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I haven't, should I?Spiritual_Chaos said:
Have you seen the movie THE WICKER MAN?mcgruff10 said:
I m sure it isn’t the case but it Looks very cultish to me.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Its the biggest day for drinking in Sweden. And for kids/families to dance around a pole wearing flowers on their head etc.PJ_Soul said:
Why? What does midsummer entail for you? Is it a traditional celebration or holiday or something?Spiritual_Chaos said:27th is midsummer here
 so might miss the debate. hmm



Bernie Sanders would love it.
Will have to watch the debate on the 28th before Bob Dylan.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 - 
            
It looks like the photos, lol, except a lot of people would more likely be naked if it was the film, haha. It is a cult classic. It is good, but also very weird. I don't know if it would be up your alley. There is also a remake with Nicolas Cage, which is more accessible - not nearly as weird.... though still not normal.mcgruff10 said:
I haven't, should I?Spiritual_Chaos said:
Have you seen the movie THE WICKER MAN?mcgruff10 said:
I m sure it isn’t the case but it Looks very cultish to me.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Its the biggest day for drinking in Sweden. And for kids/families to dance around a pole wearing flowers on their head etc.PJ_Soul said:
Why? What does midsummer entail for you? Is it a traditional celebration or holiday or something?Spiritual_Chaos said:27th is midsummer here
 so might miss the debate. hmm



Bernie Sanders would love it.
Will have to watch the debate on the 28th before Bob Dylan.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 - 
            
It's creepy. But british and old (1970s) - don't know if it's your thing. But if you like weird and creepy - then go for it. Stars Christopher Lee (and swedish bond girl Britt Ekland). Premiss: A cop from the mainland has to go to a british isolated island when a girl goes missing.mcgruff10 said:
I haven't, should I?Spiritual_Chaos said:
Have you seen the movie THE WICKER MAN?mcgruff10 said:
I m sure it isn’t the case but it Looks very cultish to me.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Its the biggest day for drinking in Sweden. And for kids/families to dance around a pole wearing flowers on their head etc.PJ_Soul said:
Why? What does midsummer entail for you? Is it a traditional celebration or holiday or something?Spiritual_Chaos said:27th is midsummer here
 so might miss the debate. hmm



Bernie Sanders would love it.
Will have to watch the debate on the 28th before Bob Dylan.
Just don't watch the shitty Nic Cage remake."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 - 
            
I don't mind the Cage remake. I mean, it's not great or anything close, and the story is really changed, but it was still kind of entertaining.Spiritual_Chaos said:
It's creepy. But british and old (1970s) - don't know if it's your thing. But if you like weird and creepy - then go for it. Stars Christopher Lee (and swedish bond girl Britt Ekland). Premiss: A cop from the mainland has to go to a british isolated island when a girl goes missing.mcgruff10 said:
I haven't, should I?Spiritual_Chaos said:
Have you seen the movie THE WICKER MAN?mcgruff10 said:
I m sure it isn’t the case but it Looks very cultish to me.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Its the biggest day for drinking in Sweden. And for kids/families to dance around a pole wearing flowers on their head etc.PJ_Soul said:
Why? What does midsummer entail for you? Is it a traditional celebration or holiday or something?Spiritual_Chaos said:27th is midsummer here
 so might miss the debate. hmm



Bernie Sanders would love it.
Will have to watch the debate on the 28th before Bob Dylan.
Just don't watch the shitty Nic Cage remake.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 - 
            
It sucks, and is famous for two things haha:PJ_Soul said:
I don't mind the Cage remake. I mean, it's not great or anything close, and the story is really changed, but it was still kind of entertaining.Spiritual_Chaos said:
It's creepy. But british and old (1970s) - don't know if it's your thing. But if you like weird and creepy - then go for it. Stars Christopher Lee (and swedish bond girl Britt Ekland). Premiss: A cop from the mainland has to go to a british isolated island when a girl goes missing.mcgruff10 said:
I haven't, should I?Spiritual_Chaos said:
Have you seen the movie THE WICKER MAN?mcgruff10 said:
I m sure it isn’t the case but it Looks very cultish to me.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Its the biggest day for drinking in Sweden. And for kids/families to dance around a pole wearing flowers on their head etc.PJ_Soul said:
Why? What does midsummer entail for you? Is it a traditional celebration or holiday or something?Spiritual_Chaos said:27th is midsummer here
 so might miss the debate. hmm



Bernie Sanders would love it.
Will have to watch the debate on the 28th before Bob Dylan.
Just don't watch the shitty Nic Cage remake.

