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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,504
    edited June 2019
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    We need @brianlux in here...Boys, BOYS.../s
    Have I been remiss is my chastising lately?  Well, here, let's let Paul do the talking:


    Wrong Paul.

    This is a song written about @mrussel1 fear of sound social reforms:

    https://youtu.be/mncXCfB60Ps

    This is one written about @benjs struggle to stay away from little me:

    https://youtu.be/R6LRiLrOmlA
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,504
    At 8 minutes, Bill Maher speaks of the democratic candidates: 

    https://youtu.be/CCQ3VyKe1Vs
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    We need @brianlux in here...Boys, BOYS.../s
    Have I been remiss is my chastising lately?  Well, here, let's let Paul do the talking:


    Wrong Paul.

    This is a song written about @mrussel1 fear of sound social reforms:

    https://youtu.be/mncXCfB60Ps

    This is one written about @benjs struggle to stay away from little me:

    https://youtu.be/R6LRiLrOmlA
    Oh, ouch.  Man, I respect your opinion and we all have them, but to me Westeberg is never "the wrong Paul".  Watch it there buddy, I'm a fanatic!
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,968
    I hope someone is keeping track of how many times it's been posted to stop talking about each other and talk about the topic. THE TOPIC is Democratic Candidates in this thread. We've reached the point where time-outs or bans are the thin ice EVERYONE is walking on. Don't do this. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Hi! said:
    Tomorrow should be interesting with Biden and Trump holding rallies in Iowa.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/06/06/biden-and-trump-both-plan-campaign-stops-in-iowa-on-tuesday.html
    Word is that Biden is going to do an aggressive speech at Trump.  4 townhalls after that.  It's time for him to get out there.  Let's see what happens.  
  • Hi!
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    mrussel1 said:
    Hi! said:
    Tomorrow should be interesting with Biden and Trump holding rallies in Iowa.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/06/06/biden-and-trump-both-plan-campaign-stops-in-iowa-on-tuesday.html
    Word is that Biden is going to do an aggressive speech at Trump.  4 townhalls after that.  It's time for him to get out there.  Let's see what happens.  
    Awesome, can’t wait.

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Kat said:
    I hope someone is keeping track of how many times it's been posted to stop talking about each other and talk about the topic. THE TOPIC is Democratic Candidates in this thread. We've reached the point where time-outs or bans are the thin ice EVERYONE is walking on. Don't do this. 
    Admin

    I'm guessing I elicited this reminder.  Sorry, boss!

    So on topic- who do you all see as the current Dem front-runner?  I don't trust the polls.  Do we have a front runner yet?
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    brianlux said:
    Kat said:
    I hope someone is keeping track of how many times it's been posted to stop talking about each other and talk about the topic. THE TOPIC is Democratic Candidates in this thread. We've reached the point where time-outs or bans are the thin ice EVERYONE is walking on. Don't do this. 
    Admin

    I'm guessing I elicited this reminder.  Sorry, boss!

    So on topic- who do you all see as the current Dem front-runner?  I don't trust the polls.  Do we have a front runner yet?
    If you don't trust the polls, even if they all tell the same story,  then how can one answer your question? There will be no frontrunner until New Hampshire next January. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    Kat said:
    I hope someone is keeping track of how many times it's been posted to stop talking about each other and talk about the topic. THE TOPIC is Democratic Candidates in this thread. We've reached the point where time-outs or bans are the thin ice EVERYONE is walking on. Don't do this. 
    Admin

    I'm guessing I elicited this reminder.  Sorry, boss!

    So on topic- who do you all see as the current Dem front-runner?  I don't trust the polls.  Do we have a front runner yet?
    If you don't trust the polls, even if they all tell the same story,  then how can one answer your question? There will be no frontrunner until New Hampshire next January. 
    Well, to start with, M, I trust you more than the polls.

    Say, how about we forget all of the above and put Jon Stewart in there.  Now there's a guy who will get some shit done!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,504
    Who do you think will be able to pull this line after the first debate, and rise up from the 0-2% tier?


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    Kat said:
    I hope someone is keeping track of how many times it's been posted to stop talking about each other and talk about the topic. THE TOPIC is Democratic Candidates in this thread. We've reached the point where time-outs or bans are the thin ice EVERYONE is walking on. Don't do this. 
    Admin

    I'm guessing I elicited this reminder.  Sorry, boss!

    So on topic- who do you all see as the current Dem front-runner?  I don't trust the polls.  Do we have a front runner yet?
    If you don't trust the polls, even if they all tell the same story,  then how can one answer your question? There will be no frontrunner until New Hampshire next January. 
    Well, to start with, M, I trust you more than the polls.

