14 years and counting...

PJ_Soul

“There we will set our position, which, I repeat, will take into account that we want to have a good neighbor with the United States, but at the same time defending the dignity of Mexico,” he said. “We want to act with great prudence, but at the same time with firmness in the defense of our sovereignty.”

López Obrador initially responded harshly to Trump’s latest threat, writing in a letter to the U.S. president last week that his “America First” policy was “a fallacy.” But he has since emphasized his interest in maintaining a warm relationship with Trump.

Trump’s abrupt tariff threat has imperiled prospects for congressional ratification of his new North American trade deal. Roughly two weeks ago, Trump agreed to lift tariffs on steel and aluminum imports from Mexico and Canada, meeting a condition that Senate Republicans had set before they would vote on the proposed U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement.

That trade deal largely preserves the tariff-free trading relations between the United States and its southern neighbor established in the 1994 North American Free Trade Agreement, which Trump routinely disparages as “one of the worst trade deals ever made.”

As Trump pushes ahead, business leaders and members of his own party are scrambling to head off the imposition of new tariffs that would likely result in retaliatory measures by Mexico targeting American farmers and manufacturers.

“We are committed to enhancing the U.S.-Mexico economic relationship and favor more trade, not tariffs. Imposing tariffs on Mexico does not address the root causes of migration and jeopardizes our shared economic interests,” the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and its Mexican counterpart, the Business Coordinating Council, said in a joint statement.

Through April, Mexico has been the largest U.S. trading partner. Last year, when it ranked third behind China and Canada, Mexico shipped almost $350 billion worth of autos, auto parts, industrial machinery and farm products to U.S. customers.

With little more than 96 hours remaining before the tariffs are scheduled to take effect, businesses across the United States are scrambling to draw up contingency plans.

“We’re very concerned,” said Adam Briggs, vice president of sales and marketing for Trans-Matic Manufacturing in Holland, Mich. “Businesses crave certainty. When the rules are constantly changing, we have a hard time.”

catefrances

wow deporting asylum seekers to a third country....sounds familiar. 

Meltdown99

I thought Obama housed them at 5 start retreats.  Maybe someone should tell Trump Obama did similar, then Trump would house them at 5 start retreats...

https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1138651755728629760

Using military bases in this way is not new. In 2014, the Obama Administration placed around 7,700 migrant children on bases in Texas, California and Oklahoma, including Fort Sill. The temporary shelters were shuttered after four months. Last year, the government evaluated several military bases to shelter migrants, but ultimately decided not to use the facilities.

oftenreading

A jury in Arizona failed to reach a verdict regarding an activist charged with "conspiracy to transport and harbour migrants", a charge that could have led to a 20 year jail term, for providing water and food to migrants.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/11/arizona-activist-migrant-water-scott-daniel-warren-verdict

PJ_Soul

An Expert on Concentration Camps Says That's Exactly What the U.S. Is Running at the Border

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a27813648/concentration-camps-southern-border-migrant-detention-facilities-trump/?fbclid=IwAR0NQ0OHqv7ZF9HelLY3iKxTVOXeLAkgDzS71zVUGbMubGvGIMb6MfYNN14

RunIntoTheRain

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-administration-argues-detained-migrant-children-dont-need-toothbrushes-soap/ar-AADbenO?li=BBnbcA1

josevolution

Maybe the plan is to just let the kids fend for themselves..

Halifax2TheMax

USA USA USA USA USA USA

https://apple.news/A4pPG2SgUTviZffZpXX6r9w

tempo_n_groove

PJ_Soul said:

An Expert on Concentration Camps Says That's Exactly What the U.S. Is Running at the Border

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a27813648/concentration-camps-southern-border-migrant-detention-facilities-trump/?fbclid=IwAR0NQ0OHqv7ZF9HelLY3iKxTVOXeLAkgDzS71zVUGbMubGvGIMb6MfYNN14

This is a very interesting read.

Thank you.

cincybearcat

tempo_n_groove said:

PJ_Soul said:

An Expert on Concentration Camps Says That's Exactly What the U.S. Is Running at the Border

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a27813648/concentration-camps-southern-border-migrant-detention-facilities-trump/?fbclid=IwAR0NQ0OHqv7ZF9HelLY3iKxTVOXeLAkgDzS71zVUGbMubGvGIMb6MfYNN14

This is a very interesting read.

Thank you.

Will have to read later. Isn’t there a big difference between round people up from their homes and putting them in a camp to having people come to your border and putting them in a camp?

bootlegger10

For all the talk that there are less immigrants coming you would think the infrastructure we had in place would be sufficient to handle all those coming across the border.  Why is there such a strain on the system right now if the problem is supposedly decreasing?

tempo_n_groove

bootlegger10 said:

For all the talk that there are less immigrants coming you would think the infrastructure we had in place would be sufficient to handle all those coming across the border.  Why is there such a strain on the system right now if the problem is supposedly decreasing?

This problem has been talked about for years but not much care in it.  Now that Trump is President it has become a focal point.

Change my mind.

mcgruff10

RoleModelsinBlood31

tempo_n_groove said:

bootlegger10 said:

For all the talk that there are less immigrants coming you would think the infrastructure we had in place would be sufficient to handle all those coming across the border.  Why is there such a strain on the system right now if the problem is supposedly decreasing?

