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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,174
    igotid88 said:
    Both hyped up quarterbacks lost
    I’m not sure Love is hyped. more like, “he might not suck, after all.”
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,727
    edited December 2023
    Tua is an incapable and inadequate quarterback if his first read isnt wide open in the first 2 seconds of a play.
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  • MayDay10 said:
    Tua is an incapable and inadequate quarterback if his first read isnt wide open in the first 2 seconds of a play.
    I know this is the popular position but I think last night was messed up for him....4 of 5 starting OL were missing after 1st qtr.  3 or 5 didn't dress.  
    If TN had their beast lineman (he was out, I forget his name) playing it may have been 10 sacks instead of 5.  

    There are a lot of throws Tua makes which are in anticipation of the player being open, but they are covered when he throws.

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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,727
    MayDay10 said:
    Tua is an incapable and inadequate quarterback if his first read isnt wide open in the first 2 seconds of a play.
    I know this is the popular position but I think last night was messed up for him....4 of 5 starting OL were missing after 1st qtr.  3 or 5 didn't dress.  
    If TN had their beast lineman (he was out, I forget his name) playing it may have been 10 sacks instead of 5.  

    There are a lot of throws Tua makes which are in anticipation of the player being open, but they are covered when he throws.

    Would you want your team to give him something like a 6-year, $50 million contract with a lot guaranteed?  
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain Posts: 31,266
    edited December 2023
    MayDay10 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    Tua is an incapable and inadequate quarterback if his first read isnt wide open in the first 2 seconds of a play.
    I know this is the popular position but I think last night was messed up for him....4 of 5 starting OL were missing after 1st qtr.  3 or 5 didn't dress.  
    If TN had their beast lineman (he was out, I forget his name) playing it may have been 10 sacks instead of 5.  

    There are a lot of throws Tua makes which are in anticipation of the player being open, but they are covered when he throws.

    Would you want your team to give him something like a 6-year, $50 million contract with a lot guaranteed?  
    No,I would not.  I like the team I root for's current approach - pay your QB the league minimum.  Let him play at elite level for bargain basement $ and carry huge deals for RB, WR, LB, TE, OL, and multiple DL.  
    Brock rules!
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  • Let Brock walk when his deal is up.
    Shanny can even make that colossal loser Jimmy G into a productive QB.  
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    This mildly bugs me---- but does anyone find it odd, especially in 2023, that Tommy Devito and his agent being Italian is somehow funny to a lot of people? I'm half Italian and I can see the humor. But what if Tommy Devito was black and had a black agent? Would it be acceptable to make jokes of their blackness? What if Tommy Devito was Asian and had a Chinese agent? Would twitter be laughing at their "overwhelming" Oriental-ness?

    Again, I totally get the joke. I just suspect that a lot of the people laughing about it twitter are the same sort of people who would get mad at others for making similar jokes/comments about other races or ethnicities. 
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  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,870
    edited December 2023
    ^ for me the living at home, eating cutlets and having a loving mama do his choirs is the angle I see… the Italian part is his family being comfortable, they had a giant feast in the lot… heard 300 chicken cutlet sandwiches dished out

    the agent guy is playing up the mob thing 🤣…. For clickbait reasons and like everyone else, looking to cash in
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,140
    edited December 2023
    This mildly bugs me---- but does anyone find it odd, especially in 2023, that Tommy Devito and his agent being Italian is somehow funny to a lot of people? I'm half Italian and I can see the humor. But what if Tommy Devito was black and had a black agent? Would it be acceptable to make jokes of their blackness? What if Tommy Devito was Asian and had a Chinese agent? Would twitter be laughing at their "overwhelming" Oriental-ness?

    Again, I totally get the joke. I just suspect that a lot of the people laughing about it twitter are the same sort of people who would get mad at others for making similar jokes/comments about other races or ethnicities. 

    It sells. That is all the NFL cares about. I cannot blame Devito's family and team for capitalizing on this opportunity. The difference to what you mention is that those other groups might not get the same traction or "market share." Pure speculation without a real opinion :) I will say that I thought of Benny Blanco when I saw his agent in the stands.
  • This mildly bugs me---- but does anyone find it odd, especially in 2023, that Tommy Devito and his agent being Italian is somehow funny to a lot of people? I'm half Italian and I can see the humor. But what if Tommy Devito was black and had a black agent? Would it be acceptable to make jokes of their blackness? What if Tommy Devito was Asian and had a Chinese agent? Would twitter be laughing at their "overwhelming" Oriental-ness?

