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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    This is what I don't understand, it IS tax payer money.  No way that can happen right?  This would never fly through any of the courts.

    If he executive ordered this it would be shot down quick, yes?

    The fact that this was proposed in the first place has me scratching my head.

    I'll defend any side against bullshit but this ain't that.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    56% disapproval. From a Fox News poll...

    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/457480-trump-disapproval-rises-to-near-record-fox-news-poll

    At this point, the ball's really in the Dems' court to not fuck this up. 
    From the same Fox poll:


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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,385
    edited August 2019
    ikiT said:
    "I think my rhetoric brings people together," he said last week, four days after a 21-year-old allegedly posted an anti-immigrant screed online and then allegedly opened fire at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, killing 22 and injuring dozens of others.
    yes, its brings a shooter together with innocent people, then it brings first responders, including emts and hospital staffs, together with the shooter and the innocent people. Then it brings the coroners together with the dead. then it brings family and friends together with funeral directors and clergy. then it brings cemetary workers together with friends and family.

    hes right. he really brings people together......
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    56% disapproval. From a Fox News poll...

    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/457480-trump-disapproval-rises-to-near-record-fox-news-poll

    At this point, the ball's really in the Dems' court to not fuck this up. 
    From the same Fox poll:


    Yeah I saw them show this poll on CNN and wanted to post it....but couldn't find a graphic or a link. The sad thing is that when I saw this, I felt there should be a follow-up question. 59% think he's tearing the country apart. But of those 59%, how many think it's a bad thing? One would think they all do. But do they? I think there's a portion of his base that may feel it's a good thing....in a segregationist sort of way. 
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    56% disapproval. From a Fox News poll...

    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/457480-trump-disapproval-rises-to-near-record-fox-news-poll

    At this point, the ball's really in the Dems' court to not fuck this up. 
    From the same Fox poll:


    So I'm gonna call out this meme/stat whatever you want to call it.

    FOX has nothing posted anywhere on this.  I can't find it anywhere.  It's reported everywhere BUT on one of their sites.

    Only poll I found was his approval ratings.

    So I wrote the above then I did some digging!!!

    Fox has this one poll hidden in their article.  You have to click on "Show Poll Results"
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-most-back-gun-restrictions-after-shootings-trump-ratings-down

    Click on it then scroll down to question 23.  I have the link already below.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-august-14

    Sneaky bastards.

     

  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    56% disapproval. From a Fox News poll...

    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/457480-trump-disapproval-rises-to-near-record-fox-news-poll

    At this point, the ball's really in the Dems' court to not fuck this up. 
    From the same Fox poll:


    So I'm gonna call out this meme/stat whatever you want to call it.

    FOX has nothing posted anywhere on this.  I can't find it anywhere.  It's reported everywhere BUT on one of their sites.

    Only poll I found was his approval ratings.

    So I wrote the above then I did some digging!!!

    Fox has this one poll hidden in their article.  You have to click on "Show Poll Results"
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-most-back-gun-restrictions-after-shootings-trump-ratings-down

    Click on it then scroll down to question 23.  I have the link already below.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-august-14

    Sneaky bastards.

     

    Yeah its in their brand new poll out today. Whenever you see approval numbers there are always other questions asked to get the mood of the country.

    It is interesting that Fox barely mentioned it this morning, while CNN and MSNBC were giving it coverage...
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,860
    56% disapproval. From a Fox News poll...

    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/457480-trump-disapproval-rises-to-near-record-fox-news-poll

    At this point, the ball's really in the Dems' court to not fuck this up. 
    From the same Fox poll:


    So I'm gonna call out this meme/stat whatever you want to call it.

    FOX has nothing posted anywhere on this.  I can't find it anywhere.  It's reported everywhere BUT on one of their sites.

    Only poll I found was his approval ratings.

    So I wrote the above then I did some digging!!!

