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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    https://twitter.com/deanobeidallah/status/1124440519440990208?s=21
    another disgraceful human I don’t care what kind of General he was he’s completely ruined his reputation, peice of shit human !

    More swamp draining 

    But it's  okay as long as my net worth is up and my 401K value is up
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    https://twitter.com/deanobeidallah/status/1124440519440990208?s=21
    another disgraceful human I don’t care what kind of General he was he’s completely ruined his reputation, peice of shit human !

    More swamp draining 

    But it's  okay as long as my net worth is up and my 401K value is up
    Sell some crypto yo, and get in on the explosive growth yo!

     https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/homestead-miami-child-migrant-camp-operators-will-be-part-of-100-million-ipo-11059423
    Unreal there’s no amount of $ that would make me work in such places 

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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,473
    edited May 2019
    This has real potential, under this government, to result in crimes against humanity, if that isn't already the case. I barely even want to let my mind go to what is certainly taking place already in these detention centers, and what kinds of laws are likely being broken constantly. I would comfortably bet that A LOT of what is going on down there isn't known by the general public (yet), and the worse it gets, the less we'll know. The government will be more focused on cover ups to try and make Trump look better than it will be on trying to make the situation better for the humans involved, especially given the fact that this government is basically incapable of administrative competency, since the POTUS doesn't see any reason to assign people who actually know what they're doing to any posts that govern any of this, while the new plan is to round these people all up and detain them, which is completely impossible to do in a humane way. Complete chaos, and it all comes back to Trump.

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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/videos/politics/2019/05/09/trump-panama-city-rally-migrant-border-audience-member-sot-vpx.cnn
    I wonder if he really would authorize if he could , he states other countries do ? Which countries? 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    https://twitter.com/joyannreid/status/1127658733180456961?s=21
    Let’s not forget theee kids specially today on Mother’s Day
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,524
    Maga.....

    Exclusive photos reveal children sleeping on the ground at Border Patrol station https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/14/politics/border-patrol-mcallen-texas-pictures/index.html
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,473
    edited May 2019
    Trump wants to start rounding up parents with their children in cities now, and start with mass detention and deportation away from the border. The ICE directors who were against doing this for obvious reasons were fired, so I don't think there is really anything stopping him from actually doing this now.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,853
    PJ_Soul said:
    Trump wants to start rounding up parents with their children in cities now, and start with mass detention and deportation away from the border. The ICE directors who were against doing this for obvious reasons were fired, so I don't think there is really anything stopping him from actually doing this now.
    I believe this is how Sheriff Joe Arpaio got in trouble?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    County officials should give them a tent and a sleeping bag and bus them to the gates of Mar-I-Lieo and set up some port o potties and call it a day.

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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    https://twitter.com/guardiannews/status/1130529885330579457?s=21
    # 5 let’s see how many more it will take before the idiot in chief actually does something about this issue..
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  • mattsl1983mattsl1983 Posts: 711
    I’m not exactly sure of the point of this topic. Are you talking about legal immigration or illegal immigration?  There is a huge difference.  Immigration itself can’t be lumped into one broad post without defining what immigration you are asking about.  That is if you are interested in actually talking about issues and problems.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    I’m not exactly sure of the point of this topic. Are you talking about legal immigration or illegal immigration?  There is a huge difference.  Immigration itself can’t be lumped into one broad post without defining what immigration you are asking about.  That is if you are interested in actually talking about issues and problems.
    What ? Yes we all know immigration needs reform ! Are you ok with kids dying in captivity? Are you ok with kids sleeping on the ground with tin foil blankets etc etc are you ok with separating kids from parents? All easy ?s you are either ok with it or your not ..
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,712
    I’m not exactly sure of the point of this topic. Are you talking about legal immigration or illegal immigration?  There is a huge difference.  Immigration itself can’t be lumped into one broad post without defining what immigration you are asking about.  That is if you are interested in actually talking about issues and problems.
    What ? Yes we all know immigration needs reform ! Are you ok with kids dying in captivity? Are you ok with kids sleeping on the ground with tin foil blankets etc etc are you ok with separating kids from parents? All easy ?s you are either ok with it or your not ..
    There's currently like 52,000 migrants in "captivity." I put captivity in quotations because...are they "captured?" Or are they allowed to turn and go back? I ask that seriously because I don't know the answer. And nobody wants to see kids sleeping on the ground in tin foil blankets. But what is the US government to do? Give immediate free room and board to every migrant seeking asylum? They can't do that. But the migrants keep coming and coming. And now there's no room for them all, and that's why there are pictures of kids sleeping on ground.

