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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Trump's surprise tariff threat to Mexico threatens new NAFTA deal
    https://windsorstar.com/news/economy/trumps-tariff-threat-to-mexico-may-upend-trade-deal-undermine-the-economy/wcm/0a624340-39a3-4353-acd6-419c7e739749/?fbclid=IwAR0hgsCbxT-80JBWZo0yNzzC7Y5H3bvPdeng6PrAZrtZdT3EcU10xa5Tn0Y

    I can only hope...with each new NAFTA Ontario loses more jobs to Mexico.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,975
    The Juggler said:
    cincybearcat said:
    The Juggler said:

    AS much as I dislike trump, this kinda crap is part of what's wrong with america and with our legal system in general.  So focused on specific wording rather than the spirit/intent.  Trump obviously wasn't saying that.  But now we expect the guy that has misspelled and used improper grammar all over twitter since day 1 to be 100% accurate?  Please.  This is just stupid.

    Now - I love Mueller coming out and basically trying to remind everyone that Russian did attack our election and no one is doing anything about it and no one really seems to care.  Republicans in denial and democrats care more about trump.  Sad. 
    He even wrote it twice. Deleted the first tweet where he spelled "accusation" as "acquisition" and left the part of Russia helping him alone. And they did help him, obviously. 

    I've heard plenty of democrats, and some republicans talk about the need for securing our election system, however they cannot do anything if Mitch Mcconnell continues to ignore the issue. Really sad.
    https://www.salon.com/2019/05/30/despite-muellers-warning-mcconnell-blocks-bipartisan-election-security-bills/

    Also- George Conway is a republican.
    I’m aware re:Conway. And I agree that the admin and people like McConnell have done nothing to fix a terrible problem.
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    5 Facts:
    1. Russia assisted Trump
    2. Trump welcomed the assistance
    3. Trump obstructed the investigation into Russian assistance
    4. Trump stood on stage with Putin and sided with him instead of our intelligence community
    5. Trump has done nothing to secure the 2020 elections

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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    You can always tell when somebody sips from right wing radio...
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    jeffbr said:
    5 Facts:
    1. Russia assisted Trump
    2. Trump welcomed the assistance
    3. Trump obstructed the investigation into Russian assistance
    4. Trump stood on stage with Putin and sided with him instead of our intelligence community
    5. Trump has done nothing to secure the 2020 elections

    6. If he wasn’t president, he would be facing jail time. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,977
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    What I've noticed is that Trump always seems to hold press conferences with the helicopter preparing for lift off forcing him to have to yell at reporters. Wouldn't it be better to just speak to the media inside the White House?
    I believe that he thinks making his way to a helicopter makes him seem badass, so he deliberately does this for show, and yells like that to highlight how he's about to get in a helicopter like the super cool and very important tough guy he thinks he is.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    PJ_Soul said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    What I've noticed is that Trump always seems to hold press conferences with the helicopter preparing for lift off forcing him to have to yell at reporters. Wouldn't it be better to just speak to the media inside the White House?
    I believe that he thinks making his way to a helicopter makes him seem badass, so he deliberately does this for show, and yells like that to highlight how he's about to get in a helicopter like the super cool and very important tough guy he thinks he is.
    The main reason he does this is because it’s almost impossible for follow up questions. It looks like a press conference, but it’s really not. By doing this all the time it gives the false impression of being open and transparent. 
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,017
    edited May 2019
    jeffbr said:
    4. Trump stood on stage with Putin and sided with him instead of our intelligence community
    This is the one that drives me nuts the most. Not because Trump did that because it's Trump and this is exactly what I expected the Trump presidency to be. But that fact that his fans think (or at least accept the lie) that he's some patriotic American is maddening. There's nothing less American than the president siding with the likes of the Russian president, North Korean dictator, and Saudi Arabian crown prince over your own intelligence agencies. Couple this with his completely insane treatment of the now dead John McCain, and I just don't understand how anyone can view him as a patriotic right-winger that loves America. 
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  • cincybearcat
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    jeffbr said:
    5 Facts:
    1. Russia assisted Trump
    2. Trump welcomed the assistance
    3. Trump obstructed the investigation into Russian assistance
    4. Trump stood on stage with Putin and sided with him instead of our intelligence community
    5. Trump has done nothing to secure the 2020 elections

    Yup. In order of MY importance:

    5
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    1
    2

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,975
    Smellyman said:
    You can always tell when somebody sips from right wing radio...
    Who is that exactly? 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,308
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    jeffbr said:
    4. Trump stood on stage with Putin and sided with him instead of our intelligence community
    This is the one that drives me nuts the most. Not because Trump did that because it's Trump and this is exactly what I expected the Trump presidency to be. But that fact that his fans think (or at least accept the lie) that he's some patriotic American is maddening. There's nothing less American than the president siding with the likes of the Russian president, North Korean dictator, and Saudi Arabian crown prince over your own intelligence agencies. Couple this with his completely insane treatment of the now dead John McCain, and I just don't understand how anyone can view him as a patriotic right-winger that loves America. 
    But, but, but Little Rocket Man sends Team Trump Treason love letters.

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,977
    edited May 2019
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Meltdown99 said:

    The producers should start putting a sticker on their products ”this product is now sadly 5% more expensive because of Donald Trump”
    This tariff's timing seems to be a deflection.