    Fox has this one poll hidden in their article.  You have to click on "Show Poll Results"
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-most-back-gun-restrictions-after-shootings-trump-ratings-down

    Click on it then scroll down to question 23.  I have the link already below.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-august-14

    Sneaky bastards.

     



    I read that fox poll much differently.  Trumps 43% approval (after that horrific mass murder) is damn close to the 46% he won with in 2016

    That tells me the dems make one small mistake (ahem MFA) Trump gets reelected. 
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    56% disapproval. From a Fox News poll...

    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/457480-trump-disapproval-rises-to-near-record-fox-news-poll

    At this point, the ball's really in the Dems' court to not fuck this up. 
    From the same Fox poll:


    So I'm gonna call out this meme/stat whatever you want to call it.

    FOX has nothing posted anywhere on this.  I can't find it anywhere.  It's reported everywhere BUT on one of their sites.

    Only poll I found was his approval ratings.

    So I wrote the above then I did some digging!!!

    Fox has this one poll hidden in their article.  You have to click on "Show Poll Results"
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-most-back-gun-restrictions-after-shootings-trump-ratings-down

    Click on it then scroll down to question 23.  I have the link already below.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-august-14

    Sneaky bastards.

     



    I read that fox poll much differently.  Trumps 43% approval (after that horrific mass murder) is damn close to the 46% he won with in 2016

    That tells me the dems make one small mistake (ahem MFA) Trump gets reelected. 
    Yes, it's a spin on the numbers.  His approval rating has always been around 43%
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited August 2019
    56% disapproval. From a Fox News poll...

    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/457480-trump-disapproval-rises-to-near-record-fox-news-poll

    At this point, the ball's really in the Dems' court to not fuck this up. 
    From the same Fox poll:


    So I'm gonna call out this meme/stat whatever you want to call it.

    FOX has nothing posted anywhere on this.  I can't find it anywhere.  It's reported everywhere BUT on one of their sites.

    Only poll I found was his approval ratings.

    So I wrote the above then I did some digging!!!

    Fox has this one poll hidden in their article.  You have to click on "Show Poll Results"
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-most-back-gun-restrictions-after-shootings-trump-ratings-down

    Click on it then scroll down to question 23.  I have the link already below.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-august-14

    Sneaky bastards.

     



    I read that fox poll much differently.  Trumps 43% approval (after that horrific mass murder) is damn close to the 46% he won with in 2016

    That tells me the dems make one small mistake (ahem MFA) Trump gets reelected. 
    Yes, it's a spin on the numbers.  His approval rating has always been around 43%
    It was actually 46% in the last Fox poll.....
    Overall he's down to 41.7. This includes a 5% drop in his favorite Rasmussen poll:
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

    I'd expect these numbers to continue to drop as more polls come out since the shootings and as more bad news comes out regarding the economy...
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    56% disapproval. From a Fox News poll...

    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/457480-trump-disapproval-rises-to-near-record-fox-news-poll

    At this point, the ball's really in the Dems' court to not fuck this up. 
    From the same Fox poll:


    So I'm gonna call out this meme/stat whatever you want to call it.

    FOX has nothing posted anywhere on this.  I can't find it anywhere.  It's reported everywhere BUT on one of their sites.

    Only poll I found was his approval ratings.

    So I wrote the above then I did some digging!!!

    Fox has this one poll hidden in their article.  You have to click on "Show Poll Results"
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-most-back-gun-restrictions-after-shootings-trump-ratings-down

    Click on it then scroll down to question 23.  I have the link already below.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-august-14

    Sneaky bastards.

     



    I read that fox poll much differently.  Trumps 43% approval (after that horrific mass murder) is damn close to the 46% he won with in 2016

    That tells me the dems make one small mistake (ahem MFA) Trump gets reelected. 
    Yes, it's a spin on the numbers.  His approval rating has always been around 43%
    It was actually 46% in the last Fox poll.....
    Overall he's down to 41.7. This includes a 5% drop in his favorite Rasmussen poll:
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

    I'd expect these numbers to continue to drop as more polls come out since the shootings and as more bad news comes out regarding the economy...
    By spin I meant that he has always hovered right around 43% and his disapproval rating has been about the same too since election.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    56% disapproval. From a Fox News poll...