    The separation of kids and families is moronic. I don't think they're doing that anymore (though I'm not sure), but the damage is already done. Many of those kids that were separated from their families around the time of the mid-term election will never see their families again. That's horrible.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,821
    I’m not exactly sure of the point of this topic. Are you talking about legal immigration or illegal immigration?  There is a huge difference.  Immigration itself can’t be lumped into one broad post without defining what immigration you are asking about.  That is if you are interested in actually talking about issues and problems.
    What ? Yes we all know immigration needs reform ! Are you ok with kids dying in captivity? Are you ok with kids sleeping on the ground with tin foil blankets etc etc are you ok with separating kids from parents? All easy ?s you are either ok with it or your not ..
    There's currently like 52,000 migrants in "captivity." I put captivity in quotations because...are they "captured?" Or are they allowed to turn and go back? I ask that seriously because I don't know the answer. And nobody wants to see kids sleeping on the ground in tin foil blankets. But what is the US government to do? Give immediate free room and board to every migrant seeking asylum? They can't do that. But the migrants keep coming and coming. And now there's no room for them all, and that's why there are pictures of kids sleeping on ground.

    The separation of kids and families is moronic. I don't think they're doing that anymore (though I'm not sure), but the damage is already done. Many of those kids that were separated from their families around the time of the mid-term election will never see their families again. That's horrible.

    Children are still being separated from their families. The Trump administration is exploiting loopholes that were meant to be for rare circumstances. Is anyone surprised?
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,821
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,712
    I’m not exactly sure of the point of this topic. Are you talking about legal immigration or illegal immigration?  There is a huge difference.  Immigration itself can’t be lumped into one broad post without defining what immigration you are asking about.  That is if you are interested in actually talking about issues and problems.
    What ? Yes we all know immigration needs reform ! Are you ok with kids dying in captivity? Are you ok with kids sleeping on the ground with tin foil blankets etc etc are you ok with separating kids from parents? All easy ?s you are either ok with it or your not ..
    There's currently like 52,000 migrants in "captivity." I put captivity in quotations because...are they "captured?" Or are they allowed to turn and go back? I ask that seriously because I don't know the answer. And nobody wants to see kids sleeping on the ground in tin foil blankets. But what is the US government to do? Give immediate free room and board to every migrant seeking asylum? They can't do that. But the migrants keep coming and coming. And now there's no room for them all, and that's why there are pictures of kids sleeping on ground.

    The separation of kids and families is moronic. I don't think they're doing that anymore (though I'm not sure), but the damage is already done. Many of those kids that were separated from their families around the time of the mid-term election will never see their families again. That's horrible.

    Children are still being separated from their families. The Trump administration is exploiting loopholes that were meant to be for rare circumstances. Is anyone surprised?
    I am actually a little surprised. I thought there might be enough of a humanitarian outcry/backlash that they'd stop doing this, if for no other reason, political points. 
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,712
    Ugh...I just don't see the logic in separating children from their parents. Detain them together, deport them together. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    Ugh...I just don't see the logic in separating children from their parents. Detain them together, deport them together. 
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,821
    I’m not exactly sure of the point of this topic. Are you talking about legal immigration or illegal immigration?  There is a huge difference.  Immigration itself can’t be lumped into one broad post without defining what immigration you are asking about.  That is if you are interested in actually talking about issues and problems.
    What ? Yes we all know immigration needs reform ! Are you ok with kids dying in captivity? Are you ok with kids sleeping on the ground with tin foil blankets etc etc are you ok with separating kids from parents? All easy ?s you are either ok with it or your not ..
    There's currently like 52,000 migrants in "captivity." I put captivity in quotations because...are they "captured?" Or are they allowed to turn and go back? I ask that seriously because I don't know the answer. And nobody wants to see kids sleeping on the ground in tin foil blankets. But what is the US government to do? Give immediate free room and board to every migrant seeking asylum? They can't do that. But the migrants keep coming and coming. And now there's no room for them all, and that's why there are pictures of kids sleeping on ground.

