Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez

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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,255

    AOC and Pearl Jam are similar.  Both were young and had strong views about topics.  But they were also ignorant in how the system works and change works.  PJ eventually figured out that corporations weren't going anywhere, and corporations do support charitable causes, so instead of tearing down corporate logos, let's play private shows with them and use their money for good causes.  Lets partner with corporations on charitable causes. 

    AOC is taking a scorched earth approach and it likely isn't going to work.  Time will tell. 

  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    She's again looking like the Trump of the left. No understanding of the implications of her actions. No experience. No long-game. Goes with her gut. Says stupid stuff. Creates chaos. Creates squabbles and division within the party. Has a lot of enemies and a loyal base of support. It has worked for the orange guy so far. 
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    jeffbr said:
    She's again looking like the Trump of the left. No understanding of the implications of her actions. No experience. No long-game. Goes with her gut. Says stupid stuff. Creates chaos. Creates squabbles and division within the party. Has a lot of enemies and a loyal base of support. It has worked for the orange guy so far. 
    Both of them are idiots and I hope they go away in the next election. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,826
    jeffbr said:
    She's again looking like the Trump of the left. No understanding of the implications of her actions. No experience. No long-game. Goes with her gut. Says stupid stuff. Creates chaos. Creates squabbles and division within the party. Has a lot of enemies and a loyal base of support. It has worked for the orange guy so far. 
    +1
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,460
    mcgruff10 said:
    jeffbr said:
    She's again looking like the Trump of the left. No understanding of the implications of her actions. No experience. No long-game. Goes with her gut. Says stupid stuff. Creates chaos. Creates squabbles and division within the party. Has a lot of enemies and a loyal base of support. It has worked for the orange guy so far. 
    Both of them are idiots and I hope they go away in the next election. 
    Just stop it. This is silly. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    jeffbr said:
    She's again looking like the Trump of the left. No understanding of the implications of her actions. No experience. No long-game. Goes with her gut. Says stupid stuff. Creates chaos. Creates squabbles and division within the party. Has a lot of enemies and a loyal base of support. It has worked for the orange guy so far. 
    Yes but the left should be better than that.  I fear they're not though. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    Others from her own party are calling AOC out:
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/11/politics/ocasio-cortez-pelosi-singling-out/index.html
    Other lawmakers criticized Ocasio-Cortez's comments more directly. Rep. Lacy Clay of Missouri accused Ocasio-Cortez of using "the race card" in her comments to the Post.
    "What a weak argument," Clay said. "Because you can't get your way, and because you are -, you're getting pushback, you resort to use the race card? Unbelievable. Unbelievable to me."
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,255
    Getting AOC and Trump out of government isn’t going to fix the problem.  THey are where they are because the current government was the problem.  We need to totally clean house of party leadership on both sides and start over with people who are willing to work together and be happy getting 50% of what they ask for.  
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,460
    Not even her own party can take that she is having opinions and want "real change", 

    "S-s-she dares to try to move the needle, have opinions and shake up the status quo - l-l-eets get her and white middle aged men with agree with us on the world wide web"
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,826
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Not even her own party can take that she is having opinions and want "real change", 

    "S-s-she dares to try to move the needle, have opinions and shake up the status quo - l-l-eets get her and white middle aged men with agree with us on the world wide web"
    Nancy pelosi is now a white middle aged man? What’s with all this continued bullshit about white men? 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,460
    edited July 2019
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Not even her own party can take that she is having opinions and want "real change", 

    "S-s-she dares to try to move the needle, have opinions and shake up the status quo - l-l-eets get her and white middle aged men with agree with us on the world wide web"
    Nancy pelosi is now a white middle aged man? What’s with all this continued bullshit about white men? 
    Nancy Pelosi is afraid of the new generation because she is so old she shakes when she tries to stand still. And I have a feeling you long for AOC in secret. Just show your feelings man. It's okey. We're here for ya.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Not even her own party can take that she is having opinions and want "real change", 

    "S-s-she dares to try to move the needle, have opinions and shake up the status quo - l-l-eets get her and white middle aged men with agree with us on the world wide web"
    Nancy pelosi is now a white middle aged man? What’s with all this continued bullshit about white men? 
    Nancy Pelosi is afraid of the new generation because she is so old she shakes when she tries to stand still. And I have a feeling you long for AOC in secret. Just show your feelings man. It's okey. We're here for ya.
    SC keeping it classy
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Not even her own party can take that she is having opinions and want "real change", 

    "S-s-she dares to try to move the needle, have opinions and shake up the status quo - l-l-eets get her and white middle aged men with agree with us on the world wide web"
    Nancy pelosi is now a white middle aged man? What’s with all this continued bullshit about white men? 
    Self loathing.  Evidently anyone who voted for the border bill are today's 1940's segregationists, including the 50 black members who voted for the bill.  Odd.  
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,826
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Not even her own party can take that she is having opinions and want "real change", 

