Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez

mrussel1 · July 2019

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Trump is a fucking racist....you tRumpsters are just going to have to accept that

I'm not a Trumpster, a trumpet a P-tape enthusiast or a flutist.

I just disagree.

You have to see the pattern. While her statement may not be racial in nature, there are countless instances of blatant racism by Trump's words and actions.

Gern Blansten · July 2019

jeffbr said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/sep/22/donald-trump-nfl-national-anthem-protests

But he did say it....

jeffbr said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/sep/22/donald-trump-nfl-national-anthem-protests

But he did say it....

Exactly. ‘Get that son of a bitch off the field right now. Out! He’s fired. He’s fired!’ when talking about a black man protesting racial injustice. When talking about white men protesting racial injustice in Charlotte "very fine people". Again, that's the pattern I'm talking about. In isolation, most examples may not be particularly convincing to people. But taken together, a pattern emerges.

I missed that part where he calls the player a "black player". Show me that part again?

You are both putting in words and making it mean something entirely different.

The "Very fine people" one is just him being dumb, it really is blown out of proportion.

Why am I defending Trump right now? Because I disagree with the context in which the opposing argument is being used.

no one said that he said "black player"....no one. But the dude was black....and he called him a son of a bitch.

Actually Jeff did. Just scroll up.

That is my argument. It was players protesting, his statement made it racial.

That is what I am bothered with and why I highlighted it in the first place.

But that is exactly who he was talking about. At the time it started with Kaepernick. Michael Bennett joined in solidarity. Then a number of other black players. Remember, they were protesting police injustice against African Americans. Trump had some sort of apoplexy about this, and started tweet storming. As a reaction we started seeing white players join in solidarity. But this was initially a black protest against police brutality toward African Americans. So yes, I did say "black players", because that is who Trump was referring to.

Exactly....his message was clearly to rile up his racist followers

tempo_n_groove · July 2019

Gern Blansten said:

jeffbr said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/sep/22/donald-trump-nfl-national-anthem-protests

But he did say it....

jeffbr said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/sep/22/donald-trump-nfl-national-anthem-protests

But he did say it....

Exactly. ‘Get that son of a bitch off the field right now. Out! He’s fired. He’s fired!’ when talking about a black man protesting racial injustice. When talking about white men protesting racial injustice in Charlotte "very fine people". Again, that's the pattern I'm talking about. In isolation, most examples may not be particularly convincing to people. But taken together, a pattern emerges.

I missed that part where he calls the player a "black player". Show me that part again?

You are both putting in words and making it mean something entirely different.

The "Very fine people" one is just him being dumb, it really is blown out of proportion.

Why am I defending Trump right now? Because I disagree with the context in which the opposing argument is being used.

no one said that he said "black player"....no one. But the dude was black....and he called him a son of a bitch.

Actually Jeff did. Just scroll up.

That is my argument. It was players protesting, his statement made it racial.

That is what I am bothered with and why I highlighted it in the first place.

But that is exactly who he was talking about. At the time it started with Kaepernick. Michael Bennett joined in solidarity. Then a number of other black players. Remember, they were protesting police injustice against African Americans. Trump had some sort of apoplexy about this, and started tweet storming. As a reaction we started seeing white players join in solidarity. But this was initially a black protest against police brutality toward African Americans. So yes, I did say "black players", because that is who Trump was referring to.

Exactly....his message was clearly to rile up his racist followers

I can get behind part of that statement. Racists definitely follow him, no doubt.

There is a pattern of people that do follow him then others that don't fit in at all, maybe they are just RINO's?

tempo_n_groove · July 2019

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Trump is a fucking racist....you tRumpsters are just going to have to accept that

I'm not a Trumpster, a trumpet a P-tape enthusiast or a flutist.

I just disagree.

You have to see the pattern. While her statement may not be racial in nature, there are countless instances of blatant racism by Trump's words and actions.

If you would agree that the statement isn't "racist in nature" then it shouldn't be lumped in with other perceived slights either.

I don't think building a wall is racist either, it's a border, it needs a fence/wall, It is however, a very expensive and dumb idea.

Spiritual_Chaos · July 2019

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Trump is a fucking racist....you tRumpsters are just going to have to accept that

I'm not a Trumpster, a trumpet a P-tape enthusiast or a flutist.

I just disagree.

You have to see the pattern. While her statement may not be racial in nature, there are countless instances of blatant racism by Trump's words and actions.

If you would agree that the statement isn't "racist in nature" then it shouldn't be lumped in with other perceived slights either.

I don't think building a wall is racist either, it's a border, it needs a fence/wall, It is however, a very expensive and dumb idea.