There is also the boring WICKER MAN 2 from the original director. I was actually at the first showing ever of it at the Montreal film festival (Fantasia Festival) with the director present. But yeah, it was bad and looked like cheap video. Must have been released in 2011/2012."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 - 
            I mean, just those two clips show pretty well why I still think the remake is entertaining, lol.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 - 
            
You know Bernie isn’t a Democrat right?mrussel1 said:
Not when she was a Republican. You know she was a Republican, right?Spiritual_Chaos said:
So you are saying she hasn’t been consistent through the years in her beliefs?mrussel1 said:
Yes, she just flat takes Bernie's platform. And it may not be cynical, but it's absolutely pandering.Spiritual_Chaos said:
I dont think Warren comes off as someone that cynical. Even though i might not agree, Im sure she has a respactable reason for her ”plans”.Jason P said:College graduates are probably more likely to vote. I know I would vote for the Wig party if they essentially paid off tens of thousands in debt for me.
She isnt Joe ”lets write something up quickly” Biden or Donald ”Urukhai hear my call - your coal Jobs are the future and we will feast on elf flesh! Trump
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Let's start with not believing in free market principles. None of her policy proposals are anchored in free market principles. How can someone switch parties in the 90's and have no change of views.Spiritual_Chaos said:
But you that keep track om Queen E - What exactly has she changed in her beliefs, from going rep to dem?mrussel1 said:So let's all make note that politicians can adjust their policy stances.0 - 
            
Well I find it convenient. It's not surprising, politicians have convenient epiphanies all the time. Tell me what I made up?PJ_Soul said:
No. And I actually feel like you are actively looking for reasons not to like Warren, to the point where you're just kind of making things up. Her political view evolved. That is a good thing. I'm not sure how you find something so negative here.mrussel1 said:
You don't find it convenient that her move in the 90s is aligned perfectly with the populist times, when explained today? And how are her current proposals even close to free market conservative principles? I'd prefer to see some contemporaneous explanation, but I'm sure that doesn't exist.PJ_Soul said:Here is Warren's explanation for the Republican thing. It really only further strengthens her position IMO."I was an independent. I was with the GOP for a while because I really thought that it was a party that was principled in its conservative approach to economics and to markets. And I feel like the GOP party just left that. They moved to a party that said, “No, it’s not about a level playing field. It’s now about a field that’s gotten tilted.” And they really stood up for the big financial institutions when the big financial institutions are just hammering middle class American families. I just feel like that’s a party that moved way, way away."0 - 
            
You're damn right I do.cincybearcat said:
You know Bernie isn’t a Democrat right?mrussel1 said:
Not when she was a Republican. You know she was a Republican, right?Spiritual_Chaos said:
So you are saying she hasn’t been consistent through the years in her beliefs?mrussel1 said:
Yes, she just flat takes Bernie's platform. And it may not be cynical, but it's absolutely pandering.Spiritual_Chaos said:
I dont think Warren comes off as someone that cynical. Even though i might not agree, Im sure she has a respactable reason for her ”plans”.Jason P said:College graduates are probably more likely to vote. I know I would vote for the Wig party if they essentially paid off tens of thousands in debt for me.
She isnt Joe ”lets write something up quickly” Biden or Donald ”Urukhai hear my call - your coal Jobs are the future and we will feast on elf flesh! Trump0 - 
            
