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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    mrussel1 said:
    Also, as a general rule of thumb, very few words originally derive from acronyms, and those that do are relatively new ones. 
    I agree that acronyms are relatively recent in history, but I'm not sure that closes the case.  I always found this one interesting.  I just read the "Snopes" on this, but I think the author makes a conclusion based on a bad assumption.  He says the because the stocks would treat the word "for" as superfluous, it can't be the origin.  That seems like rather silly evidence, using that as your only reason.  Now it's hard to prove a negative, proving that something didn't exist, so I get that.  I'm still going to use it though.  
    Van Halen used it on their album too!
    Yeah I remember I was 'seeing' this girl at the time and we referred to her affectionately as "poundcake".  I think that was the only decent song from that album. 
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,411
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Also, as a general rule of thumb, very few words originally derive from acronyms, and those that do are relatively new ones. 
    I agree that acronyms are relatively recent in history, but I'm not sure that closes the case.  I always found this one interesting.  I just read the "Snopes" on this, but I think the author makes a conclusion based on a bad assumption.  He says the because the stocks would treat the word "for" as superfluous, it can't be the origin.  That seems like rather silly evidence, using that as your only reason.  Now it's hard to prove a negative, proving that something didn't exist, so I get that.  I'm still going to use it though.  
    Van Halen used it on their album too!
    Yeah I remember I was 'seeing' this girl at the time and we referred to her affectionately as "poundcake".  I think that was the only decent song from that album. 
    You are mistaken as there aren't any good songs on that album...
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Also, as a general rule of thumb, very few words originally derive from acronyms, and those that do are relatively new ones. 
    I agree that acronyms are relatively recent in history, but I'm not sure that closes the case.  I always found this one interesting.  I just read the "Snopes" on this, but I think the author makes a conclusion based on a bad assumption.  He says the because the stocks would treat the word "for" as superfluous, it can't be the origin.  That seems like rather silly evidence, using that as your only reason.  Now it's hard to prove a negative, proving that something didn't exist, so I get that.  I'm still going to use it though.  
    Van Halen used it on their album too!
    Yeah I remember I was 'seeing' this girl at the time and we referred to her affectionately as "poundcake".  I think that was the only decent song from that album. 
    You are mistaken as there aren't any good songs on that album...
    Ha! Touche.  It sucked.  
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,309

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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mrussel1 said:
    Also, as a general rule of thumb, very few words originally derive from acronyms, and those that do are relatively new ones. 
    I agree that acronyms are relatively recent in history, but I'm not sure that closes the case.  I always found this one interesting.  I just read the "Snopes" on this, but I think the author makes a conclusion based on a bad assumption.  He says the because the stocks would treat the word "for" as superfluous, it can't be the origin.  That seems like rather silly evidence, using that as your only reason.  Now it's hard to prove a negative, proving that something didn't exist, so I get that.  I'm still going to use it though.  
    Snopes isn’t the only source that disagrees with you. You seem so convinced  of your origin story - is fuck really the hill you want to die on? :lol: 
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,837
    mrussel1 said:
    Also, as a general rule of thumb, very few words originally derive from acronyms, and those that do are relatively new ones. 
    I agree that acronyms are relatively recent in history, but I'm not sure that closes the case.  I always found this one interesting.  I just read the "Snopes" on this, but I think the author makes a conclusion based on a bad assumption.  He says the because the stocks would treat the word "for" as superfluous, it can't be the origin.  That seems like rather silly evidence, using that as your only reason.  Now it's hard to prove a negative, proving that something didn't exist, so I get that.  I'm still going to use it though.  
    Snopes isn’t the only source that disagrees with you. You seem so convinced  of your origin story - is fuck really the hill you want to die on? :lol: 
    If you are going to die anyway...that sounds like the hill to do it on
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,286
    I thought Eddie explained it one of the two Boston shows last year?
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    mrussel1 said:
    Also, as a general rule of thumb, very few words originally derive from acronyms, and those that do are relatively new ones. 
    I agree that acronyms are relatively recent in history, but I'm not sure that closes the case.  I always found this one interesting.  I just read the "Snopes" on this, but I think the author makes a conclusion based on a bad assumption.  He says the because the stocks would treat the word "for" as superfluous, it can't be the origin.  That seems like rather silly evidence, using that as your only reason.  Now it's hard to prove a negative, proving that something didn't exist, so I get that.  I'm still going to use it though.  
    Snopes isn’t the only source that disagrees with you. You seem so convinced  of your origin story - is fuck really the hill you want to die on? :lol: 
    I've believed this for the better part of 30 years.  Internet hacks won't convince me of otherwise.  Now if a true historian or etymologist comes out with something (if they bother), then probably.  Until then, I'll continue to have fun with it.  
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    I thought Eddie explained it one of the two Boston shows last year?
    Yeah, and he marveled at the multiple uses of the word.  And then told politicians to fuck off.  So I guess his story had a point.  
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,411
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    edited July 2019
    PJ_Soul said:
    FWIW Brian, I don't think we've crossed any line and aren't at risk of getting banned from this conversation. ;)
    Like I already said, I do think there are real reasons to be very concerned about the honeybee die off, if what you are concerned about is the food supply/agriculture (but also about the ecosystem in general). And I really think we need to be concerned about that, especially as I also think we are RIGHT on the edge of some really serious problems because of climate change. We need all the successful crops we can get right now. But also, other pollinators are indeed dying off. Here are a couple articles:



