2020 Tour Rumor Thread

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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,600
    edited August 2019
    on2legs said:
    PJNB said:
    You guys telling me you would prefer a show that is 25-28 songs long over a Denver 2014, Quebec 2016, Fenway 2 2016, Wrigley 2 2016, Rome 2018, Seattle 2 2018? Just naming a couple of long ones of the top of my head and I realize ballpark shows are not for everyone but we are talking setlist length here. 
    I wouldn’t mind a shorter set list if it meant we got back to more varied and less predictable sets.   A long show once in awhile is a treat but I don’t need every show to be like a final farewell performance with a bunch of covers jammed in.  Old school Pearl Jam sets - fast and furious - is fine with me. 
    The thing for me is always that the covers are unnecessary. Their catalog is deep enough to fill out a long show without them. One or two is fine but some nights they pepper both encores. 
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  • Abe Froman
    Abe Froman Posts: 5,381
    I don't understand people actually wanting shorter setlist :confused:  
    I'll add that not only do I not mind them doing covers, I fucking love most of them.  I do agree they could do a little more mixing of the sets especially playing a lot of "the hits" every show but also understand thats what most people want.  We are the crazy weirdo fans on here that want to here all the deep cuts.  I think most casual fans would be pretty disappointed if 10+ songs were deeper cuts they didn't know.
  • disilluzion
    disilluzion Posts: 1,015
    I think that PJ and Bruce should keep going back and forth, trying to get the longest sets.
  • JojoRice
    JojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,554
    I'll take anything at this point!
    "I got memories, I got shit"
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,600
    Abe Froman said:
    I don't understand people actually wanting shorter setlist :confused:  
    I'll add that not only do I not mind them doing covers, I fucking love most of them.  I do agree they could do a little more mixing of the sets especially playing a lot of "the hits" every show but also understand thats what most people want.  We are the crazy weirdo fans on here that want to here all the deep cuts.  I think most casual fans would be pretty disappointed if 10+ songs were deeper cuts they didn't know.
    Agreed on all points, from not wanting shorter setlists to us being crazy weirdo fans.
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  • brewdog123
    brewdog123 ATL Posts: 685
    i just want a true atlanta show, non festival. only been since 2003.
    Atlanta, GA 8/7/00...Atlanta, GA 4/19/03...Columbia, SC 6/16/08...New Orleans, LA 5/1/10...East Troy, WI 9/3/11... East Troy, WI 9/4/11... Atlanta, GA 9/22/12...Greenville, SC 4/16/16...Nashville, TN 9/16/22...Atlanta, GA 4/29/25...Atlanta, GA 5/1/25
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,131
    edited August 2019
    With the exception of baba I would be ok without covers..  there are ten albums plus how many b sides to choose from?
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    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • JojoRice
    JojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,554
    brewdog123 said:
    i just want a true atlanta show, non festival. only been since 2003.
    Makes 2 of us!
    "I got memories, I got shit"
  • lmckenney24
    lmckenney24 Posts: 2,101
    Make that 3
  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,325
    CopperTom said:
    Long is not a synonym for good.
    That’s not what my wife says.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

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  • drakeheuer14
    drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,623
    lmckenney24 said:
    Make that 3
    4
    Pittsburgh 2013
    Cincinnati 2014
    Greenville 2016
    (Raleigh 2016)
    Columbia 2016
  • CopperTom
    CopperTom Posts: 3,149
    drakeheuer14 said:
    lmckenney24 said:
    Make that 3
    4
    And make sure the Braves are home too.
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  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,378
    100 Pacer said:
    CopperTom said:
    Long is not a synonym for good.
    That’s not what my wife says.

    Fuck! I'm going to go ahead and leave this one alone. Maybe @dankind would like to chime in here? 🤣
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  • SandyRavage
    SandyRavage Posts: 1,126
    play UNDONE pussies!!!!!
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,600
    SandyRavage said:
    play UNDONE pussies!!!!!
    Boston 2010 was the last time this gem was played. Going on a decade since then.
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    darwinstheory said:
    I've been calling BS on all those who said they'd skip any ballpark shows. They are so full of it. This does not apply to those that have to REALLY travel for said ballpark shows. Of course we would all love arenas, but....

    I live in Seattle. I skipped the 2 in Seattle last year. I won't pay to see anyone, even Pearl Jam, play a ballpark or stadium. I've seen PJ in arenas, amphitheaters, a symphony hall (Benaroya), and a couple of times at The Showbox, so maybe I'm spoiled. Zero interest in ballparks.
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    jeffbr said:
    darwinstheory said:
    I've been calling BS on all those who said they'd skip any ballpark shows. They are so full of it. This does not apply to those that have to REALLY travel for said ballpark shows. Of course we would all love arenas, but....

    I live in Seattle. I skipped the 2 in Seattle last year. I won't pay to see anyone, even Pearl Jam, play a ballpark or stadium. I've seen PJ in arenas, amphitheaters, a symphony hall (Benaroya), and a couple of times at The Showbox, so maybe I'm spoiled. Zero interest in ballparks.
    You missed a hell of a show then. Too bad the venue stopped you from going. 
  • pearljammr78
    pearljammr78 Posts: 1,613
    Yea. I’m not a fan at all of ballparks but I traveled from California for Seattle 2 last year and it was an epic show. But I was about 10 rows or so back on the floor. Plus Seattle is awesome so any excuse to go I will. Plus got to see the MoPop PJ exhibit after the show and that was awesome too. 
    Peace,Love and Pearl Jam.
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,907
    Abe Froman said:
    I don't understand people actually wanting shorter setlist :confused:  
    I'll add that not only do I not mind them doing covers, I fucking love most of them.  I do agree they could do a little more mixing of the sets especially playing a lot of "the hits" every show but also understand thats what most people want.  We are the crazy weirdo fans on here that want to here all the deep cuts.  I think most casual fans would be pretty disappointed if 10+ songs were deeper cuts they didn't know.
    I agree.    I like the longer setlists and I also like the covers.   If you're going to play 35 songs, there's room for covers.   Some of the covers are Pearl Jam staples.  Sonic Reducer, I've Got a Feeling, Masters of War, Baba O' Riley, Crazy Mary... they feel less like covers and more like PJ songs to me.  Many of which have studio recordings by PJ.   There's a few specific covers I've grown wary of (ahem RITFW), but I do enjoy most of them. 

    I think the only issue I really have with Pearl Jam shows is only an issue when you go to multiple ones.   The things that they repeat night in, night out.  All the encores end with Porch and Rearviewmirror.   They're going to play DTE, Corduroy, extended Even Flow.    Most shows end with Yellow Ledbetter (which I love, but bums me out because the show is over).  If you only went to a show once and a while you'd never notice, but when you've seen a bunch over the years, those moments are less exciting.   I don't think they'd change this if they played short shows or long shows.  At least with long shows the other songs between the tentpole moments are more numerous and enjoyful :)

    I do think PJ has a pretty die hard fan base.  Hence why they can play deep cuts in the first place.  Most bands play a deep cut and you can hear a pin drop (akin to playing a new song, before the album has dropped).   I think because of how many die hards there are, they can liberally play what they want.   I can't even remember the last time I randomly talked to some one before/after/at a PJ show and it was their first show.  Maybe if they brought their kid or something.. then it might be the kids first show.    Most of the time.. it's more what show # is this for you, and where are you from? :)
  • CopperTom
    CopperTom Posts: 3,149
    2020 MLB schedule was released yesterday.  You can check ballpark availability now.
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