jobbed a bit yesterday.  It was foolish for Belichick to burn challenge capital on a silly spot which are almost never overturned.

    With that said, I have witnessed the Patriots as the beneficiaries of so many questionable calls and luck over the years.  
  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
    Poncier said:
    cdthomas1981 said:
    We can agree to disagree on that.  He was on the white line when Hightower contacted him.
    No...

    https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/e81ml9/highlight_hightower_shoves_mahomes_out_of_bounds/

    He's clearly inbounds when Hightower contacts him, and he was letting up instead of heading straight to the sideline (Ask 2018 Jimmy Garoppolo about the wisdom of doing that, you should remember the end result as it was in KC). And its not a hard hit either, Mahomes just loses his balance and falls into a poorly placed cooler.
    In today's NFL, that is a flag more often than not.  He was going out of bounds and Hightower shoved him into the bench.  I would like to think Mahomes can get the same treatment Tom Brady would on that type of sequence, but it looks like he still doesn't.

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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,822
    I saw that flagged recently and complained that the QB was not out of bounds yet...cannot recall which game.  It shouldn't be a penalty, by the rules, but football officiating is more and more like 'calling balls and strikes' every year.
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    It was a dick move that could’ve went either way and not really been a bad call.
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    I think NFL referees are outstanding.

    There are games that there are a number of close calls and they get a ton of focus... but this day and age where there are 30 close up camera angles and several million people emotionally watching with vested financial or fandom interests on the line. Players are also larger and faster/more efficient than ever.   Everything is analyzed to the microfiber.  The rules and format of the game has gotten so cumbersome, and it changes often (even mid-season).  

    As a Bills fan, my team gets screwed by a missed holding call or pass interference.  I boo, get upset, then shortly move on.  Most of the time though, fans and media dont/cant let go... then we get additional layers added (for example the recent pass interference challenge nonsense).  It evens out over time.


    We saw when they had the replacement referees how badly it could really be.  Those refs tore the fabric of the game when we saw what bad officiating really looks like.  By the end, they were losing control of nearly every game, players were fighting, game administration was breaking down, etc.  Real referees got back and it was night and day



  • pjsteelerfan
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    MayDay10 said:
    I think NFL referees are outstanding.

    There are games that there are a number of close calls and they get a ton of focus... but this day and age where there are 30 close up camera angles and several million people emotionally watching with vested financial or fandom interests on the line. Players are also larger and faster/more efficient than ever.   Everything is analyzed to the microfiber.  The rules and format of the game has gotten so cumbersome, and it changes often (even mid-season).  

    As a Bills fan, my team gets screwed by a missed holding call or pass interference.  I boo, get upset, then shortly move on.  Most of the time though, fans and media dont/cant let go... then we get additional layers added (for example the recent pass interference challenge nonsense).  It evens out over time.


    We saw when they had the replacement referees how badly it could really be.  Those refs tore the fabric of the game when we saw what bad officiating really looks like.  By the end, they were losing control of nearly every game, players were fighting, game administration was breaking down, etc.  Real referees got back and it was night and day



    Everyone's team has benefited from and been hurt by bad calls before. And will again.  
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  • F Me In The Brain
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    I think they are too inconsistent on what constitutes some of the major calls.
    Do they have a tough job?  Oh, hell yes.  Especially when the league keeps changing the rules.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,471
    MayDay10 said:
    I think NFL referees are outstanding.

    There are games that there are a number of close calls and they get a ton of focus... but this day and age where there are 30 close up camera angles and several million people emotionally watching with vested financial or fandom interests on the line. Players are also larger and faster/more efficient than ever.   Everything is analyzed to the microfiber.  The rules and format of the game has gotten so cumbersome, and it changes often (even mid-season).  

    As a Bills fan, my team gets screwed by a missed holding call or pass interference.  I boo, get upset, then shortly move on.  Most of the time though, fans and media dont/cant let go... then we get additional layers added (for example the recent pass interference challenge nonsense).  It evens out over time.


    We saw when they had the replacement referees how badly it could really be.  Those refs tore the fabric of the game when we saw what bad officiating really looks like.  By the end, they were losing control of nearly every game, players were fighting, game administration was breaking down, etc.  Real referees got back and it was night and day



    When I can watch a game in real time and clearly see that a player is being tackled before the ball in anywhere in the vicinity then I would say it's a bad call.
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    edited December 2019
    Well apparently there's rumblings of the Patriots video-taping shit again. Seems like much ado about nothing. But still, 

    the fact that the Patriots are even being mentioned with this sort of thing again reminds me of that Chris Rock joke about Michael Jackson being accused of molestation a second time....

    "This is like another dead white girl showing up outside OJ's house and OJ standing there like 'I know what you're thinkin'...'"

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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,928
    edited December 2019
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Well apparently there's rumblings of the Patriots video-taping shit again. Seems like much ado about nothing. But still, 

    the fact that the Patriots are even being mentioned with this sort of thing again reminds me of that Chris Rock joke about Michael Jackson being accused of molestation a second time....

    "This is like another dead white girl showing up outside OJ's house and OJ standing there like 'I know what you're thinkin'...'"

    https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/patriots-videotaping-filming-nfl-investigation-bengals-game/1uountxjnavdl1fj4fqfi0bacx

    Their excuse is they were taping one of their own scouts. Zero integrity. Can’t wait to see how pats fans spin this one.
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894

    Please, it was a TV show about the job of an advanced scout being taped with permission from the Browns. It wasn't football ops people and the memory cards were confiscated because the Bungles got upset since they host the Pats next week. Do you really think if the Pats were going to tape an opponent they'd choose the Bengals?


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  • MayDay10
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    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    Cant wait to see this riveting documentary about a documentary of the scout.

    Nobody post spoilers about when he submits his reimbursements 
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