But what if the Ku Klux Klan wants to build a wall just to keep those less worth black people out? Is it a racist act then?

mrussel1 · July 2019

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Trump is a fucking racist....you tRumpsters are just going to have to accept that

I'm not a Trumpster, a trumpet a P-tape enthusiast or a flutist.

I just disagree.

You have to see the pattern. While her statement may not be racial in nature, there are countless instances of blatant racism by Trump's words and actions.

If you would agree that the statement isn't "racist in nature" then it shouldn't be lumped in with other perceived slights either.

I don't think building a wall is racist either, it's a border, it needs a fence/wall, It is however, a very expensive and dumb idea.

I said... may not be... he's created an environment where everything is easily viewed from that lens. It's if his own design I believe.

mcgruff10 · July 2019

Spiritual_Chaos said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Trump is a fucking racist....you tRumpsters are just going to have to accept that

I'm not a Trumpster, a trumpet a P-tape enthusiast or a flutist.

I just disagree.

You have to see the pattern. While her statement may not be racial in nature, there are countless instances of blatant racism by Trump's words and actions.

If you would agree that the statement isn't "racist in nature" then it shouldn't be lumped in with other perceived slights either.

I don't think building a wall is racist either, it's a border, it needs a fence/wall, It is however, a very expensive and dumb idea.

But what if the Ku Klux Klan wants to build a wall just to keep those less worth black people out? Is it a racist act then?

Do you actually think about your questions before posting them?

tempo_n_groove · July 2019

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Trump is a fucking racist....you tRumpsters are just going to have to accept that

I'm not a Trumpster, a trumpet a P-tape enthusiast or a flutist.

I just disagree.

You have to see the pattern. While her statement may not be racial in nature, there are countless instances of blatant racism by Trump's words and actions.

If you would agree that the statement isn't "racist in nature" then it shouldn't be lumped in with other perceived slights either.

I don't think building a wall is racist either, it's a border, it needs a fence/wall, It is however, a very expensive and dumb idea.

But what if the Ku Klux Klan wants to build a wall just to keep those less worth black people out? Is it a racist act then?

Do you actually think about your questions before posting them?

That one had to have been a joke, had to be.

mrussel1 · July 2019

tempo_n_groove said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Trump is a fucking racist....you tRumpsters are just going to have to accept that

I'm not a Trumpster, a trumpet a P-tape enthusiast or a flutist.

I just disagree.

You have to see the pattern. While her statement may not be racial in nature, there are countless instances of blatant racism by Trump's words and actions.

If you would agree that the statement isn't "racist in nature" then it shouldn't be lumped in with other perceived slights either.

I don't think building a wall is racist either, it's a border, it needs a fence/wall, It is however, a very expensive and dumb idea.

But what if the Ku Klux Klan wants to build a wall just to keep those less worth black people out? Is it a racist act then?

Do you actually think about your questions before posting them?

That one had to have been a joke, had to be.

It's a troll, not a joke.

mcgruff10 · July 2019

tempo_n_groove said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Trump is a fucking racist....you tRumpsters are just going to have to accept that

I'm not a Trumpster, a trumpet a P-tape enthusiast or a flutist.

I just disagree.

You have to see the pattern. While her statement may not be racial in nature, there are countless instances of blatant racism by Trump's words and actions.

If you would agree that the statement isn't "racist in nature" then it shouldn't be lumped in with other perceived slights either.

I don't think building a wall is racist either, it's a border, it needs a fence/wall, It is however, a very expensive and dumb idea.

But what if the Ku Klux Klan wants to build a wall just to keep those less worth black people out? Is it a racist act then?

Do you actually think about your questions before posting them?

That one had to have been a joke, had to be.

I don’t think it was bud! I m shaking my head on that one.

Spiritual_Chaos · July 2019

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Trump is a fucking racist....you tRumpsters are just going to have to accept that

I'm not a Trumpster, a trumpet a P-tape enthusiast or a flutist.

I just disagree.

You have to see the pattern. While her statement may not be racial in nature, there are countless instances of blatant racism by Trump's words and actions.

If you would agree that the statement isn't "racist in nature" then it shouldn't be lumped in with other perceived slights either.

I don't think building a wall is racist either, it's a border, it needs a fence/wall, It is however, a very expensive and dumb idea.

But what if the Ku Klux Klan wants to build a wall just to keep those less worth black people out? Is it a racist act then?

Do you actually think about your questions before posting them?

