What's funny is that the Rams traded away a pretty good CB in Marcus Peters, supposedly due to his locker room presence. Ramsey is an upgrade from Peters, but they give up a lot of draft capital to do so. Peters was more of a risk taker and a play maker, where Ramsey is truly a shutdown corner. However, Ramsey comes with his own baggage just like Peters did.
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I read that Peters was struggling bigly this season playing man and as a result the Rams were playing a ton of zone (like 3rd most in the league) and that is completely counter to how Wade Phillips likes to play D. Ramsey on the other hand excels at man, Ramsey & Phillips will supposedly love working with one another, scheme wise at least.
The thing about Peters is that he gives up a lot of big plays. He'll typically be in the league leaders in interceptions, but he'll also get toasted as much as anyone. I have no love lost for the guy, being my team drafted him. He shies away from contact and quit on the Chiefs in a game in 2017. Good luck to the Ravens dealing with that headache.
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if you can get two 1sts for a defensive player you do it every time. Mack, Ramsey. It doesnt matter how good they are at their position.
The rules favor the offense so heavily.
Agree on Ramsey but disagree on Mack. Obviously I have a bias since he's on the Bears but to get an elite pass rusher like that is so rare and he has been worth everything they gave up for him. Bears D went from being pretty good to best in the league last year because of his presence. A guy like that makes the whole defense better while a guy like Ramsey will just shut down 1 guy.
if you can get two 1sts for a defensive player you do it every time. Mack, Ramsey. It doesnt matter how good they are at their position.
The rules favor the offense so heavily.
Agree on Ramsey but disagree on Mack. Obviously I have a bias since he's on the Bears but to get an elite pass rusher like that is so rare and he has been worth everything they gave up for him. Bears D went from being pretty good to best in the league last year because of his presence. A guy like that makes the whole defense better while a guy like Ramsey will just shut down 1 guy.
I agree as well. Watching what happened to the Steelers defense after the Ryan Shazier got injured to where they are heading now after drafting Devin Bush.
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Mack is an absolute game wrecker. I wouldn't place the premium on any elite edge rusher, but a generational talent like Mack I might. There are certainly other cases like Lawrence Taylor, who won an MVP as a defensive player in 1986. I would consider paying a kings ransom for someone like that on the defensive side.
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if you can get two 1sts for a defensive player you do it every time. Mack, Ramsey. It doesnt matter how good they are at their position.
The rules favor the offense so heavily.
Agree on Ramsey but disagree on Mack. Obviously I have a bias since he's on the Bears but to get an elite pass rusher like that is so rare and he has been worth everything they gave up for him. Bears D went from being pretty good to best in the league last year because of his presence. A guy like that makes the whole defense better while a guy like Ramsey will just shut down 1 guy.
Conversely you could argue that a guy like Ramsey can shut down the #1 guy (for example Julio Jones or Tyreek Hill), allowing extra coverage on the rest of the eligible receivers and forcing a QB to hold the ball longer allowing the Macks of the world a couple extra seconds to get to the QB. They are the 2 premium positions on defense in today's NFL. Each has tremendous value if they are in fact one of the top guys in the league at their position. The Patriots don't have a Khalil Mack type pass rusher, but they have a shutdown corner in Stephon Gilmore and a very solid secondary, they are currently 2nd in the NFL with 25 sacks thru 6 games. Many of them are because the QB has had no place to throw the ball and the O-Line eventually just can't hold up.
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I will be on pins and needles tomorrow awaiting the MRI.
Best case scenario with a patella dislocation is the ligaments were stretched but no tears. They are saying 3 weeks if that's the case...its realistically going to be more like 5-6. If there's any tears, he's done for the season unless they are very minor.
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Will suck if PM is out for significant time. He is a really fun part of NFL right now.
At this point he should basically be the face of the league, so if he's out for the season that really hurts. Been a tough year for QBs so far.
if he is out for the year the AFC goes from bad to absolute shit outside of New England. And when Brady get hurts it will be a full on shit show in the AFC
Patrick Mahomes is literally almost too good to be true for me. I've waited through the Bono, Grbac, Green, Huard, Croyle, Cassel, Palko, Orton, Quinn, Smith eras for someone as special as him. I really hope he comes back this year and the Chiefs still have a legitimate shot of winning the AFC West.
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At this point he should basically be the face of the league, so if he's out for the season that really hurts. Been a tough year for QBs so far.
if he is out for the year the AFC goes from bad to absolute shit outside of New England. And when Brady get hurts it will be a full on shit show in the AFC
Pats still roll, with or without TB12. Relentless D and #4.
Patrick Mahomes is literally almost too good to be true for me. I've waited through the Bono, Grbac, Green, Huard, Croyle, Cassel, Palko, Orton, Quinn, Smith eras for someone as special as him. I really hope he comes back this year and the Chiefs still have a legitimate shot of winning the AFC West.
He's going to need surgery either way. I've done the same thing to my knee multiple times and it didn't feel right until I had the surgery to repair the MPFL ligament that gets torn when the kneecap dislocates. And that was just me some regular guy in day to day life....not an NFL QB who is always running. Obviously he's going to want to come back but the smart move would prob be to have the surgery and look to the long term.
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At this point he should basically be the face of the league, so if he's out for the season that really hurts. Been a tough year for QBs so far.
if he is out for the year the AFC goes from bad to absolute shit outside of New England. And when Brady get hurts it will be a full on shit show in the AFC
Pats still roll, with or without TB12. Relentless D and #4.
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Getting those spry young players on 4 and 5 year cheap ELCs is very important. Especially when $has been committed to the QB
Ramsey on the other hand excels at man, Ramsey & Phillips will supposedly love working with one another, scheme wise at least.
They are the 2 premium positions on defense in today's NFL. Each has tremendous value if they are in fact one of the top guys in the league at their position.
The Patriots don't have a Khalil Mack type pass rusher, but they have a shutdown corner in Stephon Gilmore and a very solid secondary, they are currently 2nd in the NFL with 25 sacks thru 6 games. Many of them are because the QB has had no place to throw the ball and the O-Line eventually just can't hold up.
man was that even football?
hope Mahomes not too serious
They are saying 3 weeks if that's the case...its realistically going to be more like 5-6. If there's any tears, he's done for the season unless they are very minor.
Been a tough year for QBs so far.
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He's going to need surgery either way. I've done the same thing to my knee multiple times and it didn't feel right until I had the surgery to repair the MPFL ligament that gets torn when the kneecap dislocates. And that was just me some regular guy in day to day life....not an NFL QB who is always running. Obviously he's going to want to come back but the smart move would prob be to have the surgery and look to the long term.
Schefter must have been inside the tube with him