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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    tempo_n_groove said:
    He condemns racism, bigotry and white supremacy.
    He says he condemns racism, bigotry and white supremacy. 

    there is a difference.
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    tempo_n_groove said:
    ikiT said:
    rounding up the mentally ill...what could go wrong?

    Did he really say he wants to gather up the mentally ill?

    Googling now!
    I'm guessing you didn't find anything.
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  • tempo_n_groove
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    ikiT said:
    rounding up the mentally ill...what could go wrong?

    Did he really say he wants to gather up the mentally ill?

    Googling now!
    I'm guessing you didn't find anything.
    Yes I did.  It wasn't what I was envisioning.  I thought he was going to undo what Reagan had done but instead he blamed Mental Illness on a shooting.

    This might kickstart a law about mental stability and owning a firearm?
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    ikiT said:
    rounding up the mentally ill...what could go wrong?

    Did he really say he wants to gather up the mentally ill?

    Googling now!
    I'm guessing you didn't find anything.
    Yes I did.  It wasn't what I was envisioning.  I thought he was going to undo what Reagan had done but instead he blamed Mental Illness on a shooting.

    This might kickstart a law about mental stability and owning a firearm?
    I saw that he was blaming mental illness (and moronically, video games). I was wondering if you found anything about him "rounding up" the mentally ill. Because I couldn't find anything like that. 
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    February 11, 2018

    My fellow Americans,

    This week, prosecutors, law enforcement officers, homeland security officials, and lawmakers joined me at the White House to address a very vicious threat to our communities—the savage gang, MS-13.

    Glaring loopholes in our laws have allowed criminals and gang members to break into our country. For example, under current law, unaccompanied alien minors at the border are released into American communities no matter where, no matter how, it is so easy for them because the laws are bad and they have to be changed. This loophole is easily exploited by MS-13, which now operates in at least 40 states.

    In addition to MS-13, many other gangs are breaking into our country routinely because our laws are so weak, so sad, so pathetic.

    At this week’s roundtable, we learned the story of one family right here in Washington, D.C. that hosted a person in their home, who then began to recruit their young son to MS-13. When the boy’s mother tried to stop it, the gang member shot her in the head, blinding her for life. She’s lucky she lived, but she’s paying a very big price.

    During my State of the Union, I called on Congress to immediately close dangerous loopholes in federal law that have endangered our communities and imposed enormous burdens on U.S. taxpayers.

    My Administration has identified three major priorities for creating a safe, modern and lawful immigration system: fully securing the border, ending chain migration, and canceling the visa lottery. Chain migration is a disaster and very unfair to our country. The visa lottery is something that should have never been allowed in the first place. People enter a lottery to come into our country. What kind of a system is that? It is time for Congress to act and to protect Americans. Every member of Congress should choose the side of law enforcement, and the side of the American People. That’s the way it has to be.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    OnWis97 said:
    Did Trump just ask God to bless the victims in TOLEDO?

    (Yes)
    Because he "really" cares and hasn't forgotten the victims in Vegas.
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    February 16, 2017

    I’m here following through on what I pledged to do.  That’s all I’m doing.  I put it out before the American people.  Got 306 Electoral College votes.  I wasn’t supposed to get 222.  They said there’s no way to get 222; 230 is impossible.  Two hundred and seventy, which you need, that was laughable.  We got 306 because people came out and voted like they’ve never seen before.  So that’s the way it goes.  I guess it was the biggest Electoral College win since Ronald Reagan.  
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    edited August 2019
    August 5, 2019

    WE MUST REFORM OUR MENTAL HEALTH LAWS TO BETTER IDENTIFY MENTALLY DISTURBED INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY COMMIT ACTS OF VIOLENCE AND MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE NOT ONLY GET TREATMENT BUT, WHEN NECESSARY, INVOLUNTARY CONFINEMENT. MENTAL ILLNESS AND HATRED PULLS THE... 
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    resign already
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    ikiT said:
    August 5, 2019

    WE MUST REFORM OUR MENTAL HEALTH LAWS TO BETTER IDENTIFY MENTALLY DISTURBED INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY COMMIT ACTS OF VIOLENCE AND MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE NOT ONLY GET TREATMENT BUT, WHEN NECESSARY, INVOLUNTARY CONFINEMENT. MENTAL ILLNESS AND HATRED PULLS THE... 
    So he does want to round them up.