    I should add.... isn't a whole species, whatever it is, becoming threatened and going through a massive die-off a legit thing to feel outraged about in any case, especially considering the fact that pesticide use is a major factor in it happening?
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/wild-bee-population_n_5d374e6fe4b004b6adb709d6

    Honeybees are destroying America, and they need to go back to the shithole countries from which they came. :lol:
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    mrussel1 said:
    Also, as a general rule of thumb, very few words originally derive from acronyms, and those that do are relatively new ones. 
    I agree that acronyms are relatively recent in history, but I'm not sure that closes the case.  I always found this one interesting.  I just read the "Snopes" on this, but I think the author makes a conclusion based on a bad assumption.  He says the because the stocks would treat the word "for" as superfluous, it can't be the origin.  That seems like rather silly evidence, using that as your only reason.  Now it's hard to prove a negative, proving that something didn't exist, so I get that.  I'm still going to use it though.  
    Snopes isn’t the only source that disagrees with you. You seem so convinced  of your origin story - is fuck really the hill you want to die on? :lol: 
    When did SNOPES (Super Neighborly Organization to Prove Everyone's Shit) start spelling itself out with lower-case letters?
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    dankind said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    FWIW Brian, I don't think we've crossed any line and aren't at risk of getting banned from this conversation. ;)
    Like I already said, I do think there are real reasons to be very concerned about the honeybee die off, if what you are concerned about is the food supply/agriculture (but also about the ecosystem in general). And I really think we need to be concerned about that, especially as I also think we are RIGHT on the edge of some really serious problems because of climate change. We need all the successful crops we can get right now. But also, other pollinators are indeed dying off. Here are a couple articles:



    I should add.... isn't a whole species, whatever it is, becoming threatened and going through a massive die-off a legit thing to feel outraged about in any case, especially considering the fact that pesticide use is a major factor in it happening?
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/wild-bee-population_n_5d374e6fe4b004b6adb709d6

    Honeybees are destroying America, and they need to go back to the shithole countries from which they came. :lol:
    LOL

    Good article, actually.  It points out why wild bees are more important (and at least as endangered) as imported exotics like the honeybee.

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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    dankind said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    FWIW Brian, I don't think we've crossed any line and aren't at risk of getting banned from this conversation. ;)
    Like I already said, I do think there are real reasons to be very concerned about the honeybee die off, if what you are concerned about is the food supply/agriculture (but also about the ecosystem in general). And I really think we need to be concerned about that, especially as I also think we are RIGHT on the edge of some really serious problems because of climate change. We need all the successful crops we can get right now. But also, other pollinators are indeed dying off. Here are a couple articles:



    I should add.... isn't a whole species, whatever it is, becoming threatened and going through a massive die-off a legit thing to feel outraged about in any case, especially considering the fact that pesticide use is a major factor in it happening?
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/wild-bee-population_n_5d374e6fe4b004b6adb709d6