    The separation of kids and families is moronic. I don't think they're doing that anymore (though I'm not sure), but the damage is already done. Many of those kids that were separated from their families around the time of the mid-term election will never see their families again. That's horrible.

    Children are still being separated from their families. The Trump administration is exploiting loopholes that were meant to be for rare circumstances. Is anyone surprised?
    I am actually a little surprised. I thought there might be enough of a humanitarian outcry/backlash that they'd stop doing this, if for no other reason, political points. 

    If you read the article, you can see that Nielsen reports that they stopped doing it because there was no political percentage in it; not because it was vile and inhumane, but because it wasn't politically useful. And yet, the practice continues, under the guise of "protecting children". 
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,712
    I’m not exactly sure of the point of this topic. Are you talking about legal immigration or illegal immigration?  There is a huge difference.  Immigration itself can’t be lumped into one broad post without defining what immigration you are asking about.  That is if you are interested in actually talking about issues and problems.
    What ? Yes we all know immigration needs reform ! Are you ok with kids dying in captivity? Are you ok with kids sleeping on the ground with tin foil blankets etc etc are you ok with separating kids from parents? All easy ?s you are either ok with it or your not ..
    There's currently like 52,000 migrants in "captivity." I put captivity in quotations because...are they "captured?" Or are they allowed to turn and go back? I ask that seriously because I don't know the answer. And nobody wants to see kids sleeping on the ground in tin foil blankets. But what is the US government to do? Give immediate free room and board to every migrant seeking asylum? They can't do that. But the migrants keep coming and coming. And now there's no room for them all, and that's why there are pictures of kids sleeping on ground.

    The separation of kids and families is moronic. I don't think they're doing that anymore (though I'm not sure), but the damage is already done. Many of those kids that were separated from their families around the time of the mid-term election will never see their families again. That's horrible.

    Children are still being separated from their families. The Trump administration is exploiting loopholes that were meant to be for rare circumstances. Is anyone surprised?
    I am actually a little surprised. I thought there might be enough of a humanitarian outcry/backlash that they'd stop doing this, if for no other reason, political points. 

    If you read the article, you can see that Nielsen reports that they stopped doing it because there was no political percentage in it; not because it was vile and inhumane, but because it wasn't politically useful. And yet, the practice continues, under the guise of "protecting children". 
    And that’s unsurprising part: that they don’t give a fuck if it doesn’t hurt then politically. Where has all the outcry gone? The left was up in arms about the family separations during the mid-terms, but I haven’t heard much since.

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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    I’m not exactly sure of the point of this topic. Are you talking about legal immigration or illegal immigration?  There is a huge difference.  Immigration itself can’t be lumped into one broad post without defining what immigration you are asking about.  That is if you are interested in actually talking about issues and problems.
    What ? Yes we all know immigration needs reform ! Are you ok with kids dying in captivity? Are you ok with kids sleeping on the ground with tin foil blankets etc etc are you ok with separating kids from parents? All easy ?s you are either ok with it or your not ..
    There's currently like 52,000 migrants in "captivity." I put captivity in quotations because...are they "captured?" Or are they allowed to turn and go back? I ask that seriously because I don't know the answer. And nobody wants to see kids sleeping on the ground in tin foil blankets. But what is the US government to do? Give immediate free room and board to every migrant seeking asylum? They can't do that. But the migrants keep coming and coming. And now there's no room for them all, and that's why there are pictures of kids sleeping on ground.