    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/457480-trump-disapproval-rises-to-near-record-fox-news-poll

    At this point, the ball's really in the Dems' court to not fuck this up. 
    From the same Fox poll:


    So I'm gonna call out this meme/stat whatever you want to call it.

    FOX has nothing posted anywhere on this.  I can't find it anywhere.  It's reported everywhere BUT on one of their sites.

    Only poll I found was his approval ratings.

    So I wrote the above then I did some digging!!!

    Fox has this one poll hidden in their article.  You have to click on "Show Poll Results"
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-most-back-gun-restrictions-after-shootings-trump-ratings-down

    Click on it then scroll down to question 23.  I have the link already below.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-august-14

    Sneaky bastards.

     



    I read that fox poll much differently.  Trumps 43% approval (after that horrific mass murder) is damn close to the 46% he won with in 2016

    That tells me the dems make one small mistake (ahem MFA) Trump gets reelected. 
    Yes, it's a spin on the numbers.  His approval rating has always been around 43%
    It was actually 46% in the last Fox poll.....
    Overall he's down to 41.7. This includes a 5% drop in his favorite Rasmussen poll:
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

    I'd expect these numbers to continue to drop as more polls come out since the shootings and as more bad news comes out regarding the economy...
    By spin I meant that he has always hovered right around 43% and his disapproval rating has been about the same too since election.
    How is it spin, though? This is always good info to get the feel for how the country is thinking.

    He has always hovered around 40-42%, historically low numbers. This is primarily because of the economy he inherited. They go down, like they are now, when stuff like the shootings happen and then they tick back "up" since the economy has been good. 

    His disapproval is about as high as it's been in that particular poll, though. That's newsworthy. And the "tearing the country apart" numbers? My goodness. 60% of the country believes the president of this country is tearing us apart! That is literally insane. 

    Imagine what these numbers will look like as more people become aware of the economy heading towards recession....
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    56% disapproval. From a Fox News poll...

    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/457480-trump-disapproval-rises-to-near-record-fox-news-poll

    At this point, the ball's really in the Dems' court to not fuck this up. 
    From the same Fox poll:


    So I'm gonna call out this meme/stat whatever you want to call it.

    FOX has nothing posted anywhere on this.  I can't find it anywhere.  It's reported everywhere BUT on one of their sites.

    Only poll I found was his approval ratings.

    So I wrote the above then I did some digging!!!

    Fox has this one poll hidden in their article.  You have to click on "Show Poll Results"
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-most-back-gun-restrictions-after-shootings-trump-ratings-down

    Click on it then scroll down to question 23.  I have the link already below.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-august-14

    Sneaky bastards.

     



    I read that fox poll much differently.  Trumps 43% approval (after that horrific mass murder) is damn close to the 46% he won with in 2016

    That tells me the dems make one small mistake (ahem MFA) Trump gets reelected. 
    Yes, it's a spin on the numbers.  His approval rating has always been around 43%
    It was actually 46% in the last Fox poll.....
    Overall he's down to 41.7. This includes a 5% drop in his favorite Rasmussen poll:
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

    I'd expect these numbers to continue to drop as more polls come out since the shootings and as more bad news comes out regarding the economy...
    By spin I meant that he has always hovered right around 43% and his disapproval rating has been about the same too since election.
    How is it spin, though? This is always good info to get the feel for how the country is thinking.

    He has always hovered around 40-42%, historically low numbers. This is primarily because of the economy he inherited. They go down, like they are now, when stuff like the shootings happen and then they tick back "up" since the economy has been good. 

    His disapproval is about as high as it's been in that particular poll, though. That's newsworthy. And the "tearing the country apart" numbers? My goodness. 60% of the country believes the president of this country is tearing us apart! That is literally insane. 