This problem has been talked about for years but not much care in it.  Now that Trump is President it has become a focal point.

Change my mind.

Yes and no, we have a lot more folks coming than ever before.  We don’t have enough facilities because the numbers are so much higher than in the past.  It starts with more facilities and more judges- the quicker they can get in front of a judge, the quicker they get released into the country, less time in the cages.

starts with the govt.  since one side is holding things up, we can’t get more facilities or judges or anything, so it just bottlenecks in the cages.

i feel for the border towns as much as the immigrants.  They’re being inundated and overrun and have no where to turn since the govt won’t address the needs.

PJ_Soul

cincybearcat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

PJ_Soul said:

An Expert on Concentration Camps Says That's Exactly What the U.S. Is Running at the Border

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a27813648/concentration-camps-southern-border-migrant-detention-facilities-trump/?fbclid=IwAR0NQ0OHqv7ZF9HelLY3iKxTVOXeLAkgDzS71zVUGbMubGvGIMb6MfYNN14

This is a very interesting read.

Thank you.

Will have to read later. Isn’t there a big difference between round people up from their homes and putting them in a camp to having people come to your border and putting them in a camp?

Concentration camps are defined by the conditions and practices maintained within the camps, not by where the prisoners came from. But FWIW, once ICE starts these raids that Trump keeps threatening, they'll be throwing people who were rounded up from their homes in them as well.

mcgruff10

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

PJ_Soul said:

An Expert on Concentration Camps Says That's Exactly What the U.S. Is Running at the Border

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a27813648/concentration-camps-southern-border-migrant-detention-facilities-trump/?fbclid=IwAR0NQ0OHqv7ZF9HelLY3iKxTVOXeLAkgDzS71zVUGbMubGvGIMb6MfYNN14

This is a very interesting read.

Thank you.

Will have to read later. Isn’t there a big difference between round people up from their homes and putting them in a camp to having people come to your border and putting them in a camp?

Concentration camps are defined by the conditions and practices maintained within the camps, not by where the prisoners came from. But FWIW, once ICE starts these raids that Trump keeps threatening, they'll be throwing people who were rounded up from their homes in them as well.

Yeah but the people who are being rounded up are here illegally which to me is a big difference.  “We will be going after individuals who have gone through due process, who have received final orders of deportation," he said. "That will include families. Right now we’re talking about that and what it should look like.”

Meltdown99

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

PJ_Soul said:

An Expert on Concentration Camps Says That's Exactly What the U.S. Is Running at the Border

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a27813648/concentration-camps-southern-border-migrant-detention-facilities-trump/?fbclid=IwAR0NQ0OHqv7ZF9HelLY3iKxTVOXeLAkgDzS71zVUGbMubGvGIMb6MfYNN14

This is a very interesting read.

Thank you.

Will have to read later. Isn’t there a big difference between round people up from their homes and putting them in a camp to having people come to your border and putting them in a camp?

Concentration camps are defined by the conditions and practices maintained within the camps, not by where the prisoners came from. But FWIW, once ICE starts these raids that Trump keeps threatening, they'll be throwing people who were rounded up from their homes in them as well.

Yeah but the people who are being rounded up are here illegally which to me is a big difference.  “We will be going after individuals who have gone through due process, who have received final orders of deportation," he said. "That will include families. Right now we’re talking about that and what it should look like.”

Some people would like to see the US do like Canada and put them up in 3-5 star hotels while we have homeless people and many veterans homeless...not to mention many 1st nation reserves are short of needed money...

dignin

Over 100 migrant children returned to 'horrific' border station

"There was nobody taking care of these children... they were not being bathed on a regular basis," Prof Warren Binford of Williamette University in Oregon told the BBC after visiting the Clint facility in Texas.

"Several hundred of the children had been kept in a warehouse that was recently erected on the facility grounds."

"The cells are overcrowded... there's a lice infestation there, there is an influenza outbreak. Children are being locked up in isolation with no adult supervision, who are very, very ill and they're just lying on the ground on mats."

Elora Mukherjee, another lawyer who visited the facility, told CBS News: "They were wearing the same dirty clothing they crossed the border with."

"It is degrading and inhumane and shouldn't be happening in America."

As stories of substandard conditions in facilities have continued to emerge, some volunteers have tried to donate supplies - only to be turned away by border officials.

One group told the Texas Tribune they spent $340 (£267) on diapers, wipes, soaps and toys for the Clint facility, but were completely ignored by all the agents on duty.

Another Clint resident who tried to visit the Clint station told the Tribune: "Knowing what's happening in your community and that you can't give these kids supplies to clean or clothe themselves - it's heartbreaking."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48763323

Disgusting.

Bentleyspop

Maybe his morals and ethics made a stand?

Acting Customs and Border Protection commissioner to leave as immigration tensions escalate
https://news.yahoo.com/acting-customs-border-protection-commissioner-171458301.html

josevolution

So let me get this straight if I drive up to store with my child in car seat and I run in leaving child in car cops can be called and child services will show up , threatening to take your kid for neglect & endangerment...
yet we have children sleeping on concrete floors with feces covered clothing , no toothpaste or toothbrush or soap or clean towels and no one can be charged wtf happened to this country!