    The separation of kids and families is moronic. I don't think they're doing that anymore (though I'm not sure), but the damage is already done. Many of those kids that were separated from their families around the time of the mid-term election will never see their families again. That's horrible.

    Children are still being separated from their families. The Trump administration is exploiting loopholes that were meant to be for rare circumstances. Is anyone surprised?
    I am actually a little surprised. I thought there might be enough of a humanitarian outcry/backlash that they'd stop doing this, if for no other reason, political points. 

    If you read the article, you can see that Nielsen reports that they stopped doing it because there was no political percentage in it; not because it was vile and inhumane, but because it wasn't politically useful. And yet, the practice continues, under the guise of "protecting children". 
    And that’s unsurprising part: that they don’t give a fuck if it doesn’t hurt then politically. Where has all the outcry gone? The left was up in arms about the family separations during the mid-terms, but I haven’t heard much since.

    I’m guessing “the left” doesn’t have much in the way of an alternative plan?

  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,821
    I’m not exactly sure of the point of this topic. Are you talking about legal immigration or illegal immigration?  There is a huge difference.  Immigration itself can’t be lumped into one broad post without defining what immigration you are asking about.  That is if you are interested in actually talking about issues and problems.
    What ? Yes we all know immigration needs reform ! Are you ok with kids dying in captivity? Are you ok with kids sleeping on the ground with tin foil blankets etc etc are you ok with separating kids from parents? All easy ?s you are either ok with it or your not ..
    There's currently like 52,000 migrants in "captivity." I put captivity in quotations because...are they "captured?" Or are they allowed to turn and go back? I ask that seriously because I don't know the answer. And nobody wants to see kids sleeping on the ground in tin foil blankets. But what is the US government to do? Give immediate free room and board to every migrant seeking asylum? They can't do that. But the migrants keep coming and coming. And now there's no room for them all, and that's why there are pictures of kids sleeping on ground.

    The separation of kids and families is moronic. I don't think they're doing that anymore (though I'm not sure), but the damage is already done. Many of those kids that were separated from their families around the time of the mid-term election will never see their families again. That's horrible.

    Children are still being separated from their families. The Trump administration is exploiting loopholes that were meant to be for rare circumstances. Is anyone surprised?
    I am actually a little surprised. I thought there might be enough of a humanitarian outcry/backlash that they'd stop doing this, if for no other reason, political points. 

    If you read the article, you can see that Nielsen reports that they stopped doing it because there was no political percentage in it; not because it was vile and inhumane, but because it wasn't politically useful. And yet, the practice continues, under the guise of "protecting children". 
    And that’s unsurprising part: that they don’t give a fuck if it doesn’t hurt then politically. Where has all the outcry gone? The left was up in arms about the family separations during the mid-terms, but I haven’t heard much since.


    Certainly not as much discussion, but I do see articles about it. The numbers have gone down, and I suspect that most people, like you, thought it wasn't occurring any more. 
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    edited May 2019
    PJPOWER said:
    I’m not exactly sure of the point of this topic. Are you talking about legal immigration or illegal immigration?  There is a huge difference.  Immigration itself can’t be lumped into one broad post without defining what immigration you are asking about.  That is if you are interested in actually talking about issues and problems.
    What ? Yes we all know immigration needs reform ! Are you ok with kids dying in captivity? Are you ok with kids sleeping on the ground with tin foil blankets etc etc are you ok with separating kids from parents? All easy ?s you are either ok with it or your not ..
    There's currently like 52,000 migrants in "captivity." I put captivity in quotations because...are they "captured?" Or are they allowed to turn and go back? I ask that seriously because I don't know the answer. And nobody wants to see kids sleeping on the ground in tin foil blankets. But what is the US government to do? Give immediate free room and board to every migrant seeking asylum? They can't do that. But the migrants keep coming and coming. And now there's no room for them all, and that's why there are pictures of kids sleeping on ground.

    The separation of kids and families is moronic. I don't think they're doing that anymore (though I'm not sure), but the damage is already done. Many of those kids that were separated from their families around the time of the mid-term election will never see their families again. That's horrible.