    Again, I totally get the joke. I just suspect that a lot of the people laughing about it twitter are the same sort of people who would get mad at others for making similar jokes/comments about other races or ethnicities. 
    I’m full Italian and won’t be satisfied until DeVito poaches Big Dom from the Eagles to be his Luca Brasi. 

    And yeah people would go crazy if it was black or Asian stereotypes being joked about. I wouldn’t care in the least, but the jokes probably wouldn’t be all that funny. As opposed to….



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  • Haha.  Daniel Jones is Big Pussy.  
    That is funny.
    My ancestry is half Italian, my dad's family are all named Italian names. My surname is obviously Italian, and although I don't necessarily look Italian, I've grown up being tagged with the silliest nicknames associated with being of Italian descent.
    Can't say it ever bothered me.  
    I have the perspective of also being Puerto Rican...and knowing that discrimination in America is still strong and real against PRs, the jokes about Italian stuff doesn't bother me like it would have a hundred years ago, when discrimination against Italians was very real here.

    My two cents.  
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
    edited December 2023
    This mildly bugs me---- but does anyone find it odd, especially in 2023, that Tommy Devito and his agent being Italian is somehow funny to a lot of people? I'm half Italian and I can see the humor. But what if Tommy Devito was black and had a black agent? Would it be acceptable to make jokes of their blackness? What if Tommy Devito was Asian and had a Chinese agent? Would twitter be laughing at their "overwhelming" Oriental-ness?

    Again, I totally get the joke. I just suspect that a lot of the people laughing about it twitter are the same sort of people who would get mad at others for making similar jokes/comments about other races or ethnicities. 
    You’re not wrong. 
    But OTOH 

  • Also, yes...Juggler, to your point.
    Nobody would allow for it to be Tommy Won Ton or Tommy Fried Chicken.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,174
    juggler is getting introspective in his old age.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    This mildly bugs me---- but does anyone find it odd, especially in 2023, that Tommy Devito and his agent being Italian is somehow funny to a lot of people? I'm half Italian and I can see the humor. But what if Tommy Devito was black and had a black agent? Would it be acceptable to make jokes of their blackness? What if Tommy Devito was Asian and had a Chinese agent? Would twitter be laughing at their "overwhelming" Oriental-ness?

    Again, I totally get the joke. I just suspect that a lot of the people laughing about it twitter are the same sort of people who would get mad at others for making similar jokes/comments about other races or ethnicities. 
    Lighten up Francis.
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,140
    Also, yes...Juggler, to your point.
    Nobody would allow for it to be Tommy Won Ton or Tommy Fried Chicken.

    Tommy noodles for the win!
  • Well our own team has the coach and the team fixer wearing Italian flags on the sideline (gotta get one of those). The agent's outfit was obviously over the top but whatever who cares. I agree with PJH, although I'd say lighten up Francesco.
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain Posts: 31,266
    edited December 2023
    Get_Right said:
    Also, yes...Juggler, to your point.
    Nobody would allow for it to be Tommy Won Ton or Tommy Fried Chicken.

    Tommy noodles for the win!
    I've been Noodle, Noodleroni, Pasta, Ziti, Eyetie, WOP, Mayo The Wop, and various other things that people find humorous.   
    None of it bothered me.
    Tommy Cutlets is pretty good.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,174
    Get_Right said:
    Also, yes...Juggler, to your point.
    Nobody would allow for it to be Tommy Won Ton or Tommy Fried Chicken.

    Tommy noodles for the win!
    I've been Noodle, Noodleroni, Pasta, Ziti, Eyetie, WOP, Mayo The Wop, and various other things that people find humorous.   
    None of it bothered me.

    italian stallion?
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • Wobbie said:
    Get_Right said:
    Also, yes...Juggler, to your point.
    Nobody would allow for it to be Tommy Won Ton or Tommy Fried Chicken.

    Tommy noodles for the win!
    I've been Noodle, Noodleroni, Pasta, Ziti, Eyetie, WOP, Mayo The Wop, and various other things that people find humorous.   
    None of it bothered me.

    italian stallion?
    More like the eye Talian stall ion.
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  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,870
    I’m 100% croatian

    Belechick also is, I’m not offended 🤣
  • Wobbie said:
    Get_Right said:
    Also, yes...Juggler, to your point.
    Nobody would allow for it to be Tommy Won Ton or Tommy Fried Chicken.

