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mrussel1 said:
For the record, the TPP would have gone a long way to marginalize China. While reducing trade barriers may seem to help the Chinese, strict labor standards along with pay minimums would make the Chinese labor market less desirable, and they were not even included in the talks. Instead, Trump walked away from it (Bernie would have too, and Hillary was bullied into it... all mistakes), and China is now negotiating directly with SE Asia nations and strengthening its hand.PJ_Soul said:
I admit I have no problem with the trade war with China, since I think that every western nation should boycott China altogether until the get in line in terms of the right to freedom of its citizens, and stops being a totalitarian government with its hands all over international criminality that has a multi-billion dollar impact on our economies, i.e. money laundering and drug trafficking, among other things. The Chinese government is essentially the world's gangland boss. Obviously all of our countries continue to do business with them, eagerly, because of MONEY MONEY MONEY, and to hell with all the drugs and crime their government facilitates around the world, and to hell with the death and misery it brings upon its own people, and to hell with their extreme Big Brother tactics. Money rules as far as any of our own governments are concerned. I do know that complete boycotts on China would create global economic chaos if China refused to get in line very quickly (and maybe it would, who knows). Yes, I am aware it would destroy mega-companies and make things more expensive, etc etc etc. It would be like an economic revolution, and a messy one. But to me it would be worth it, frankly. It would stop this disturbing trend of everyone making China the fast-rising challenger in being the world's ultimate economic and military leader/dominator. I don't want to live in a world where a government like China's essentially rules the world. Fuck that. I can't believe we've all let it get as far as it has, with it being the way it is. This has to fucking stop... preferably without a fucking war with China, because I can't see anyone besides China winning that! Sigh. But I'm not an idiot. None of this will happen, and China will keep handily take over the world.cincybearcat said:
This tariff's timing seems to be a deflection.Spiritual_Chaos said:
The producers should start putting a sticker on their products ”this product is now sadly 5% more expensive because of Donald Trump”Meltdown99 said:
However - we bitch and moan about other countries stealing jobs and then we bitch and moan about tariffs that try to level the playing field because we have to pay more? Not sure about the mexico tariff but I am mostly aligned with Trump on the China tariffs and discussion. It's the one area that he is actually trying to do the work of a president. The US people don't have the stomach for any hard work anymore.
He cares not as much as marginalizing China as he does owning Obama.0 -
Very true. He would kill for a deal with NK that looked like the JCPOA, yet he panned that deal because Obama did it. Petty.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
For the record, the TPP would have gone a long way to marginalize China. While reducing trade barriers may seem to help the Chinese, strict labor standards along with pay minimums would make the Chinese labor market less desirable, and they were not even included in the talks. Instead, Trump walked away from it (Bernie would have too, and Hillary was bullied into it... all mistakes), and China is now negotiating directly with SE Asia nations and strengthening its hand.PJ_Soul said:
I admit I have no problem with the trade war with China, since I think that every western nation should boycott China altogether until the get in line in terms of the right to freedom of its citizens, and stops being a totalitarian government with its hands all over international criminality that has a multi-billion dollar impact on our economies, i.e. money laundering and drug trafficking, among other things. The Chinese government is essentially the world's gangland boss. Obviously all of our countries continue to do business with them, eagerly, because of MONEY MONEY MONEY, and to hell with all the drugs and crime their government facilitates around the world, and to hell with the death and misery it brings upon its own people, and to hell with their extreme Big Brother tactics. Money rules as far as any of our own governments are concerned. I do know that complete boycotts on China would create global economic chaos if China refused to get in line very quickly (and maybe it would, who knows). Yes, I am aware it would destroy mega-companies and make things more expensive, etc etc etc. It would be like an economic revolution, and a messy one. But to me it would be worth it, frankly. It would stop this disturbing trend of everyone making China the fast-rising challenger in being the world's ultimate economic and military leader/dominator. I don't want to live in a world where a government like China's essentially rules the world. Fuck that. I can't believe we've all let it get as far as it has, with it being the way it is. This has to fucking stop... preferably without a fucking war with China, because I can't see anyone besides China winning that! Sigh. But I'm not an idiot. None of this will happen, and China will keep handily take over the world.cincybearcat said:
This tariff's timing seems to be a deflection.Spiritual_Chaos said:
The producers should start putting a sticker on their products ”this product is now sadly 5% more expensive because of Donald Trump”Meltdown99 said:
However - we bitch and moan about other countries stealing jobs and then we bitch and moan about tariffs that try to level the playing field because we have to pay more? Not sure about the mexico tariff but I am mostly aligned with Trump on the China tariffs and discussion. It's the one area that he is actually trying to do the work of a president. The US people don't have the stomach for any hard work anymore.
