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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,193
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-41-percent-poll-084926124.html
    This is good:

    President Donald Trump received some bad numbers on Tuesday when a new poll showed his top potential 2020 rivals beating him handily. 

    The Quinnipiac poll gave former Vice President Joe Biden a 13-point lead over Trump: 53-40. 

    And the rest of the numbers weren’t much better. 

    The poll said Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) had a 9-point edge (51-42) over the president, while Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) maintained an 8-point lead (49-41). Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) wasn’t far behind, leading Trump by 7 (49-42). Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) and South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg each had a 5-point lead (47-42 in both cases).  

    Conservative attorney George Conway ― a frequent Trump critic despite the fact that his wife, Kellyanne Conway, is a White House counselor ― noted that Trump’s ceiling in the poll was 42%.

    “That’s disastrous for any incumbent, whether he or she is running for dogcatcher or president,” Conway wrote on Twitter. 

    Others were even blunter in their assessment, causing “Trump 41%” to trend on Twitter. Some folks even made jokes about all the things that might beat Trump in 2020: 

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    PJ_Soul said:
    NVM
    Don't give up on us. 
  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,249
    I’m voting Biden, he’s going to cure cancer.  Fuck cancer.
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,193
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    I’m voting Biden, he’s going to cure cancer.  Fuck cancer.
    Hell yeah, Texas is going blue.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Did Biden say he would cure cancer in his presidential term?  If he did, then he might be delusional...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    Meltdown99 said:
    Did Biden say he would cure cancer in his presidential term?  If he did, then he might be delusional...
    He got that moonshot iniative from Obama about finding about ”curing” cancer. Or something like that. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Did Biden say he would cure cancer in his presidential term?  If he did, then he might be delusional...
    He got that moonshot iniative from Obama about finding about ”curing” cancer. Or something like that. 
    He's delusional if he thinks curing cancer is happening in his term...IF he wins.  When you are 80, you can downhill faster than you'd like.

    But do the Dems plan on running anyone other than seniors...so expect a lot of seniors moments on the campaign trail...both sides.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    Meltdown99 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Did Biden say he would cure cancer in his presidential term?  If he did, then he might be delusional...
    He got that moonshot iniative from Obama about finding about ”curing” cancer. Or something like that. 
    He's delusional if he thinks curing cancer is happening in his term...IF he wins.  When you are 80, you can downhill faster than you'd like.

    But do the Dems plan on running anyone other than seniors...so expect a lot of seniors moments on the campaign trail...both sides.
    When has he said he would Cure cancer in his term?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Did Biden say he would cure cancer in his presidential term?  If he did, then he might be delusional...
    He got that moonshot iniative from Obama about finding about ”curing” cancer. Or something like that. 
    He's delusional if he thinks curing cancer is happening in his term...IF he wins.  When you are 80, you can downhill faster than you'd like.

    But do the Dems plan on running anyone other than seniors...so expect a lot of seniors moments on the campaign trail...both sides.
    When has he said he would Cure cancer in his term?
    Good luck to him.  Where will he find the time, being POTUS, taking his morning nap, afternoon nap, early evening nap and to get into a lab to cure cancer.../s

    He'll be a busy man...

    I still think they should work on universal health care...that seems more realistic of a goal...of course I would like Canada to improve it universal health care...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Did Biden say he would cure cancer in his presidential term?  If he did, then he might be delusional...
    He got that moonshot iniative from Obama about finding about ”curing” cancer. Or something like that. 
    He's delusional if he thinks curing cancer is happening in his term...IF he wins.  When you are 80, you can downhill faster than you'd like.

    But do the Dems plan on running anyone other than seniors...so expect a lot of seniors moments on the campaign trail...both sides.
    When has he said he would Cure cancer in his term?
    In Sweden who pays for dental/pharma/vision care if you do not have the money for private insurance...or is that all included as part of your universal package...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Meltdown99 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Did Biden say he would cure cancer in his presidential term?  If he did, then he might be delusional...
    He got that moonshot iniative from Obama about finding about ”curing” cancer. Or something like that. 
    He's delusional if he thinks curing cancer is happening in his term...IF he wins.  When you are 80, you can downhill faster than you'd like.

    But do the Dems plan on running anyone other than seniors...so expect a lot of seniors moments on the campaign trail...both sides.
    When has he said he would Cure cancer in his term?
    Good luck to him.  Where will he find the time, being POTUS, taking his morning nap, afternoon nap, early evening nap and to get into a lab to cure cancer.../s

    He'll be a busy man...

    I still think they should work on universal health care...that seems more realistic of a goal...of course I would like Canada to improve it universal health care...
    I don't think he meant that he would personally find the cure, in the lab.  I think he's saying that during his term, he will consolidate resources to find the cure.  I think it's similar to the strategy that SU2C has been trying, the premise being that there are tons of talented teams working on different avenues of research, but they do a poor job of sharing data and information.  I'm not saying it's a realistic goal, but I also think it's a worthy goal.  While I agree with you on universal health, it's not a tradeoff in my book. 
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,619
    I cannot believe we're not addressing the fact that cancer isn't, ya know, this one singular thing. You cannot cure cancer as there are many forms. It's just a ridiculous statement.

    Good stuff right here:
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/12/elizabeth-warren-2020-election-polls-1362107
    https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-2020-california-democratic-primary-poll-20190613-story.html

    They should be asking people more often in polls who their 2nd choice would be.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    I cannot believe we're not addressing the fact that cancer isn't, ya know, this one singular thing. You cannot cure cancer as there are many forms. It's just a ridiculous statement.