    Imagine what these numbers will look like as more people become aware of the economy heading towards recession....
    It is "spin" when his approval has always been around 43%.  I mentioned this earlier.

    It is spin when you make no mention that his disapproval rate has always been around 57%.

    Same numbers for the last 3 years.  I'm not surprised.  When you have a title of "Trump disapproval rating near 60%!" is nothing new if you've been following them the whole time.

    That is how I view it as spin.

    That "Tearing apart country" tidbit is quite telling too.  Read that whole questionnaire list I posted.  Very interesting.  I've never actually seen one before so that was very eyeopening in what they ask.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited August 2019
    56% disapproval. From a Fox News poll...

    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/457480-trump-disapproval-rises-to-near-record-fox-news-poll

    At this point, the ball's really in the Dems' court to not fuck this up. 
    From the same Fox poll:


    So I'm gonna call out this meme/stat whatever you want to call it.

    FOX has nothing posted anywhere on this.  I can't find it anywhere.  It's reported everywhere BUT on one of their sites.

    Only poll I found was his approval ratings.

    So I wrote the above then I did some digging!!!

    Fox has this one poll hidden in their article.  You have to click on "Show Poll Results"
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-most-back-gun-restrictions-after-shootings-trump-ratings-down

    Click on it then scroll down to question 23.  I have the link already below.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-august-14

    Sneaky bastards.

     



    I read that fox poll much differently.  Trumps 43% approval (after that horrific mass murder) is damn close to the 46% he won with in 2016

    That tells me the dems make one small mistake (ahem MFA) Trump gets reelected. 
    Yes, it's a spin on the numbers.  His approval rating has always been around 43%
    It was actually 46% in the last Fox poll.....
    Overall he's down to 41.7. This includes a 5% drop in his favorite Rasmussen poll:
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

    I'd expect these numbers to continue to drop as more polls come out since the shootings and as more bad news comes out regarding the economy...
    By spin I meant that he has always hovered right around 43% and his disapproval rating has been about the same too since election.
    How is it spin, though? This is always good info to get the feel for how the country is thinking.

    He has always hovered around 40-42%, historically low numbers. This is primarily because of the economy he inherited. They go down, like they are now, when stuff like the shootings happen and then they tick back "up" since the economy has been good. 

    His disapproval is about as high as it's been in that particular poll, though. That's newsworthy. And the "tearing the country apart" numbers? My goodness. 60% of the country believes the president of this country is tearing us apart! That is literally insane. 

    Imagine what these numbers will look like as more people become aware of the economy heading towards recession....
    It is "spin" when his approval has always been around 43%.  I mentioned this earlier.

    It is spin when you make no mention that his disapproval rate has always been around 57%.

    Same numbers for the last 3 years.  I'm not surprised.  When you have a title of "Trump disapproval rating near 60%!" is nothing new if you've been following them the whole time.

    That is how I view it as spin.

    That "Tearing apart country" tidbit is quite telling too.  Read that whole questionnaire list I posted.  Very interesting.  I've never actually seen one before so that was very eyeopening in what they ask.
    His disapproval number was 5% LOWER LAST MONTH and has not been this high in two years. That, my friend, is a significant change in a short amount of time.
    And the approval is 3% lower than last month. That is notable as well. 

    That is not spin. It's literally just reporting the results of the survey. 
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    56% disapproval. From a Fox News poll...

    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/457480-trump-disapproval-rises-to-near-record-fox-news-poll

    At this point, the ball's really in the Dems' court to not fuck this up. 
    From the same Fox poll:


    So I'm gonna call out this meme/stat whatever you want to call it.

    FOX has nothing posted anywhere on this.  I can't find it anywhere.  It's reported everywhere BUT on one of their sites.

    Only poll I found was his approval ratings.

    So I wrote the above then I did some digging!!!

    Fox has this one poll hidden in their article.  You have to click on "Show Poll Results"
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-most-back-gun-restrictions-after-shootings-trump-ratings-down

    Click on it then scroll down to question 23.  I have the link already below.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-august-14

    Sneaky bastards.