    TY.
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    tempo_n_groove said:
    ikiT said:
    August 5, 2019

    WE MUST REFORM OUR MENTAL HEALTH LAWS TO BETTER IDENTIFY MENTALLY DISTURBED INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY COMMIT ACTS OF VIOLENCE AND MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE NOT ONLY GET TREATMENT BUT, WHEN NECESSARY, INVOLUNTARY CONFINEMENT. MENTAL ILLNESS AND HATRED PULLS THE... 
    So he does want to round them up.

    TY.
    Involuntary commitment of mentally ill and dangerous individuals happens everyday. That’s different than rounding up any and all mentally ill folks like the Nazis did. I don’t think Trump meant that. But ya never know. If anyone would scapegoat harmless mentally ill folks for political reasons, I guess he’d be the guy. 
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    edited August 2019
    A little comp of Trump stoking racial tensions. Some are worse than others, but jeez, it sure is adding up. 

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/08/05/trump-and-race-presidents-critics-say-he-has-stoked-racial-tensions/1921410001/

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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059

    In a civil society you can't walk around threatening people, something shit for brains does DAILY.

    He incites people to violence, illegal in all 50 states.

    Fun fact....he's crashing the stock market today in case you haven't noticed.

    You're welcome.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    ikiT said:
    August 5, 2019

    WE MUST REFORM OUR MENTAL HEALTH LAWS TO BETTER IDENTIFY MENTALLY DISTURBED INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY COMMIT ACTS OF VIOLENCE AND MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE NOT ONLY GET TREATMENT BUT, WHEN NECESSARY, INVOLUNTARY CONFINEMENT. MENTAL ILLNESS AND HATRED PULLS THE... 
    So he does want to round them up.

    TY.
    Involuntary commitment of mentally ill and dangerous individuals happens everyday. That’s different than rounding up any and all mentally ill folks like the Nazis did. I don’t think Trump meant that. But ya never know. If anyone would scapegoat harmless mentally ill folks for political reasons, I guess he’d be the guy. 
    If your city was inundated with them you might feel different about that.  Just sayin'.
  • Gern Blansten
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    ikiT said:
    August 5, 2019

    WE MUST REFORM OUR MENTAL HEALTH LAWS TO BETTER IDENTIFY MENTALLY DISTURBED INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY COMMIT ACTS OF VIOLENCE AND MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE NOT ONLY GET TREATMENT BUT, WHEN NECESSARY, INVOLUNTARY CONFINEMENT. MENTAL ILLNESS AND HATRED PULLS THE... 
    So he does want to round them up.

    TY.
    Involuntary commitment of mentally ill and dangerous individuals happens everyday. That’s different than rounding up any and all mentally ill folks like the Nazis did. I don’t think Trump meant that. But ya never know. If anyone would scapegoat harmless mentally ill folks for political reasons, I guess he’d be the guy. 
    And imagine the infrastructure that would need to be in place to identify potential shooters.  We would all need mental evaluations monthly.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    Gern Blansten said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    ikiT said:
    August 5, 2019

    WE MUST REFORM OUR MENTAL HEALTH LAWS TO BETTER IDENTIFY MENTALLY DISTURBED INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY COMMIT ACTS OF VIOLENCE AND MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE NOT ONLY GET TREATMENT BUT, WHEN NECESSARY, INVOLUNTARY CONFINEMENT. MENTAL ILLNESS AND HATRED PULLS THE... 
    So he does want to round them up.