    Children are still being separated from their families. The Trump administration is exploiting loopholes that were meant to be for rare circumstances. Is anyone surprised?
    I am actually a little surprised. I thought there might be enough of a humanitarian outcry/backlash that they'd stop doing this, if for no other reason, political points. 

    If you read the article, you can see that Nielsen reports that they stopped doing it because there was no political percentage in it; not because it was vile and inhumane, but because it wasn't politically useful. And yet, the practice continues, under the guise of "protecting children". 
    And that’s unsurprising part: that they don’t give a fuck if it doesn’t hurt then politically. Where has all the outcry gone? The left was up in arms about the family separations during the mid-terms, but I haven’t heard much since.

    I’m guessing “the left” doesn’t have much in the way of an alternative plan?

    The left is getting exhausted trying to make the right do the right thing.

    It might be the time for Trump voters such as yourself to try and hold your representatives to account. That might actually do something, they sure don't give a fuck what anyone on the left thinks.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    I’m not exactly sure of the point of this topic. Are you talking about legal immigration or illegal immigration?  There is a huge difference.  Immigration itself can’t be lumped into one broad post without defining what immigration you are asking about.  That is if you are interested in actually talking about issues and problems.
    What ? Yes we all know immigration needs reform ! Are you ok with kids dying in captivity? Are you ok with kids sleeping on the ground with tin foil blankets etc etc are you ok with separating kids from parents? All easy ?s you are either ok with it or your not ..
    There's currently like 52,000 migrants in "captivity." I put captivity in quotations because...are they "captured?" Or are they allowed to turn and go back? I ask that seriously because I don't know the answer. And nobody wants to see kids sleeping on the ground in tin foil blankets. But what is the US government to do? Give immediate free room and board to every migrant seeking asylum? They can't do that. But the migrants keep coming and coming. And now there's no room for them all, and that's why there are pictures of kids sleeping on ground.

    The separation of kids and families is moronic. I don't think they're doing that anymore (though I'm not sure), but the damage is already done. Many of those kids that were separated from their families around the time of the mid-term election will never see their families again. That's horrible.

    Children are still being separated from their families. The Trump administration is exploiting loopholes that were meant to be for rare circumstances. Is anyone surprised?
    I am actually a little surprised. I thought there might be enough of a humanitarian outcry/backlash that they'd stop doing this, if for no other reason, political points. 

    If you read the article, you can see that Nielsen reports that they stopped doing it because there was no political percentage in it; not because it was vile and inhumane, but because it wasn't politically useful. And yet, the practice continues, under the guise of "protecting children". 
    And that’s unsurprising part: that they don’t give a fuck if it doesn’t hurt then politically. Where has all the outcry gone? The left was up in arms about the family separations during the mid-terms, but I haven’t heard much since.

    I’m guessing “the left” doesn’t have much in the way of an alternative plan?

    The left is getting exhausted trying to make the right do the right thing.

    It might be the time for Trump voters such as yourself to try and hold your representatives to account. That might actually do something, they sure don't give a fuck what anyone on the left thinks.
    So...what is “the left’s” alternative “right” plan regarding immigration reform?  Your retort is that the left is tired?  Really?
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    I’m not exactly sure of the point of this topic. Are you talking about legal immigration or illegal immigration?  There is a huge difference.  Immigration itself can’t be lumped into one broad post without defining what immigration you are asking about.  That is if you are interested in actually talking about issues and problems.
    What ? Yes we all know immigration needs reform ! Are you ok with kids dying in captivity? Are you ok with kids sleeping on the ground with tin foil blankets etc etc are you ok with separating kids from parents? All easy ?s you are either ok with it or your not ..
    There's currently like 52,000 migrants in "captivity." I put captivity in quotations because...are they "captured?" Or are they allowed to turn and go back? I ask that seriously because I don't know the answer. And nobody wants to see kids sleeping on the ground in tin foil blankets. But what is the US government to do? Give immediate free room and board to every migrant seeking asylum? They can't do that. But the migrants keep coming and coming. And now there's no room for them all, and that's why there are pictures of kids sleeping on ground.