He cares not as much as marginalizing China as he does owning Obama.0 -
Who in their right mind would make a deal with the Team Trump Treason administration? Horrible negotiator and reneges only minutes or days later. I wouldn’t trust anything Team Trump Treason agreed to.mrussel1 said:
Very true. He would kill for a deal with NK that looked like the JCPOA, yet he panned that deal because Obama did it. Petty.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
For the record, the TPP would have gone a long way to marginalize China. While reducing trade barriers may seem to help the Chinese, strict labor standards along with pay minimums would make the Chinese labor market less desirable, and they were not even included in the talks. Instead, Trump walked away from it (Bernie would have too, and Hillary was bullied into it... all mistakes), and China is now negotiating directly with SE Asia nations and strengthening its hand.PJ_Soul said:
I admit I have no problem with the trade war with China, since I think that every western nation should boycott China altogether until the get in line in terms of the right to freedom of its citizens, and stops being a totalitarian government with its hands all over international criminality that has a multi-billion dollar impact on our economies, i.e. money laundering and drug trafficking, among other things. The Chinese government is essentially the world's gangland boss. Obviously all of our countries continue to do business with them, eagerly, because of MONEY MONEY MONEY, and to hell with all the drugs and crime their government facilitates around the world, and to hell with the death and misery it brings upon its own people, and to hell with their extreme Big Brother tactics. Money rules as far as any of our own governments are concerned. I do know that complete boycotts on China would create global economic chaos if China refused to get in line very quickly (and maybe it would, who knows). Yes, I am aware it would destroy mega-companies and make things more expensive, etc etc etc. It would be like an economic revolution, and a messy one. But to me it would be worth it, frankly. It would stop this disturbing trend of everyone making China the fast-rising challenger in being the world's ultimate economic and military leader/dominator. I don't want to live in a world where a government like China's essentially rules the world. Fuck that. I can't believe we've all let it get as far as it has, with it being the way it is. This has to fucking stop... preferably without a fucking war with China, because I can't see anyone besides China winning that! Sigh. But I'm not an idiot. None of this will happen, and China will keep handily take over the world.cincybearcat said:
This tariff's timing seems to be a deflection.Spiritual_Chaos said:
The producers should start putting a sticker on their products ”this product is now sadly 5% more expensive because of Donald Trump”Meltdown99 said:
However - we bitch and moan about other countries stealing jobs and then we bitch and moan about tariffs that try to level the playing field because we have to pay more? Not sure about the mexico tariff but I am mostly aligned with Trump on the China tariffs and discussion. It's the one area that he is actually trying to do the work of a president. The US people don't have the stomach for any hard work anymore.
He cares not as much as marginalizing China as he does owning Obama.