Have you ever been against something or maybe indifferent but then paid attention, listened and understood the causes, and more importantly the effects, and changed your opinion? This bullshit political purity is what is killing both parties. I could give two shits if Biden plagerizes the green new deal and didn’t come up with it all on his own. He’ll try to implement it or a version of same. And in the end, what counts is that we try and not do nothing. Obama stole Obamacare from Hillary and repubs but who gives a shit? The problem with Bernie is that he equates “freedom” with having everything free or heavily subsidized with no policy or legislation to show for it. Give me Biden all day.mrussel1 said:
Therefore she hasn't been consistent her whole life. I have no issue with a politician changing their view. In fact it would concern me if anyone had the same views their whole lives. Warren is pandering to the youth vote just like Bernie did. It's politics.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Yes.mrussel1 said:
Not when she was a Republican. You know she was a Republican, right?Spiritual_Chaos said:
So you are saying she hasn’t been consistent through the years in her beliefs?mrussel1 said:
Yes, she just flat takes Bernie's platform. And it may not be cynical, but it's absolutely pandering.Spiritual_Chaos said:
I dont think Warren comes off as someone that cynical. Even though i might not agree, Im sure she has a respactable reason for her ”plans”.Jason P said:College graduates are probably more likely to vote. I know I would vote for the Wig party if they essentially paid off tens of thousands in debt for me.
She isnt Joe ”lets write something up quickly” Biden or Donald ”Urukhai hear my call - your coal Jobs are the future and we will feast on elf flesh! Trump
But I once listened to Staind.
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I’ve seen Wicker Man. 30 years ago? Thought it was well done at the time, in an Alfred Hitchcocky way.Spiritual_Chaos said:
It's creepy. But british and old (1970s) - don't know if it's your thing. But if you like weird and creepy - then go for it. Stars Christopher Lee (and swedish bond girl Britt Ekland). Premiss: A cop from the mainland has to go to a british isolated island when a girl goes missing.mcgruff10 said:
I haven't, should I?Spiritual_Chaos said:
Have you seen the movie THE WICKER MAN?mcgruff10 said:
I m sure it isn’t the case but it Looks very cultish to me.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Its the biggest day for drinking in Sweden. And for kids/families to dance around a pole wearing flowers on their head etc.PJ_Soul said:
Why? What does midsummer entail for you? Is it a traditional celebration or holiday or something?Spiritual_Chaos said:27th is midsummer here
 so might miss the debate. hmm



Bernie Sanders would love it.
Will have to watch the debate on the 28th before Bob Dylan.
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How’s that free market working for Crystal City and outside suburbs? Great if you own, not so much if you rent or are trying to buy. But hey, tax breaks and subsidies are fucking great for “free” markets.mrussel1 said:
Let's start with not believing in free market principles. None of her policy proposals are anchored in free market principles. How can someone switch parties in the 90's and have no change of views.Spiritual_Chaos said:
But you that keep track om Queen E - What exactly has she changed in her beliefs, from going rep to dem?mrussel1 said:So let's all make note that politicians can adjust their policy stances.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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The first group of 10 appearing on Wednesday, June 26:
Sen. Cory Booker of New Jersey
Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts
Former Rep. Beto O'Rourke of Texas
Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota
Former Rep. John Delaney of Maryland
Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii
Former Housing Secretary Julián Castro
Rep. Tim Ryan of Ohio
New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio
Washington Gov. Jay Inslee
The second group of 10 appearing on Thursday, June 27:
Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont
Sen. Kamala Harris of California
Former Vice President Joe Biden
Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Indiana
Sen. Michael Bennet of Colorado
Author Marianne Williamson
Rep. Eric Swalwell of California
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York
Entrepreneur Andrew Yang
Gov. John Hickenlooper of Colorado
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After Burnett noted that Warren's recent surge in national polls makes it seem like she has moved on from this issue, Charlamagne said that while that may be so right now, the Native American question will continue to dog the senator until she addresses it "in a real way."
"Eventually people are going to keep asking her about it until she acknowledges it in a real way," he said. "Meaning, ‘Hey. I did it, I was wrong. This is why I did it, I thought I could get ahead. And I learned my lesson from it.'"
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            Haha, I like that, that Charlamagne dude keeps coming back to Burnett's show.
And I like how he gushes over Mayor Pete."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 - 
            
I don't see why she shouldn't believe she was though if it was a story in the family she had heard from being a child. Many families has those kind of stories about family history. Mine has too.Hi! said:https://www.google.com/amp/s/freebeacon.com/politics/charlamagne-tha-god-warren-needs-to-acknowledge-native-american-claims-in-a-real-way/amp/After Burnett noted that Warren's recent surge in national polls makes it seem like she has moved on from this issue, Charlamagne said that while that may be so right now, the Native American question will continue to dog the senator until she addresses it "in a real way."
"Eventually people are going to keep asking her about it until she acknowledges it in a real way," he said. "Meaning, ‘Hey. I did it, I was wrong. This is why I did it, I thought I could get ahead. And I learned my lesson from it.'"
If it was a lie - why would she take the test?Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 - 
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