     



    I read that fox poll much differently.  Trumps 43% approval (after that horrific mass murder) is damn close to the 46% he won with in 2016

    That tells me the dems make one small mistake (ahem MFA) Trump gets reelected. 
    Yes, it's a spin on the numbers.  His approval rating has always been around 43%
    It was actually 46% in the last Fox poll.....
    Overall he's down to 41.7. This includes a 5% drop in his favorite Rasmussen poll:
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

    I'd expect these numbers to continue to drop as more polls come out since the shootings and as more bad news comes out regarding the economy...
    By spin I meant that he has always hovered right around 43% and his disapproval rating has been about the same too since election.
    How is it spin, though? This is always good info to get the feel for how the country is thinking.

    He has always hovered around 40-42%, historically low numbers. This is primarily because of the economy he inherited. They go down, like they are now, when stuff like the shootings happen and then they tick back "up" since the economy has been good. 

    His disapproval is about as high as it's been in that particular poll, though. That's newsworthy. And the "tearing the country apart" numbers? My goodness. 60% of the country believes the president of this country is tearing us apart! That is literally insane. 

    Imagine what these numbers will look like as more people become aware of the economy heading towards recession....
    It is "spin" when his approval has always been around 43%.  I mentioned this earlier.

    It is spin when you make no mention that his disapproval rate has always been around 57%.

    Same numbers for the last 3 years.  I'm not surprised.  When you have a title of "Trump disapproval rating near 60%!" is nothing new if you've been following them the whole time.

    That is how I view it as spin.

    That "Tearing apart country" tidbit is quite telling too.  Read that whole questionnaire list I posted.  Very interesting.  I've never actually seen one before so that was very eyeopening in what they ask.
    His disapproval number was 5% LOWER LAST MONTH and has not been this high in two years. That, my friend, is a significant change in a short amount of time.
    And the approval is 3% lower than last month. That is notable as well. 

    That is not spin. It's literally just reporting the results of the survey. 
    OK.  You don't see it like I do.  You even agreed that his numbers have averaged "He has always hovered around 40-42%,"

    If that's average then what is the story?  His approval ratings have been as low as 35%, that's still another 6% away.

    To me this is people making news that really isn't.  His ratings have been up and down almost every month of his presidency.  A very fickle audience.
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    OK, so 59% say "tearing it apart."  But some of them probably think it's a good thing.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    The GOP needs to start disowning this idiot.  His criticisms of the Fed are unreal.  We are a fucking laughing stock.
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  • Bentleyspop
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    The GOP needs to start disowning this idiot.  His criticisms of the Fed are unreal.  We are a fucking laughing stock.
    He's a textbook narcissist. 
    He will criticize and blame anyone and anything he believes is not doing what he wants.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    Now this Israel thing...the shit he says about Omar and Tlaib ("they hate all Jewish people") is off the fucking charts.

    And he's trying to suggest that he meant Xi should meet personally with the protesters rather than himself.  Unbelievable.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    edited August 2019
    The GOP needs to start disowning this idiot.  His criticisms of the Fed are unreal.  We are a fucking laughing stock.
    I am a cynical guy.  But I'd never have believed that, essentially, the entire GOP would be all-in on this level of idiocy and narcissism.  When he was elected, I thought he'd tone himself down...but I knew he was unfit for the job and that his being a total trainwreck was a possibility.  And I really thought that if that happened, the GOP would primary him.  I thought that they'd put country over party.  I think I underestimated two things: 1) the degree to which the right, particularly big-time politicians, care about "owning the libs" and 2) the level of dedication that his base would have, regardless of every stupid, selfish, embarrassing thing he's capable of.

    The result is that GOP "leaders" are 1) scared to lose votes from the dedicated base, 2) think it's all worth it to "own the libs," 3) have their eyes on one-party rule (which I think is a possible outcome), or 4) think he's the messiah just like the base does. 
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