    The separation of kids and families is moronic. I don't think they're doing that anymore (though I'm not sure), but the damage is already done. Many of those kids that were separated from their families around the time of the mid-term election will never see their families again. That's horrible.

    Children are still being separated from their families. The Trump administration is exploiting loopholes that were meant to be for rare circumstances. Is anyone surprised?
    I am actually a little surprised. I thought there might be enough of a humanitarian outcry/backlash that they'd stop doing this, if for no other reason, political points. 

    If you read the article, you can see that Nielsen reports that they stopped doing it because there was no political percentage in it; not because it was vile and inhumane, but because it wasn't politically useful. And yet, the practice continues, under the guise of "protecting children". 
    And that’s unsurprising part: that they don’t give a fuck if it doesn’t hurt then politically. Where has all the outcry gone? The left was up in arms about the family separations during the mid-terms, but I haven’t heard much since.

    I’m guessing “the left” doesn’t have much in the way of an alternative plan?

    The left is getting exhausted trying to make the right do the right thing.

    It might be the time for Trump voters such as yourself to try and hold your representatives to account. That might actually do something, they sure don't give a fuck what anyone on the left thinks.
    So...what is “the left’s” alternative “right” plan regarding immigration reform?  Your retort is that the left is tired?  Really?
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    I’m not exactly sure of the point of this topic. Are you talking about legal immigration or illegal immigration?  There is a huge difference.  Immigration itself can’t be lumped into one broad post without defining what immigration you are asking about.  That is if you are interested in actually talking about issues and problems.
    What ? Yes we all know immigration needs reform ! Are you ok with kids dying in captivity? Are you ok with kids sleeping on the ground with tin foil blankets etc etc are you ok with separating kids from parents? All easy ?s you are either ok with it or your not ..
    There's currently like 52,000 migrants in "captivity." I put captivity in quotations because...are they "captured?" Or are they allowed to turn and go back? I ask that seriously because I don't know the answer. And nobody wants to see kids sleeping on the ground in tin foil blankets. But what is the US government to do? Give immediate free room and board to every migrant seeking asylum? They can't do that. But the migrants keep coming and coming. And now there's no room for them all, and that's why there are pictures of kids sleeping on ground.

    The separation of kids and families is moronic. I don't think they're doing that anymore (though I'm not sure), but the damage is already done. Many of those kids that were separated from their families around the time of the mid-term election will never see their families again. That's horrible.

    Children are still being separated from their families. The Trump administration is exploiting loopholes that were meant to be for rare circumstances. Is anyone surprised?
    I am actually a little surprised. I thought there might be enough of a humanitarian outcry/backlash that they'd stop doing this, if for no other reason, political points. 

    If you read the article, you can see that Nielsen reports that they stopped doing it because there was no political percentage in it; not because it was vile and inhumane, but because it wasn't politically useful. And yet, the practice continues, under the guise of "protecting children". 
    And that’s unsurprising part: that they don’t give a fuck if it doesn’t hurt then politically. Where has all the outcry gone? The left was up in arms about the family separations during the mid-terms, but I haven’t heard much since.

    I’m guessing “the left” doesn’t have much in the way of an alternative plan?

    The left is getting exhausted trying to make the right do the right thing.

    It might be the time for Trump voters such as yourself to try and hold your representatives to account. That might actually do something, they sure don't give a fuck what anyone on the left thinks.
    So...what is “the left’s” alternative “right” plan regarding immigration reform?  Your retort is that the left is tired?  Really?
    The left has offered plenty of plans for immigration reform, some of it bi-partisan (Flake and others). 

    Your boys McConnell and Trump have no interest to getting a deal done as shown by their actions.

    This is a manufactured crisis by design, as has been shown here on this thread many times. Maybe you just aren't paying attention?

    So, are you with me in holding the current administrations feet to the fire? They've had 2+ years to fix this problem and its only gotten exponentially worse. 




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