    However - we bitch and moan about other countries stealing jobs and then we bitch and moan about tariffs that try to level the playing field because we have to pay more?  Not sure about the mexico tariff but I am mostly aligned with Trump on the China tariffs and discussion.  It's the one area that he is actually trying to do the work of a president.  The US people don't have the stomach for any hard work anymore.
    I admit I have no problem with the trade war with China, since I think that every western nation should boycott China altogether until they get in line in terms of the right to freedom of its citizens, and stop being a totalitarian government with its hands all over international criminality that has a multi-billion dollar impact on our economies, i.e. money laundering and drug trafficking, among other things. The Chinese government is essentially the world's gangland boss. Obviously all of our countries continue to do business with them, eagerly, because of MONEY MONEY MONEY, and to hell with all the drugs and crime their government facilitates around the world, and to hell with the death and misery it brings upon its own people, and to hell with their extreme Big Brother tactics. Money rules as far as any of our own governments are concerned. I do know that complete boycotts on China would create global economic chaos if China refused to get in line very quickly (and maybe it would, who knows). Yes, I am aware it would destroy mega-companies and make things more expensive, etc etc etc. It would be like an economic revolution, and a messy one. But to me it would be worth it, frankly. It would stop this disturbing trend of everyone making China the fast-rising challenger in being the world's ultimate economic and military leader/dominator. I don't want to live in a world where a government like China's essentially rules the world. Fuck that. I can't believe we've all let it get as far as it has, with it being the way it is. This has to fucking stop... preferably without a fucking war with China, because I can't see anyone besides China winning that! Sigh. But I'm not an idiot. None of this will happen, and China will keep handily taking over the world.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    I'm not worried about China.  I just read that they are becoming addicted to Tim Horton's...that has been the plan all along...get them addicted to Timmies and we will bring them to their knees by the threat of replacing Tims wit Duncan donuts...
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,013
    PJ_Soul said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Meltdown99 said:

    The producers should start putting a sticker on their products ”this product is now sadly 5% more expensive because of Donald Trump”
    This tariff's timing seems to be a deflection.

    However - we bitch and moan about other countries stealing jobs and then we bitch and moan about tariffs that try to level the playing field because we have to pay more?  Not sure about the mexico tariff but I am mostly aligned with Trump on the China tariffs and discussion.  It's the one area that he is actually trying to do the work of a president.  The US people don't have the stomach for any hard work anymore.
    I admit I have no problem with the trade war with China, since I think that every western nation should boycott China altogether until the get in line in terms of the right to freedom of its citizens, and stops being a totalitarian government with its hands all over international criminality that has a multi-billion dollar impact on our economies, i.e. money laundering and drug trafficking, among other things. The Chinese government is essentially the world's gangland boss. Obviously all of our countries continue to do business with them, eagerly, because of MONEY MONEY MONEY, and to hell with all the drugs and crime their government facilitates around the world, and to hell with the death and misery it brings upon its own people, and to hell with their extreme Big Brother tactics. Money rules as far as any of our own governments are concerned. I do know that complete boycotts on China would create global economic chaos if China refused to get in line very quickly (and maybe it would, who knows). Yes, I am aware it would destroy mega-companies and make things more expensive, etc etc etc. It would be like an economic revolution, and a messy one. But to me it would be worth it, frankly. It would stop this disturbing trend of everyone making China the fast-rising challenger in being the world's ultimate economic and military leader/dominator. I don't want to live in a world where a government like China's essentially rules the world. Fuck that. I can't believe we've all let it get as far as it has, with it being the way it is. This has to fucking stop... preferably without a fucking war with China, because I can't see anyone besides China winning that! Sigh. But I'm not an idiot. None of this will happen, and China will keep handily take over the world.
    For the record, the TPP would have gone a long way to marginalize China.  While reducing trade barriers may seem to help the Chinese, strict labor standards along with pay minimums would make the Chinese labor market less desirable, and they were not even included in the talks.  Instead, Trump walked away from it (Bernie would have too, and Hillary was bullied into it... all mistakes), and China is now negotiating directly with SE Asia nations and strengthening its hand.  
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Team Trump Treason standing before the helicopter, waving his little hands around and shouting answers to questions we can't hear are for Faux News sound bites and Faux News sound bites only. Imagine Team Trump Treason answering questions on the stand from a skilled litigator, in a conference room during deposition or the White House with Team Mueller. None of that would be pretty and would be met with babble and, "I don't recall," more often than not. Just a bullshitter BSing his way through his first term, just like he's done his whole life.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    edited May 2019
    Watched a documentary about D-day on swedish television with colorized film. Went through it step by step. Damn what an operation. 



    Will be Interesting to see Donald Trumps doodle/plan for attacking Iran. 
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Team Trump Treason standing before the helicopter, waving his little hands around and shouting answers to questions we can't hear are for Faux News sound bites and Faux News sound bites only. Imagine Team Trump Treason answering questions on the stand from a skilled litigator, in a conference room during deposition or the White House with Team Mueller. None of that would be pretty and would be met with babble and, "I don't recall," more often than not. Just a bullshitter BSing his way through his first term, just like he's done his whole life.
    He can't even answer John Dickerson's questions
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Watched a documentary about D-day on swedish television with colorized film. Went through it step by step. Damn what an operation. 



    Will be Interesting to see Donald Trumps doodle/plan for attacking Iran. 

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  • ikiT
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    4. Trump stood on stage with Putin and sided with him instead of our intelligence community

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    Meltdown99 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Watched a documentary about D-day on swedish television with colorized film. Went through it step by step. Damn what an operation. 



    Will be Interesting to see Donald Trumps doodle/plan for attacking Iran. 

    The documentary went through all of those five "squadrons"(?) one by one. The US had my far the best looking helmets. 

    But crazy man. Such an operation. 
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