    Good stuff right here:
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/12/elizabeth-warren-2020-election-polls-1362107
    https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-2020-california-democratic-primary-poll-20190613-story.html

    They should be asking people more often in polls who their 2nd choice would be.
    Warren is definitely an existential political risk to Sanders.  They occupy the same lanes.  She's having a good run right now.  Regarding California, I would not expect anyone but a strongly left progressive to win that state in the primary.  I can't recall where it is in the calendar, but if it's earl enough, it's a great opportunity for Warren to pick up major pledged delegates.  If Biden were to win, you'd have to call it a day because that means he's winning SC, PA, MI, and Ohio too.  
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,696
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Did Biden say he would cure cancer in his presidential term?  If he did, then he might be delusional...
    He got that moonshot iniative from Obama about finding about ”curing” cancer. Or something like that. 
    He's delusional if he thinks curing cancer is happening in his term...IF he wins.  When you are 80, you can downhill faster than you'd like.

    But do the Dems plan on running anyone other than seniors...so expect a lot of seniors moments on the campaign trail...both sides.
    When has he said he would Cure cancer in his term?
    Doesn't matter.  Al Gore never said he invented the internet, but everyone believed he did.
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,619
    mrussel1 said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    I cannot believe we're not addressing the fact that cancer isn't, ya know, this one singular thing. You cannot cure cancer as there are many forms. It's just a ridiculous statement.

    Good stuff right here:
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/12/elizabeth-warren-2020-election-polls-1362107
    https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-2020-california-democratic-primary-poll-20190613-story.html

    They should be asking people more often in polls who their 2nd choice would be.
    Warren is definitely an existential political risk to Sanders.  They occupy the same lanes.  She's having a good run right now.  Regarding California, I would not expect anyone but a strongly left progressive to win that state in the primary.  I can't recall where it is in the calendar, but if it's earl enough, it's a great opportunity for Warren to pick up major pledged delegates.  If Biden were to win, you'd have to call it a day because that means he's winning SC, PA, MI, and Ohio too.  
    They're early. Cali's part of Super Tuesday in early March.

    PA (where I live) really should be lumped into Super Tuesday - basically, all swing states should be earlier as I see it. PA's late April and by then there's a good chance this thing has all but been decided at that point anyway.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    But If Obama have his this mission to find a way to ”cure” cancer than maybe he shouldn’t things like being president come in the way of such a noble endevour?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    Meltdown99 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Did Biden say he would cure cancer in his presidential term?  If he did, then he might be delusional...
    He got that moonshot iniative from Obama about finding about ”curing” cancer. Or something like that. 
    He's delusional if he thinks curing cancer is happening in his term...IF he wins.  When you are 80, you can downhill faster than you'd like.

    But do the Dems plan on running anyone other than seniors...so expect a lot of seniors moments on the campaign trail...both sides.
    When has he said he would Cure cancer in his term?
    In Sweden who pays for dental/pharma/vision care if you do not have the money for private insurance...or is that all included as part of your universal package...
    Explain What the three are and I might be able to answer? Pharma? Vision - is that glasses and stuff? Dental = fixing holes in teeth?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    OnWis97 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Did Biden say he would cure cancer in his presidential term?  If he did, then he might be delusional...
    He got that moonshot iniative from Obama about finding about ”curing” cancer. Or something like that. 
    He's delusional if he thinks curing cancer is happening in his term...IF he wins.  When you are 80, you can downhill faster than you'd like.

    But do the Dems plan on running anyone other than seniors...so expect a lot of seniors moments on the campaign trail...both sides.
    When has he said he would Cure cancer in his term?
    Doesn't matter.  Al Gore never said he invented the internet, but everyone believed he did.
    To be fair, everyone believed that he SAID he did, when he didn't say that.  
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Did Biden say he would cure cancer in his presidential term?  If he did, then he might be delusional...
    He got that moonshot iniative from Obama about finding about ”curing” cancer. Or something like that. 
    He's delusional if he thinks curing cancer is happening in his term...IF he wins.  When you are 80, you can downhill faster than you'd like.

    But do the Dems plan on running anyone other than seniors...so expect a lot of seniors moments on the campaign trail...both sides.
    When has he said he would Cure cancer in his term?
    Doesn't matter.  Al Gore never said he invented the internet, but everyone believed he did.
    To be fair, everyone believed that he SAID he did, when he didn't say that.  
    He is worthy of inventing the internet though. All that matters. 

    #gore2020
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    I cannot believe we're not addressing the fact that cancer isn't, ya know, this one singular thing. You cannot cure cancer as there are many forms. It's just a ridiculous statement.

    Good stuff right here:
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/12/elizabeth-warren-2020-election-polls-1362107
    https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-2020-california-democratic-primary-poll-20190613-story.html

    They should be asking people more often in polls who their 2nd choice would be.
    Warren is definitely an existential political risk to Sanders.  They occupy the same lanes.  She's having a good run right now.  Regarding California, I would not expect anyone but a strongly left progressive to win that state in the primary.  I can't recall where it is in the calendar, but if it's earl enough, it's a great opportunity for Warren to pick up major pledged delegates.  If Biden were to win, you'd have to call it a day because that means he's winning SC, PA, MI, and Ohio too.  
    They're early. Cali's part of Super Tuesday in early March.

    PA (where I live) really should be lumped into Super Tuesday - basically, all swing states should be earlier as I see it. PA's late April and by then there's a good chance this thing has all but been decided at that point anyway.
    I think we'll make it to late May with two candidates.  We have for the last two cycles, if my memory serves me.  So with California being Super Tuesday, that can make the race interesting. It may be practically decided though, to your point.  It probably was in 2016 as Hillary was racking up serious pledged delegate and vote leads that were truly insurmountable.  Interestingly, Bernie's only chance by May was gaining the super delegates, which they had spent months disparaging.  
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