Living without money.

brianlux
brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
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What a concept!  If I were younger and not happily attached, I would definitely consider trying this.  My wife read the book, The Man Who Quit Money by Mark Sundeen which she passed on to me.  It tells the story of Daniel Suelo who left his life savings of $30 in a phone booth in 2000 and has live without money since.  It's an amazing story.  There are others who have and are doing the same.  Here are some of those people:
Daniel Suelo:

Mark Boyle, also know as "The Moneyless Man", Irish activist and founder of Freeconomy Community, has lived without money since 2008:

I love this concept.  Oh to me young again!
"It's a sad and beautiful world"
-Roberto Benigni

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  • jwhjr17
    jwhjr17 Posts: 2,076
    No thanks
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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,887
    Into the wild


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    jwhjr17 said:
    No thanks
    I wouldn't want to do it permanently, even if I could, but at a n earlier age, I might have tried it for awhile.

    And there's more to the story than just living without money.  The book about Suelo really gets me thinking about my relationship to money and things. I think it's a very healthy idea to be at least more aware of what money means, how we live, what we think we want and what we need.  And it's a damn good read!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    lastexitlondon said:
    Into the wild
    That book and McCandless' quest for a simpler life was also inspiring.  And another fine read too!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    brianlux said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Into the wild
    That book and McCandless' quest for a simpler life was also inspiring.  And another fine read too!
    I have actually read that Alaska Authorities said that book and the story of McCandliss have been more harmful than anything.  McCandliss was ill-prepared and had no real idea of how to live off-grid or off the land.  Every year Alaska has to do some rescue's along that trail and just a couple weeks ago a honeymooning couple from Europe had tragedy strike when the newlywed bride died crossing a fast-moving river and was swept away 1feet  downriver...

    I wish the media would quit with the romance of living off the land.  Not much of society is equipped to live off the land...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    edited August 2019
    I don't see how this would be possible without completely taking advantage of other people's money or what they buy with it.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    PJ_Soul said:
    I don't see how this would be possible without completely taking advantage of other people's money or what they buy with it.
    She's back!
     :) 
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    I could not live without money...but I've done a great job of creating an affordable living lifestyle...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Meltdown99 said:
    brianlux said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Into the wild
    That book and McCandless' quest for a simpler life was also inspiring.  And another fine read too!
    I have actually read that Alaska Authorities said that book and the story of McCandliss have been more harmful than anything.  McCandliss was ill-prepared and had no real idea of how to live off-grid or off the land.  Every year Alaska has to do some rescue's along that trail and just a couple weeks ago a honeymooning couple from Europe had tragedy strike when the newlywed bride died crossing a fast-moving river and was swept away 1feet  downriver...

    I wish the media would quit with the romance of living off the land.  Not much of society is equipped to live off the land...
    That's because many people don't read carefully.  If they did, they would not go ou into the wild unprepared.  Krakauer knows these things.  He makes it clear.   Some people just don't think critically or plan well.  That's not Krakauer's fault.   As for the romance of living off the land, that is also not Krakauer's invention.  What is made of his book is not his doing.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    PJ_Soul said:
    I don't see how this would be possible without completely taking advantage of other people's money or what they buy with it.
    That's a logical question to ask. Sundeen addresses that quite early in the book. One of things that is noted is that Suelo's carbon"footprint" is small. The average American's is about 20 tons per year. Suelo's is close to that of an Ethiopian's- about 200 pounds. Much of what he lives on is scavenged, so he actually reduces energy consumption by removing and using waste that would be hauled off to land fills. He accepts hospitality that is freely given but accepts no funds from government programs funded by taxes. He also works (one of the things he's done is to volunteer at a shelter for abused women and children), but accepts no payment and does not barter.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,887
    I would do it. I hate money  and since ive been ill ive lived off  of fuck all for years now. I love the idea. If only  the idea. I get you bri


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    edited August 2019
    lastexitlondon said:
    I would do it. I hate money  and since ive been ill ive lived off  of fuck all for years now. I love the idea. If only  the idea. I get you bri
    Rob, you would love, love, love this book.  I've found it hugely inspiring and full of hope.  I totally get Elizabeth Gilbert's quote on the cover of the book:

    "This is a beautiful, thoughtful, and wonderful book.  I suspect I may find myself thinking about it every day for the rest of my life."