    Tommy noodles for the win!
    I've been Noodle, Noodleroni, Pasta, Ziti, Eyetie, WOP, Mayo The Wop, and various other things that people find humorous.   
    None of it bothered me.

    italian stallion?
    More like the eye Talian stall ion.
    Ha.  Truth!
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  • Wobbie said:
    Get_Right said:
    Also, yes...Juggler, to your point.
    Nobody would allow for it to be Tommy Won Ton or Tommy Fried Chicken.

    Tommy noodles for the win!
    I've been Noodle, Noodleroni, Pasta, Ziti, Eyetie, WOP, Mayo The Wop, and various other things that people find humorous.   
    None of it bothered me.

    italian stallion?
    More like the eye Talian stall ion.
    Ha.  Truth!
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  • CROJAM95 said:
    ^ for me the living at home, eating cutlets and having a loving mama do his choirs is the angle I see… the Italian part is his family being comfortable, they had a giant feast in the lot… heard 300 chicken cutlet sandwiches dished out

    the agent guy is playing up the mob thing 🤣…. For clickbait reasons and like everyone else, looking to cash in
    His agent is trying wayyy too hard and killing it.

    It's good for football and a feel good story.  People embrace it more than make fun of it.

    I do hope Tommy Cutlets has further success.  Stories like his is like Warners and hopefully more success to follow.
  • Get_Right said:
    Also, yes...Juggler, to your point.
    Nobody would allow for it to be Tommy Won Ton or Tommy Fried Chicken.

    Tommy noodles for the win!
    I've been Noodle, Noodleroni, Pasta, Ziti, Eyetie, WOP, Mayo The Wop, and various other things that people find humorous.   
    None of it bothered me.
    Tommy Cutlets is pretty good.
    No goombah or wiseguy?  Sheesh, unoriginal takes, lol.
  • Get_Right said:
    Also, yes...Juggler, to your point.
    Nobody would allow for it to be Tommy Won Ton or Tommy Fried Chicken.

    Tommy noodles for the win!
    I've been Noodle, Noodleroni, Pasta, Ziti, Eyetie, WOP, Mayo The Wop, and various other things that people find humorous.   
    None of it bothered me.
    Tommy Cutlets is pretty good.
    No goombah or wiseguy?  Sheesh, unoriginal takes, lol.
    Goomba is generally a negative and a derogatory term.  Friends might make a joke but not give a nickname like that.  At least not my friends.  
    Wise guy?  No, although jokes are made.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    Get_Right said:
    Also, yes...Juggler, to your point.
    Nobody would allow for it to be Tommy Won Ton or Tommy Fried Chicken.

    Tommy noodles for the win!
    I've been Noodle, Noodleroni, Pasta, Ziti, Eyetie, WOP, Mayo The Wop, and various other things that people find humorous.   
    None of it bothered me.
    Tommy Cutlets is pretty good.
    No goombah or wiseguy?  Sheesh, unoriginal takes, lol.
    Goomba is generally a negative and a derogatory term.  Friends might make a joke but not give a nickname like that.  At least not my friends.  
    Wise guy?  No, although jokes are made.
    We got a Goomba's pizza/hoagie place near me and people swear they have among the best cheesesteaks in the burbs. They are pretty damn good, I will admit. I however stay the fuck away because their facebook page is littered with maga shit. Nonstop, or at least it used to be a few years back. I'll never understand businesses who do that stuff knowing they are alienating half their potential customers.

    Tommy Won Ton is hilarious, by the way. 
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  • Get_Right said:
    Also, yes...Juggler, to your point.
    Nobody would allow for it to be Tommy Won Ton or Tommy Fried Chicken.

    Tommy noodles for the win!
    I've been Noodle, Noodleroni, Pasta, Ziti, Eyetie, WOP, Mayo The Wop, and various other things that people find humorous.   
    None of it bothered me.
    Tommy Cutlets is pretty good.
    No goombah or wiseguy?  Sheesh, unoriginal takes, lol.
    Goomba is generally a negative and a derogatory term.  Friends might make a joke but not give a nickname like that.  At least not my friends.  
    Wise guy?  No, although jokes are made.
    Ummm WOP is the most derogatory thing you can say to an Italian.  With Out Papers.  That's a slur.  Goombah?  That's a tough guy Italian or a made man.  Not sure where u heard that goombah was bad and WOP was good?!?
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,727
    The Devito stuff bores me.  

    He will be completely forgotten less than a year from now.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
    edited December 2023
    MayDay10 said:
    The Devito stuff bores me.  

    He will be completely forgotten less than a year from now.
    That's the NFL for you... and modern day society for what it's worth. The next big thing rarely matters and is sure to be forgotten almost as quickly as it arrived. 
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