    Say, how about we forget all of the above and put Jon Stewart in there.  Now there's a guy who will get some shit done!
    Well my info comes from polls!  Doh!

    Jon and Stephen... too male and white?
  • brianlux
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    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    Kat said:
    I hope someone is keeping track of how many times it's been posted to stop talking about each other and talk about the topic. THE TOPIC is Democratic Candidates in this thread. We've reached the point where time-outs or bans are the thin ice EVERYONE is walking on. Don't do this. 
    Admin

    I'm guessing I elicited this reminder.  Sorry, boss!

    So on topic- who do you all see as the current Dem front-runner?  I don't trust the polls.  Do we have a front runner yet?
    If you don't trust the polls, even if they all tell the same story,  then how can one answer your question? There will be no frontrunner until New Hampshire next January. 
    Well, to start with, M, I trust you more than the polls.

    Say, how about we forget all of the above and put Jon Stewart in there.  Now there's a guy who will get some shit done!
    Well my info comes from polls!  Doh!

    Jon and Stephen... too male and white?
    For some, I suppose. 

    We got a book in the other day (wish I could remember the name and title) written by a woman who is pushing the idea that no one should vote for a while male no matter how qualified he may be. 

    Not as radical, but along the same lines, we had a woman who was a first year student in the Human Services course for which I was program assistant who stood up in class and said, "I think we need to get rid of all men in this world".  The head prof (who is a woman) told me after class, "I don't think this one is going to be in this program for long."  The kind of statement that 1st year student made does the women's movement far more harm than good. 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,407
    National head to head match up. There’s your refined field.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/447972-biden-leads-trump-by-landslide-proportions-in-new-national-poll
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  • mrussel1
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    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    Kat said:
    I hope someone is keeping track of how many times it's been posted to stop talking about each other and talk about the topic. THE TOPIC is Democratic Candidates in this thread. We've reached the point where time-outs or bans are the thin ice EVERYONE is walking on. Don't do this. 
    Admin

    I'm guessing I elicited this reminder.  Sorry, boss!

    So on topic- who do you all see as the current Dem front-runner?  I don't trust the polls.  Do we have a front runner yet?
    If you don't trust the polls, even if they all tell the same story,  then how can one answer your question? There will be no frontrunner until New Hampshire next January. 
    Well, to start with, M, I trust you more than the polls.

    Say, how about we forget all of the above and put Jon Stewart in there.  Now there's a guy who will get some shit done!
    Well my info comes from polls!  Doh!

    Jon and Stephen... too male and white?
    For some, I suppose. 

    We got a book in the other day (wish I could remember the name and title) written by a woman who is pushing the idea that no one should vote for a while male no matter how qualified he may be. 

    Not as radical, but along the same lines, we had a woman who was a first year student in the Human Services course for which I was program assistant who stood up in class and said, "I think we need to get rid of all men in this world".  The head prof (who is a woman) told me after class, "I don't think this one is going to be in this program for long."  The kind of statement that 1st year student made does the women's movement far more harm than good. 
    I've seen some other articles and such that say all men should drop out of the D race..  that's insanity.  Does that really serve justice to women?  To argue that they can't beat a man in politics so all men need to exit?  I would think it would be an insulting argument to women. 
  • mrussel1
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    National head to head match up. There’s your refined field.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/447972-biden-leads-trump-by-landslide-proportions-in-new-national-poll
    Key stats...Trump won men and whites easily last time out.  

    Biden’s double-digit lead over Trump is largely driven by the gender gap. The former vice president edges Trump 47 percent to 46 among men. But among women, Biden leads by 26 points, 60 to 34.

    Similarly, white voters are split evenly between the two, with Trump at 47 percent and Biden at 46. But Biden leads 85 to 12 among black voters and 58 to 33 among Hispanics.

    Both candidates surpass 90 percent support from within their own parties, but independents break for Biden by a 58 to 28 margin.

  • mickeyrat
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    not bad only 17 months out......
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mickeyrat said:
    not bad only 17 months out......
    It’ll tighten a ton between now and November 2020. It’ll also be interesting to see who of the 5 front runners stick around. Look for Bernie bros to be hurt again and attempts to have them stay home or vote Indy.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    Kind of like Biden's slow tempo here.

    https://youtu.be/5LVhHr8Q6rE
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  • mrussel1
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:
    not bad only 17 months out......
    It’ll tighten a ton between now and November 2020. It’ll also be interesting to see who of the 5 front runners stick around. Look for Bernie bros to be hurt again and attempts to have them stay home or vote Indy.
    Yes, it's already starting. 
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,713
    edited June 2019
    NVM
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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