    TY.
    Involuntary commitment of mentally ill and dangerous individuals happens everyday. That’s different than rounding up any and all mentally ill folks like the Nazis did. I don’t think Trump meant that. But ya never know. If anyone would scapegoat harmless mentally ill folks for political reasons, I guess he’d be the guy. 
    And imagine the infrastructure that would need to be in place to identify potential shooters.  We would all need mental evaluations monthly.
    Connecticut has something like that on their law books.  If someone seems unstable, you call the cops and they take your firearms away until you get evaluated.
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    They're gonna base who they INVOLUNTARY CONFINE off of the social media, so yo try not to be such a dissident promoting MAD radical ideas.

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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    Gern Blansten said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    ikiT said:
    August 5, 2019

    WE MUST REFORM OUR MENTAL HEALTH LAWS TO BETTER IDENTIFY MENTALLY DISTURBED INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY COMMIT ACTS OF VIOLENCE AND MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE NOT ONLY GET TREATMENT BUT, WHEN NECESSARY, INVOLUNTARY CONFINEMENT. MENTAL ILLNESS AND HATRED PULLS THE... 
    So he does want to round them up.

    TY.
    Involuntary commitment of mentally ill and dangerous individuals happens everyday. That’s different than rounding up any and all mentally ill folks like the Nazis did. I don’t think Trump meant that. But ya never know. If anyone would scapegoat harmless mentally ill folks for political reasons, I guess he’d be the guy. 
    And imagine the infrastructure that would need to be in place to identify potential shooters.  We would all need mental evaluations monthly.
    I still think the best way to identify potential shooters is by taking seriously any "red flags" you may come across. Like I was saying earlier, the one shooter that had a "kill list" needed to be taken seriously (not just suspended from school) and a mental health evaluation should be mandatory for someone like that. 

    And frankly, evaluation or not, having a "kill list" should one way or another end up on someone's background check. Not for the whole world to see. But for gun retailers need to be informed of that shit. 
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    ikiT said:
    August 5, 2019

    WE MUST REFORM OUR MENTAL HEALTH LAWS TO BETTER IDENTIFY MENTALLY DISTURBED INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY COMMIT ACTS OF VIOLENCE AND MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE NOT ONLY GET TREATMENT BUT, WHEN NECESSARY, INVOLUNTARY CONFINEMENT. MENTAL ILLNESS AND HATRED PULLS THE... 
    So he does want to round them up.

    TY.
    Involuntary commitment of mentally ill and dangerous individuals happens everyday. That’s different than rounding up any and all mentally ill folks like the Nazis did. I don’t think Trump meant that. But ya never know. If anyone would scapegoat harmless mentally ill folks for political reasons, I guess he’d be the guy. 
    If your city was inundated with them you might feel different about that.  Just sayin'.
    Not sure what you just sayin' here. If my city was inundated with what? Mentally ill individuals? If so, when I say "harmless mentally ill folks," I'm talking specially about people that have mental health disorders (autism, etc) but aren't threats to ever shoot a gun. Not the ones that are so dangerous that an involuntary commitment is needed for. 
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    ikiT said:
    August 5, 2019

    WE MUST REFORM OUR MENTAL HEALTH LAWS TO BETTER IDENTIFY MENTALLY DISTURBED INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY COMMIT ACTS OF VIOLENCE AND MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE NOT ONLY GET TREATMENT BUT, WHEN NECESSARY, INVOLUNTARY CONFINEMENT. MENTAL ILLNESS AND HATRED PULLS THE... 
    So he does want to round them up.

    TY.
    Involuntary commitment of mentally ill and dangerous individuals happens everyday. That’s different than rounding up any and all mentally ill folks like the Nazis did. I don’t think Trump meant that. But ya never know. If anyone would scapegoat harmless mentally ill folks for political reasons, I guess he’d be the guy. 
    If your city was inundated with them you might feel different about that.  Just sayin'.
    Not sure what you just sayin' here. If my city was inundated with what? Mentally ill individuals? If so, when I say "harmless mentally ill folks," I'm talking specially about people that have mental health disorders (autism, etc) but aren't threats to ever shoot a gun. Not the ones that are so dangerous that an involuntary commitment is needed for. 
    Got it.  When I think of mentally ill I don't think of autistic people but people with serious mental conditions, schizophrenia, bipolar.  The ones I see roaming the streets and yelling at the passing cars.
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