THE BEST DAYS ARE OVER!!
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And let me just say if we are not going to get the production out of the band, then how about some communication. Hey guys, going to take a couple years off. Might play a few shows here and there.
No need to give reasons, that’s not our business. But if your favorite restaurant is going to be closed for an amount of time they have the courtesy to put a sign on the door telling you they will be closed. You don’t have to wonder why, you just know you have to wait till they get back for some more delicious tacos.
We as fan club members are invested with our cash (membership dues) and the time we spend. Yes this is all voluntary, but for 40 bucks a year(analog) it’s not hard to send out a group email kinda letting us know what’s in the future. Even if it turns out to be nothing. I would like to know. Maybe nobody knows. Maybe everyone is in a holding pattern right now. But the longer you wait to land sometimes it all come s crashing down.
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With even Jeff showing publically hos frustration and that he doesn't know what is going on - I would think the band doesn't even know what comes next in a lot of occasions.
So that would be hard communicating with us. When they are not synced up to begin with."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Spiritual_Chaos said:With even Jeff showing publically hos frustration and that he doesn't know what is going on - I would think the band doesn't even know what comes next in a lot of occasions.
So that would be hard communicating with us. When they are not synced up to begin with.Peace,Love and Pearl Jam.0 -
i started seeing this pattern at least 10 years ago.0
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stuckinline said:pearljammr78 said:Sad as it sounds. We will never get the consistent touring and album releases like in the past. Which is sad because a band like Dave Matthews Band still put out albums and tour consistently every summer. Dave Matthews and band are all multi millionaires and all have families and kids but they tend to realize that being on that stage and entertaining their millions of fans comes first and still seem to love what they do. Shame that our band doesn’t seem to have that fire and desire to do the same thing anymore. Shit we won’t even get vinyl singles anymore and deep magazine, what is that? I love this band and it hurts me that they seem to have lost the connection with each other and their fans. Shit. Tour three months a year and have nine months off for side projects and family time. Way more free time than us working regular jobs that pay for the merch/ tickets/ albums will ever dream of until if and when we can retire. Sorry. I’m just ranting and miss my band. Peace and love. Peace and love.
To be honest, most of the "news" is now in the emails. DEEP is more like a very late "year in review" magazine.Presidential Advice from President-Elect Mike McCready: "Are you getting something out of this all encompassing trip?"0 -
The next Deep magazine better be bible thick for all the time they’ve missed.Peace,Love and Pearl Jam.0
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HesCalledDyer said:
A: Pearl Jam are this, this, and this, they deserve to work at their own pace.
B: Yeh but DMB are also this, this, and this and they still tour all year every year and put out 17 albums a month. What is PJ doing?
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DMB is run like a successful business
PJ is run like a part time hobby.Peace,Love and Pearl Jam.0 -
PJ is not DMB. If you want a DMB business, I believe you might be in the wrong fan club.
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We don't have to want a DMB style business to want more from Pearl Jam's business.
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JimmyV said:We don't have to want a DMB style business to want more from Pearl Jam's business.Peace,Love and Pearl Jam.0
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Cosmo said:You spend your entire life writing songs for your first album. You get a 6 months to write your second. That’s how it used to be in the age of record companies.
And the normal trajectory for bands was a lot of music early on, which meant you had to promote record sales. Touring was the best vehicle for that.
Nowadays, post-Record company and the market demand for physical formats waning, it is merchandising and touring that pays the bills.
So many factors come into play. Artistically, you run low on thing you have to say, because you’ve already said it. Saying the same thing over and over doesn’t work.
So, it starts out selling Records and touring early on, but the older you get, the older that touring shit gets.
Look at the older bands. Do you want new music from The Rolling Stones? Paul McCartney? KIZZ? NO!!! You want to hear the old stuff. Not just the hits, I’d see the Stones if they played ‘Rocks Off’ instead of ‘Satisfaction’ but they will play the big hits to satisfy the masses.
i don’t blame Pearl Jam to get off of the grueling road and chill with the families.
Take their kids to soccer practice, enjoy a quiet dinner with the wife, hanging with friends or just sitting around.
They are artists and musicians. They can’t avoid creating, but it gets tougher to come up with something new, every time. They don’t get the luxury we have, repeating the same stories of our lives, changing up the words but telling the same story over and over.
As with all other bands, they will end. That’s okay. We can move on. They can tour, but I don’t want them to fall into the tour the hits phase. I mean, I’m pretty sure The Beach Boys get on stage some nights and dread playing ‘Surfin USA’ for the bazillionth time.
i just want them to be happy. That’s want I want from them, to be happy.
But, that’s just me.
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The only guaranteed show on the horizon is the Jon Tester Benefit 2024. Book your motel room now.0
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Who ever thought Montana would become the new Seattle.Peace,Love and Pearl Jam.0
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pearljammr78 said:brianlux said:Somehow this all reminds me of something I read recently:"I think musicians should be like warriors. Defiant and searching, like Miles Davis. "-Henry Rollings, Smile, You're TravellingHenry goes on to talk about his love of jazz, one main reason being that many of the jazz greats were and are warriors:"Many of the great beboppers were warriors of the highest pedigree. They were black and got fucked over for their beauty and brilliance. They were hard core and many of them went out poor and beat down. No five car garages paid for by the royalties of one hit record for these guys. It was the hard route, the real road, poorly lit rooms, prison, insane asylums, addiction, obscurity, oblivion, and cowardly whites holding them down. Amazing music from a higher level that they paid for in full."You won't find a lot of these "warriors" in popular rock music. Neil Young is one, for sure. Willie Nelson- you bet. Same with Bob Dylan. Bob is 78 years old and still out there doing it. Sorry if this sounds offensive to some of you, but slighting Dylan because he doesn't meet your expectations is weak and pathetic. When you're 78, let's see if you're still making the rounds.
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My prediction:
-New album in 2020
-Tour in 2020 (nothing huge....like 2013...solid tour)
-Random "ballpark" shows from 2021-2023
-One more album/EP/Lost Dogs 2
-Small US tour
-More ballpark shows for the next few years
They aren't done. Not by a longshot. But, they have slowed down considerably and will continue to do so.
We're truly lucky to have seen these guys. Enjoy it while you can, everyone.
Cheers!I LOVE MUSIC.
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If PJ hasn’t toured in a few years then at least there was a really kickass Pearl Jam cover band playing shows all over Europe last summer.Camden 2 2006, Newark 2010, Barclays 2 2013, Central Park 2015, MSG 2 2016, Wrigley 1 2016, Rome 2018, Prague 2018, Asbury Park 2021, EV & Earthlings NYC 1 2022, MSG 2022, Louisville 2022, Dublin 2024, MSG 1 2024, MSG 2 20240
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