"NO WAY should McDonald's employees have livable wages"
"NO WAY should workers have the legal right to vacation" (US only industrialized nation not to have that right)

Chill out with asking other people if they think or not.

tempo_n_groove · July 2019

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Trump is a fucking racist....you tRumpsters are just going to have to accept that

I'm not a Trumpster, a trumpet a P-tape enthusiast or a flutist.

I just disagree.

You have to see the pattern. While her statement may not be racial in nature, there are countless instances of blatant racism by Trump's words and actions.

If you would agree that the statement isn't "racist in nature" then it shouldn't be lumped in with other perceived slights either.

I don't think building a wall is racist either, it's a border, it needs a fence/wall, It is however, a very expensive and dumb idea.

I said... may not be... he's created an environment where everything is easily viewed from that lens. It's if his own design I believe.

I would agree with this too.

He is a megalomaniac and could do this by design.

Trump isn't a very good speaker but he sure does know how to piss people off or corral the troops.

mcgruff10 · July 2019

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Trump is a fucking racist....you tRumpsters are just going to have to accept that

I'm not a Trumpster, a trumpet a P-tape enthusiast or a flutist.

I just disagree.

You have to see the pattern. While her statement may not be racial in nature, there are countless instances of blatant racism by Trump's words and actions.

If you would agree that the statement isn't "racist in nature" then it shouldn't be lumped in with other perceived slights either.

I don't think building a wall is racist either, it's a border, it needs a fence/wall, It is however, a very expensive and dumb idea.

But what if the Ku Klux Klan wants to build a wall just to keep those less worth black people out? Is it a racist act then?

Do you actually think about your questions before posting them?

"NO WAY should McDonald's employees have livable wages"
"NO WAY should workers have the legal right to vacation" (US only industrialized nation not to have that right)

Chill out with asking other people if they think or not.

Is it racist if the kkk puts a fence around McDonald s workers that don’t take vacation?

tempo_n_groove · July 2019

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Trump is a fucking racist....you tRumpsters are just going to have to accept that

I'm not a Trumpster, a trumpet a P-tape enthusiast or a flutist.

I just disagree.

You have to see the pattern. While her statement may not be racial in nature, there are countless instances of blatant racism by Trump's words and actions.

If you would agree that the statement isn't "racist in nature" then it shouldn't be lumped in with other perceived slights either.

I don't think building a wall is racist either, it's a border, it needs a fence/wall, It is however, a very expensive and dumb idea.

But what if the Ku Klux Klan wants to build a wall just to keep those less worth black people out? Is it a racist act then?

Do you actually think about your questions before posting them?

"NO WAY should McDonald's employees have livable wages"
"NO WAY should workers have the legal right to vacation" (US only industrialized nation not to have that right)

Chill out with asking other people if they think or not.

Is it racist if the kkk puts a fence around McDonald s workers that don’t take vacation?

Only if the clown is wearing white.

mcgruff10 · July 2019

tempo_n_groove said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Trump is a fucking racist....you tRumpsters are just going to have to accept that

I'm not a Trumpster, a trumpet a P-tape enthusiast or a flutist.

I just disagree.

You have to see the pattern. While her statement may not be racial in nature, there are countless instances of blatant racism by Trump's words and actions.

If you would agree that the statement isn't "racist in nature" then it shouldn't be lumped in with other perceived slights either.

I don't think building a wall is racist either, it's a border, it needs a fence/wall, It is however, a very expensive and dumb idea.

But what if the Ku Klux Klan wants to build a wall just to keep those less worth black people out? Is it a racist act then?

Do you actually think about your questions before posting them?

"NO WAY should McDonald's employees have livable wages"
"NO WAY should workers have the legal right to vacation" (US only industrialized nation not to have that right)

Chill out with asking other people if they think or not.

Is it racist if the kkk puts a fence around McDonald s workers that don’t take vacation?

Only if the clown is wearing white.

Solid point.

Spiritual_Chaos · July 2019

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Trump is a fucking racist....you tRumpsters are just going to have to accept that

I'm not a Trumpster, a trumpet a P-tape enthusiast or a flutist.

I just disagree.

You have to see the pattern. While her statement may not be racial in nature, there are countless instances of blatant racism by Trump's words and actions.

If you would agree that the statement isn't "racist in nature" then it shouldn't be lumped in with other perceived slights either.

I don't think building a wall is racist either, it's a border, it needs a fence/wall, It is however, a very expensive and dumb idea.

But what if the Ku Klux Klan wants to build a wall just to keep those less worth black people out? Is it a racist act then?

Do you actually think about your questions before posting them?