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Literally no one. Everyone knows his word isn't worth shit.Halifax2TheMax said:
Who in their right mind would make a deal with the Team Trump Treason administration? Horrible negotiator and reneges only minutes or days later. I wouldn’t trust anything Team Trump Treason agreed to.mrussel1 said:
Very true. He would kill for a deal with NK that looked like the JCPOA, yet he panned that deal because Obama did it. Petty.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
For the record, the TPP would have gone a long way to marginalize China. While reducing trade barriers may seem to help the Chinese, strict labor standards along with pay minimums would make the Chinese labor market less desirable, and they were not even included in the talks. Instead, Trump walked away from it (Bernie would have too, and Hillary was bullied into it... all mistakes), and China is now negotiating directly with SE Asia nations and strengthening its hand.PJ_Soul said:
I admit I have no problem with the trade war with China, since I think that every western nation should boycott China altogether until the get in line in terms of the right to freedom of its citizens, and stops being a totalitarian government with its hands all over international criminality that has a multi-billion dollar impact on our economies, i.e. money laundering and drug trafficking, among other things. The Chinese government is essentially the world's gangland boss. Obviously all of our countries continue to do business with them, eagerly, because of MONEY MONEY MONEY, and to hell with all the drugs and crime their government facilitates around the world, and to hell with the death and misery it brings upon its own people, and to hell with their extreme Big Brother tactics. Money rules as far as any of our own governments are concerned. I do know that complete boycotts on China would create global economic chaos if China refused to get in line very quickly (and maybe it would, who knows). Yes, I am aware it would destroy mega-companies and make things more expensive, etc etc etc. It would be like an economic revolution, and a messy one. But to me it would be worth it, frankly. It would stop this disturbing trend of everyone making China the fast-rising challenger in being the world's ultimate economic and military leader/dominator. I don't want to live in a world where a government like China's essentially rules the world. Fuck that. I can't believe we've all let it get as far as it has, with it being the way it is. This has to fucking stop... preferably without a fucking war with China, because I can't see anyone besides China winning that! Sigh. But I'm not an idiot. None of this will happen, and China will keep handily take over the world.cincybearcat said:
This tariff's timing seems to be a deflection.Spiritual_Chaos said:
The producers should start putting a sticker on their products ”this product is now sadly 5% more expensive because of Donald Trump”Meltdown99 said:
However - we bitch and moan about other countries stealing jobs and then we bitch and moan about tariffs that try to level the playing field because we have to pay more? Not sure about the mexico tariff but I am mostly aligned with Trump on the China tariffs and discussion. It's the one area that he is actually trying to do the work of a president. The US people don't have the stomach for any hard work anymore.
He cares not as much as marginalizing China as he does owning Obama.
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Boy, do I ever find this comparing how big countries' war balls are distasteful and low brow. Just voicing my opinion about it. Carry on.
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Great Chris Cornell albumPJ_Soul said:Boy, do I ever find this comparing how big countries' war balls are distasteful and low brow. Just voicing my opinion about it. Carry on."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Remember that authoritarianism we were talking about? Another step closer.
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lol he called Meghan Markle "nasty"Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/20140
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https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-says-he-would-be-much-better-princess-than-meghan-markle
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LOL. WTF. He is going completely nuts.josevolution said:https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-says-he-would-be-much-better-princess-than-meghan-markle
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I heard it was a TMZ intercept of a phone call with a Mar-I-Lieo member.josevolution said:https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-says-he-would-be-much-better-princess-than-meghan-markle
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Not for realjosevolution said:https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-says-he-would-be-much-better-princess-than-meghan-markle
Is this for realzzz man he’s totally nuts or what would you call it ..
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So why does he call Meghan nasty, is there a particular reason?josevolution said:https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-says-he-would-be-much-better-princess-than-meghan-markle
Is this for realzzz man he’s totally nuts or what would you call it ..
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Borowitz Report - all satire! I find it hilarious though.g under p said:
So why does he call Meghan nasty, is there a particular reason?josevolution said:https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-says-he-would-be-much-better-princess-than-meghan-markle
Is this for realzzz man he’s totally nuts or what would you call it ..
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What a surprise...
Trump tells UK he 'wouldn't pay' $50 billion Brexit divorce bill
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/02/politics/trump-sunday-times-interview-brexit-grb-intl/index.html
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Trump would somehow make the bill $150 billion.ikiT said:What a surprise...Trump tells UK he 'wouldn't pay' $50 billion Brexit divorce bill
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When Trump says he won’t pay a bill that’s probably the one thing you can believe.Give Peas A Chance…0
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