***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    2018


  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
    https://www.npr.org/2019/09/26/764071379/read-house-intel-releases-whistleblower-complaint-on-trump-ukraine-call

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,975
    2018
    Well now hopefully we will hear from others.....

    I honestly believe trump thinks he did nothing wrong. And that is the biggest problem.
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,083
    expect a twitter explosion any minute.  this memo is bad stuff.  tick tock...
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,554
    "THE FIELD"

    “White House officials told me they were ‘directed’ by White House lawyers to remove the electronic transcript ...officials had intervened to 'lock down' all the records... this was ‘not the first time’ under this admin that a presidential transcript was placed into this code-word level system. This set of actions underscored to me that the White House understood the gravity of what had transpired in the call.”

    "U.S. officials were deeply concerned by ... Mr. Giuliani's circumvention of National Security decision-making processes"

    "Barr appears to be involved as well"


  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,023
    Lerxst1992 said:

    “White House officials told me they were ‘directed’ by White House lawyers to remove the electronic transcript ...officials had intervened to 'lock down' all the records... this was ‘not the first time’ under this admin that a presidential transcript was placed into this code-word level system. This set of actions underscored to me that the White House understood the gravity of what had transpired in the call.”

    "U.S. officials were deeply concerned by ... Mr. Giuliani's circumvention of National Security decision-making processes"

    "Barr appears to be involved as well"


    Where did this quote come from?
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,554
    "THE FIELD"
    Yuriy Lutsenko wanted to stay his position as Prosecutor General of Ukraine after Zelensky was elected so he dangled fabricated dirt about Biden in front of Trump. Trump was attracted to this like a fly to dogshit and now he's losing the presidency over it. All because of Lutsenko's game to keep his job and Trump is actually corrupt enough to bite at the bait. What a shit show.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,083
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Lerxst1992 said:

    “White House officials told me they were ‘directed’ by White House lawyers to remove the electronic transcript ...officials had intervened to 'lock down' all the records... this was ‘not the first time’ under this admin that a presidential transcript was placed into this code-word level system. This set of actions underscored to me that the White House understood the gravity of what had transpired in the call.”

    "U.S. officials were deeply concerned by ... Mr. Giuliani's circumvention of National Security decision-making processes"

    "Barr appears to be involved as well"


    Where did this quote come from?
    the directed by white house lawyers to remove the transcript is in the memo.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Lerxst1992 said:

    “White House officials told me they were ‘directed’ by White House lawyers to remove the electronic transcript ...officials had intervened to 'lock down' all the records... this was ‘not the first time’ under this admin that a presidential transcript was placed into this code-word level system. This set of actions underscored to me that the White House understood the gravity of what had transpired in the call.”

    "U.S. officials were deeply concerned by ... Mr. Giuliani's circumvention of National Security decision-making processes"

    "Barr appears to be involved as well"


    Where did this quote come from?
    https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20190812_-_whistleblower_complaint_unclass.pdf
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,023

    Rep. Nunes says the whistleblower complaint relies on "hearsay"


    Story taken from CNN.

    So is it heresay or is there actual proof that an actual word for word document exists because if there isn't then this shitshow will ALWAYS have questions unanswered?
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    tempo_n_groove said:

    Rep. Nunes says the whistleblower complaint relies on "hearsay"


    Story taken from CNN.

    So is it heresay or is there actual proof that an actual word for word document exists because if there isn't then this shitshow will ALWAYS have questions unanswered?
    Witnesses and records.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,620

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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,023
    dignin said:
    tempo_n_groove said:

    Rep. Nunes says the whistleblower complaint relies on "hearsay"


    Story taken from CNN.

    So is it heresay or is there actual proof that an actual word for word document exists because if there isn't then this shitshow will ALWAYS have questions unanswered?
    Witnesses and records.
    I'm asking because I can't find it.

    Where is the word for word document?  I've found the "whistleblower memo" that has a few things still marked as classified but have not seen the actual transcript yet.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,620
    The only unanswered question will end up being who in Trump's immediate orbit wasn't involved. 
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  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
    dignin said:
    tempo_n_groove said:

    Rep. Nunes says the whistleblower complaint relies on "hearsay"


    Story taken from CNN.

    So is it heresay or is there actual proof that an actual word for word document exists because if there isn't then this shitshow will ALWAYS have questions unanswered?
    Witnesses and records.
    That's the frustrating thing about most of this.  If you want, you can still spin the narrative based on interpretation.  The only way you can impeach Trump is to have the conservative Republicans on board.  They would have to be provided a smoking gun to sway their opinion, given the fact they've sold their souls to Trumpster Fire's administration and will continue to support tooth-and-nail so they don't lose control of the executive branch.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,023
    In case you wanted to read it. The Whistleblowers memo.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/read-full-text-whistleblower-complaint-n1058971
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    tempo_n_groove said:
    In case you wanted to read it. The Whistleblowers memo.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/read-full-text-whistleblower-complaint-n1058971
    I posted the document in response to your comment above. 
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    cdthomas1981 said:
    dignin said:
    tempo_n_groove said:

    Rep. Nunes says the whistleblower complaint relies on "hearsay"


    Story taken from CNN.

    So is it heresay or is there actual proof that an actual word for word document exists because if there isn't then this shitshow will ALWAYS have questions unanswered?
    Witnesses and records.
    That's the frustrating thing about most of this.  If you want, you can still spin the narrative based on interpretation.  The only way you can impeach Trump is to have the conservative Republicans on board.  They would have to be provided a smoking gun to sway their opinion, given the fact they've sold their souls to Trumpster Fire's administration and will continue to support tooth-and-nail so they don't lose control of the executive branch.
    Pretty much.

    Also, it's "smocking" gun. Get with the lingo man.

    ;)
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,448
    tempo_n_groove said:
    In case you wanted to read it. The Whistleblowers memo.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/read-full-text-whistleblower-complaint-n1058971
    To me, I find it interesting when the whistleblower writes that he or she wasn’t present for most of these events. That means he or she was directly present for some of them, and I suspect those details will come out to Congress somehow, and I suspect those are the only ones republicans will be forced to address. The rest they can probably say is just political theatre unless it’s corroborated.
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  • OnWis97
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    "THE FIELD"
    cincybearcat said:
    Well now hopefully we will hear from others.....

    I honestly believe trump thinks he did nothing wrong. And that is the biggest problem.
    I’d say the biggest problem is that the Party of Trump will protect him at all costs.  We should be able to withstand this, per the constitution.  But the framers didn’t anticipate Party First.
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