    Post edited by brianlux on
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Meltdown99 said:
    brianlux said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Into the wild
    That book and McCandless' quest for a simpler life was also inspiring.  And another fine read too!
    I have actually read that Alaska Authorities said that book and the story of McCandliss have been more harmful than anything.  McCandliss was ill-prepared and had no real idea of how to live off-grid or off the land.  Every year Alaska has to do some rescue's along that trail and just a couple weeks ago a honeymooning couple from Europe had tragedy strike when the newlywed bride died crossing a fast-moving river and was swept away 1feet  downriver...

    I wish the media would quit with the romance of living off the land.  Not much of society is equipped to live off the land...
    That is not an accurate summary of the McCandless story.  He was pretty well prepared and he was living quite successfully until he got sick, most likely from a fungal infection.

    Yes, his story has inspired idiots to exercise their idiocy, but a cursory glance at the SAR records of any major National Park will show that idiots love to exercise their idiocy at every opportunity.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    We barter when we can, my wife traded an emergency foreign body removal for a steering cable replacement for our boat yesterday lol
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,808
    brianlux said:
    What a concept!  If I were younger and not happily attached, I would definitely consider trying this.  My wife read the book, The Man Who Quit Money by Mark Sundeen which she passed on to me.  It tells the story of Daniel Suelo who left his life savings of $30 in a phone booth in 2000 and has live without money since.  It's an amazing story.  There are others who have and are doing the same.  Here are some of those people:
    Daniel Suelo:

    Mark Boyle, also know as "The Moneyless Man", Irish activist and founder of Freeconomy Community, has lived without money since 2008:

    I love this concept.  Oh to me young again!
    I would donate the Irish guy a Pearl jam shirt.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    F Me In The Brain said:
    brianlux said:
    What a concept!  If I were younger and not happily attached, I would definitely consider trying this.  My wife read the book, The Man Who Quit Money by Mark Sundeen which she passed on to me.  It tells the story of Daniel Suelo who left his life savings of $30 in a phone booth in 2000 and has live without money since.  It's an amazing story.  There are others who have and are doing the same.  Here are some of those people:
    Daniel Suelo:

    Mark Boyle, also know as "The Moneyless Man", Irish activist and founder of Freeconomy Community, has lived without money since 2008:

    I love this concept.  Oh to me young again!
    I would donate the Irish guy a Pearl jam shirt.
    :rofl:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    brianlux said:
    What a concept!  If I were younger and not happily attached, I would definitely consider trying this.  My wife read the book, The Man Who Quit Money by Mark Sundeen which she passed on to me.  It tells the story of Daniel Suelo who left his life savings of $30 in a phone booth in 2000 and has live without money since.  It's an amazing story.  There are others who have and are doing the same.  Here are some of those people:
    Daniel Suelo:

    Mark Boyle, also know as "The Moneyless Man", Irish activist and founder of Freeconomy Community, has lived without money since 2008:

    I love this concept.  Oh to me young again!
    living like this as a PJ fan is impossible
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    vaggar99 said:
    brianlux said:
    What a concept!  If I were younger and not happily attached, I would definitely consider trying this.  My wife read the book, The Man Who Quit Money by Mark Sundeen which she passed on to me.  It tells the story of Daniel Suelo who left his life savings of $30 in a phone booth in 2000 and has live without money since.  It's an amazing story.  There are others who have and are doing the same.  Here are some of those people:
    Daniel Suelo:

    Mark Boyle, also know as "The Moneyless Man", Irish activist and founder of Freeconomy Community, has lived without money since 2008:

    I love this concept.  Oh to me young again!
    living like this as a PJ fan is impossible
    Impossible?  How do you know neither of these guys is not a Pearl Jam fan? 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • pearljammr78
    pearljammr78 Posts: 1,613
    edited August 2019
    They may like Pearl Jam, but to love Pearl Jam takes money. 


    I kid,I kid 

    Yes to be young again. That lifestyle seems like a lot of work. And I’m to old and tired to even try. 
    Post edited by pearljammr78 on
    Peace,Love and Pearl Jam.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    pearljammr78 said:
    They may like Pearl Jam, but to love Pearl Jam takes money. 


    I kid,I kid 

    Yes to be young again. That lifestyle seems like a lot of work. And I’m to old and tired to even try. 
    I hear you!  I too old for a lot of things which is probably why I enjoy more than ever movies and books about things I can no longer do or even consider doing- living in the wild, mountaineering, playing guitar in a band in front of thousands of adoring fans (haha, like I could ever do that!)
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

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