    "S-s-she dares to try to move the needle, have opinions and shake up the status quo - l-l-eets get her and white middle aged men with agree with us on the world wide web"
    Nancy pelosi is now a white middle aged man? What’s with all this continued bullshit about white men? 
    Nancy Pelosi is afraid of the new generation because she is so old she shakes when she tries to stand still. And I have a feeling you long for AOC in secret. Just show your feelings man. It's okey. We're here for ya.
    No thanks. If what you say is true about me, then that must mean you long to embrace Mr Trump. 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,460
    edited July 2019
    PJPOWER said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Not even her own party can take that she is having opinions and want "real change", 

    "S-s-she dares to try to move the needle, have opinions and shake up the status quo - l-l-eets get her and white middle aged men with agree with us on the world wide web"
    Nancy pelosi is now a white middle aged man? What’s with all this continued bullshit about white men? 
    Nancy Pelosi is afraid of the new generation because she is so old she shakes when she tries to stand still. And I have a feeling you long for AOC in secret. Just show your feelings man. It's okey. We're here for ya.
    SC keeping it classy
    She comes off as really old though. You can't tell?  Nothing to do with keeping it classy. 

    (please refrain from any classy pocahontas-jokes in your response)
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,460
    edited July 2019
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Not even her own party can take that she is having opinions and want "real change", 

    "S-s-she dares to try to move the needle, have opinions and shake up the status quo - l-l-eets get her and white middle aged men with agree with us on the world wide web"
    Nancy pelosi is now a white middle aged man? What’s with all this continued bullshit about white men? 
    Nancy Pelosi is afraid of the new generation because she is so old she shakes when she tries to stand still. And I have a feeling you long for AOC in secret. Just show your feelings man. It's okey. We're here for ya.
    No thanks. If what you say is true about me, then that must mean you long to embrace Mr Trump. 
    Maybe my ideals falls in line with his. Would that be a problem? :P
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    mrussel1 said:
    jeffbr said:
    She's again looking like the Trump of the left. No understanding of the implications of her actions. No experience. No long-game. Goes with her gut. Says stupid stuff. Creates chaos. Creates squabbles and division within the party. Has a lot of enemies and a loyal base of support. It has worked for the orange guy so far. 
    Yes but the left should be better than that.  I fear they're not though. 
    Exactly!  They should and could and it's frustrating that they are not.

    No way is AOC as fundamentally off base as Trump, but her actions are beginning to undermine her support.  Mine is slipping anyway.  But still, I'd place her above Trump any day.

    I think both parties need some major overhauling.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    jeffbr said:
    She's again looking like the Trump of the left. No understanding of the implications of her actions. No experience. No long-game. Goes with her gut. Says stupid stuff. Creates chaos. Creates squabbles and division within the party. Has a lot of enemies and a loyal base of support. It has worked for the orange guy so far. 
    Yes but the left should be better than that.  I fear they're not though. 
    Exactly!  They should and could and it's frustrating that they are not.

    No way is AOC as fundamentally off base as Trump, but her actions are beginning to undermine her support.  Mine is slipping anyway.  But still, I'd place her above Trump any day.

    I think both parties need some major overhauling.
    Yes, I've said before I think her heart is in the right place, but the execution is not good.  She derails her objectives.  Pelosi said she hasn't figured out the difference between advocacy and legislation.  I think that's true.  I have high hopes for her.  I'm not writing her off yet. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,460
    edited July 2019
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    jeffbr said:
    She's again looking like the Trump of the left. No understanding of the implications of her actions. No experience. No long-game. Goes with her gut. Says stupid stuff. Creates chaos. Creates squabbles and division within the party. Has a lot of enemies and a loyal base of support. It has worked for the orange guy so far. 
    Yes but the left should be better than that.  I fear they're not though. 
    Exactly!  They should and could and it's frustrating that they are not.

    No way is AOC as fundamentally off base as Trump, but her actions are beginning to undermine her support.  Mine is slipping anyway.  But still, I'd place her above Trump any day.

    I think both parties need some major overhauling.
    What you need is a major overhaul to get 3-5 more parties in there. 

    No healthy democracy would base it all on the option of "this" or "that".

    Atleast AOC is something. Appreciate that.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    jeffbr said:
    She's again looking like the Trump of the left. No understanding of the implications of her actions. No experience. No long-game. Goes with her gut. Says stupid stuff. Creates chaos. Creates squabbles and division within the party. Has a lot of enemies and a loyal base of support. It has worked for the orange guy so far. 
    Yes but the left should be better than that.  I fear they're not though. 
    Exactly!  They should and could and it's frustrating that they are not.

    No way is AOC as fundamentally off base as Trump, but her actions are beginning to undermine her support.  Mine is slipping anyway.  But still, I'd place her above Trump any day.

    I think both parties need some major overhauling.
    What you need is a major overhaul to get 3-5 more parties in there. 

    No healthy democracy would base it all on the option of "this" or "that".

    Atleast AOC is something. Appreciate that.
    You don't understand the Constitution if you make that statement.  

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