"NO WAY should McDonald's employees have livable wages"
"NO WAY should workers have the legal right to vacation" (US only industrialized nation not to have that right)

Chill out with asking other people if they think or not.

Is it racist if the kkk puts a fence around McDonald s workers that don’t take vacation?

If this was the early 1960s, and with your views being roughly 50 years behind the times - if I said "In Sweden we let all people share the same bathrooms" what would you say?

mcgruff10 · July 2019

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

Trump is a fucking racist....you tRumpsters are just going to have to accept that

I'm not a Trumpster, a trumpet a P-tape enthusiast or a flutist.

I just disagree.

You have to see the pattern. While her statement may not be racial in nature, there are countless instances of blatant racism by Trump's words and actions.

If you would agree that the statement isn't "racist in nature" then it shouldn't be lumped in with other perceived slights either.

I don't think building a wall is racist either, it's a border, it needs a fence/wall, It is however, a very expensive and dumb idea.

But what if the Ku Klux Klan wants to build a wall just to keep those less worth black people out? Is it a racist act then?

Do you actually think about your questions before posting them?

"NO WAY should McDonald's employees have livable wages"
"NO WAY should workers have the legal right to vacation" (US only industrialized nation not to have that right)

Chill out with asking other people if they think or not.

Is it racist if the kkk puts a fence around McDonald s workers that don’t take vacation?

If this was the early 1960s, and with your views being roughly 50 years behind the times - if I said "In Sweden we let all people share the same bathrooms" what would you say?

I am assuming you are talking about public bathrooms. If it is a bathroom meant for one then sure. More than one, no way. I don’t want my 15 year old daughter using a public bathroom with a 35 year old man. And I wouldn’t my ten year old boys to use the bathroom with a grown woman.

Meltdown99 · July 2019

US employment law by state

https://www.employmentlawhandbook.com/

I agree with SC here. Every person should be entitled to two weeks of vacation a year...

Happy employees are better employees. Bitter employees love to run down the employer that makes them pissed off and are less productive.

tempo_n_groove · July 2019

Meltdown99 said:

US employment law by state

https://www.employmentlawhandbook.com/

I agree with SC here. Every person should be entitled to two weeks of vacation a year...

Happy employees are better employees. Bitter employees love to run down the employer that makes them pissed off and are less productive.

Off topic but when I was a Superintendent I wanted to do EVRYTHING different than one that I worked for. My guys never had OT but they also had help to get their work done in under 8.

My guys LOVED working for me and coming to work.

One had once told me that his paycheck is different but his quality of life has gone up.

Keep your workers happy, they are assets.

dignin · July 2019

tempo_n_groove said:

jeffbr said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/sep/22/donald-trump-nfl-national-anthem-protests

But he did say it....

jeffbr said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/sep/22/donald-trump-nfl-national-anthem-protests

But he did say it....

Exactly. ‘Get that son of a bitch off the field right now. Out! He’s fired. He’s fired!’ when talking about a black man protesting racial injustice. When talking about white men protesting racial injustice in Charlotte "very fine people". Again, that's the pattern I'm talking about. In isolation, most examples may not be particularly convincing to people. But taken together, a pattern emerges.

I missed that part where he calls the player a "black player". Show me that part again?

You are both putting in words and making it mean something entirely different.

The "Very fine people" one is just him being dumb, it really is blown out of proportion.

Why am I defending Trump right now? Because I disagree with the context in which the opposing argument is being used.

no one said that he said "black player"....no one. But the dude was black....and he called him a son of a bitch.

Actually Jeff did. Just scroll up.

That is my argument. It was players protesting, his statement made it racial.

That is what I am bothered with and why I highlighted it in the first place.

But that is exactly who he was talking about. At the time it started with Kaepernick. Michael Bennett joined in solidarity. Then a number of other black players. Remember, they were protesting police injustice against African Americans. Trump had some sort of apoplexy about this, and started tweet storming. As a reaction we started seeing white players join in solidarity. But this was initially a black protest against police brutality toward African Americans. So yes, I did say "black players", because that is who Trump was referring to.

I read "fire the sons of bitches" and thought of the players as people, not color. Never thought of it as a racist statement at all.

I did feel however when it was said that some players would take it a step further and think Trump was talking about their Mom's and that actually happened too.

Trump hides behind people that think like this. If you look at each individual racially controversial thing he says he rides the line and gives himself an out.

It's a trick that you are falling for. You are focusing on the single brush strokes and not the full painting. You have to look at his history, patterns and context of what he has said and not said to see the full painting.

The full painting is one of a racist, plain and simple. His comments are racist and meant to be racist. Even his white nationalist followers can see it and freely admit it.

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