    Honeybees are destroying America, and they need to go back to the shithole countries from which they came. :lol:
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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Rage Against the Machine’s ‘The Battle of Los Angeles’ Is 20, and It Hasn’t Aged a Day
    Rage was loud, angry, and activist. They saw the future and screamed about it. Until they didn’t anymore.
    https://www.theringer.com/music/2019/7/29/8934549/rage-against-the-machine-battle-los-angeles-best-album-1999
    good read
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,490
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Also, as a general rule of thumb, very few words originally derive from acronyms, and those that do are relatively new ones. 
    I agree that acronyms are relatively recent in history, but I'm not sure that closes the case.  I always found this one interesting.  I just read the "Snopes" on this, but I think the author makes a conclusion based on a bad assumption.  He says the because the stocks would treat the word "for" as superfluous, it can't be the origin.  That seems like rather silly evidence, using that as your only reason.  Now it's hard to prove a negative, proving that something didn't exist, so I get that.  I'm still going to use it though.  
    Van Halen used it on their album too!
    Yeah I remember I was 'seeing' this girl at the time and we referred to her affectionately as "poundcake".  I think that was the only decent song from that album. 
    You are mistaken as there aren't any good songs on that album...
    Ha! Touche.  It sucked.  
    as a guy who was about 15 when that album came out, I wholeheartedly disagree that it sucked. it was on constant rotation in my buddy's mustang to and from the beach every weekend. 

    and to answer your next question, yes, i was still a flaming virgin at the end of that summer. But FUCK ROCKED! 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Also, as a general rule of thumb, very few words originally derive from acronyms, and those that do are relatively new ones. 
    I agree that acronyms are relatively recent in history, but I'm not sure that closes the case.  I always found this one interesting.  I just read the "Snopes" on this, but I think the author makes a conclusion based on a bad assumption.  He says the because the stocks would treat the word "for" as superfluous, it can't be the origin.  That seems like rather silly evidence, using that as your only reason.  Now it's hard to prove a negative, proving that something didn't exist, so I get that.  I'm still going to use it though.  
    Van Halen used it on their album too!
    Yeah I remember I was 'seeing' this girl at the time and we referred to her affectionately as "poundcake".  I think that was the only decent song from that album. 
    You are mistaken as there aren't any good songs on that album...
    Ha! Touche.  It sucked.  
    as a guy who was about 15 when that album came out, I wholeheartedly disagree that it sucked. it was on constant rotation in my buddy's mustang to and from the beach every weekend. 

    and to answer your next question, yes, i was still a flaming virgin at the end of that summer. But FUCK ROCKED! 
    Is that nostalgia or can you still say it's good?
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,490
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Also, as a general rule of thumb, very few words originally derive from acronyms, and those that do are relatively new ones. 
    I agree that acronyms are relatively recent in history, but I'm not sure that closes the case.  I always found this one interesting.  I just read the "Snopes" on this, but I think the author makes a conclusion based on a bad assumption.  He says the because the stocks would treat the word "for" as superfluous, it can't be the origin.  That seems like rather silly evidence, using that as your only reason.  Now it's hard to prove a negative, proving that something didn't exist, so I get that.  I'm still going to use it though.  
    Van Halen used it on their album too!
    Yeah I remember I was 'seeing' this girl at the time and we referred to her affectionately as "poundcake".  I think that was the only decent song from that album. 
    You are mistaken as there aren't any good songs on that album...
    Ha! Touche.  It sucked.  
    as a guy who was about 15 when that album came out, I wholeheartedly disagree that it sucked. it was on constant rotation in my buddy's mustang to and from the beach every weekend. 

    and to answer your next question, yes, i was still a flaming virgin at the end of that summer. But FUCK ROCKED! 
    Is that nostalgia or can you still say it's good?
    I haven't listened to VH in years, and don't really care to, it's not my thing anymore, but I honestly think it's still a really good record. 

    I'm going to put on that record just for giggles later. I'll report back tomorrow. 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,125
    See the pj Halloween T-shirt thread for some fake outrage. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    ^ That's for sure!
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