Abortion-Keep Legal, Yes or No?

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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mickeyrat said:
    dignin said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Ha! Just saw this on FB right now. Timely!


    Too true.

    Keep up the good fight pjsoul.

    I get a kick out of all these supposed fiscal conservatives excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted babies. Especially those poorest of states. Makes a ton of sense.
    I'm sure they are extra double excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted black and brown babies
    They ain’t paying for shit. Pro-life until you’re born. They’ll just expect blue states to transfer their wealth and then spend it on tax breaks for the wealthy.
    This is unfortunately true for a large portion of people that are anti-abortion. It’s stupid and mind boggling along with abstinence only sex education. I mean...you have an opportunity to educate and set people down a path that won’t require an abortion...it’s so obvious.
    without that way of doing things , how can they grow the white, stupid and poor population to whip up to vote against self interest
    True. I guess it’s the same as why the democrats keep promoting a welfare state that keeps people in need of the government. Continue using to create voters generation after generations.  All about power instead of solving problems

    So, you see the deliberate disenfranchisement and under-education promulgated by the right to be the moral and practical equivalent of the social safety net of the left?
     
    I see the social safety net of the left resulting in disenfranchisement and under-education. I am only assuming it’s on purpose for the votes to keep rolling in.  And it was in response to someone saying the right wants to stop abortion so there are more uneducated people to vote for them. ;)
    I know what it was in response to. What is your evidence that the social safety net leads to disenfranchisement and under-education? 
     
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,838
    mickeyrat said:
    dignin said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Ha! Just saw this on FB right now. Timely!


    Too true.

    Keep up the good fight pjsoul.

    I get a kick out of all these supposed fiscal conservatives excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted babies. Especially those poorest of states. Makes a ton of sense.
    I'm sure they are extra double excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted black and brown babies
    They ain’t paying for shit. Pro-life until you’re born. They’ll just expect blue states to transfer their wealth and then spend it on tax breaks for the wealthy.
    This is unfortunately true for a large portion of people that are anti-abortion. It’s stupid and mind boggling along with abstinence only sex education. I mean...you have an opportunity to educate and set people down a path that won’t require an abortion...it’s so obvious.
    without that way of doing things , how can they grow the white, stupid and poor population to whip up to vote against self interest
    True. I guess it’s the same as why the democrats keep promoting a welfare state that keeps people in need of the government. Continue using to create voters generation after generations.  All about power instead of solving problems

    So, you see the deliberate disenfranchisement and under-education promulgated by the right to be the moral and practical equivalent of the social safety net of the left?
     
    I see the social safety net of the left resulting in disenfranchisement and under-education. I am only assuming it’s on purpose for the votes to keep rolling in.  And it was in response to someone saying the right wants to stop abortion so there are more uneducated people to vote for them. ;)
    I know what it was in response to. What is your evidence that the social safety net leads to disenfranchisement and under-education? 
     
    You are getting off topic here. ;) I know I brought it up first, but this really isn’t the thread for it. 

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  • drakeheuer14
    drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,620
    So a couple of people answered. But again - if an expecting mother is assualted and loses her baby...when/should the assaulter be charged with murder? 

    Cause my opinion is, even though I’m against abortion in all cases except rape, incest (isn’t this just rape most of the time?), and Mother’s life in danger....I would think the legal definition of this (hopefully based off of science and not politics) is where the line should be drawn on abortion.  

    I wish there were no abortions. But until the work is out in on the front end to stop the need (for the most part) and since it’s been decided by law already with no change as to why it should be challenged....no new information.... then it seems to me we should be allowing science to tell us where the line is. And science should be the only ones to move that line. 

    Its disturbing to me the way some talk about it though.  In an effort to support women they are degrading human life in my opinion. There is no need to be so brash about it. Abortion shouldn’t be the a decision that is the last option.  It’s pretty sad really, imo, because there are so many things that can be done to prevent the need at all.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,838
    So a couple of people answered. But again - if an expecting mother is assualted and loses her baby...when/should the assaulter be charged with murder? 

    Cause my opinion is, even though I’m against abortion in all cases except rape, incest (isn’t this just rape most of the time?), and Mother’s life in danger....I would think the legal definition of this (hopefully based off of science and not politics) is where the line should be drawn on abortion.  

    I wish there were no abortions. But until the work is out in on the front end to stop the need (for the most part) and since it’s been decided by law already with no change as to why it should be challenged....no new information.... then it seems to me we should be allowing science to tell us where the line is. And science should be the only ones to move that line. 

    Its disturbing to me the way some talk about it though.  In an effort to support women they are degrading human life in my opinion. There is no need to be so brash about it. Abortion shouldn’t be the a decision that is the last option.  It’s pretty sad really, imo, because there are so many things that can be done to prevent the need at all.
    Great post
    Except of course my typing on my iPhone sucks and so I make no sense sometimes ;)
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mickeyrat said:
    dignin said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Ha! Just saw this on FB right now. Timely!


    Too true.

    Keep up the good fight pjsoul.

    I get a kick out of all these supposed fiscal conservatives excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted babies. Especially those poorest of states. Makes a ton of sense.
    I'm sure they are extra double excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted black and brown babies
    They ain’t paying for shit. Pro-life until you’re born. They’ll just expect blue states to transfer their wealth and then spend it on tax breaks for the wealthy.
    This is unfortunately true for a large portion of people that are anti-abortion. It’s stupid and mind boggling along with abstinence only sex education. I mean...you have an opportunity to educate and set people down a path that won’t require an abortion...it’s so obvious.
    without that way of doing things , how can they grow the white, stupid and poor population to whip up to vote against self interest
    True. I guess it’s the same as why the democrats keep promoting a welfare state that keeps people in need of the government. Continue using to create voters generation after generations.  All about power instead of solving problems

    So, you see the deliberate disenfranchisement and under-education promulgated by the right to be the moral and practical equivalent of the social safety net of the left?
     
    I see the social safety net of the left resulting in disenfranchisement and under-education. I am only assuming it’s on purpose for the votes to keep rolling in.  And it was in response to someone saying the right wants to stop abortion so there are more uneducated people to vote for them. ;)
    I know what it was in response to. What is your evidence that the social safety net leads to disenfranchisement and under-education? 
     
    You are getting off topic here. ;) I know I brought it up first, but this really isn’t the thread for it. 

    Completely on topic. If you make a claim you should be able to back it up.

    It's the left who typically wants to fund schools properly and have everyone get a good education. It's the right who typically wants to cut school funds. So your claim is complete BS.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,838
    dignin said:
    mickeyrat said:
    dignin said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Ha! Just saw this on FB right now. Timely!


    Too true.

    Keep up the good fight pjsoul.

    I get a kick out of all these supposed fiscal conservatives excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted babies. Especially those poorest of states. Makes a ton of sense.
    I'm sure they are extra double excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted black and brown babies
    They ain’t paying for shit. Pro-life until you’re born. They’ll just expect blue states to transfer their wealth and then spend it on tax breaks for the wealthy.
    This is unfortunately true for a large portion of people that are anti-abortion. It’s stupid and mind boggling along with abstinence only sex education. I mean...you have an opportunity to educate and set people down a path that won’t require an abortion...it’s so obvious.
    without that way of doing things , how can they grow the white, stupid and poor population to whip up to vote against self interest
    True. I guess it’s the same as why the democrats keep promoting a welfare state that keeps people in need of the government. Continue using to create voters generation after generations.  All about power instead of solving problems

    So, you see the deliberate disenfranchisement and under-education promulgated by the right to be the moral and practical equivalent of the social safety net of the left?
     
    I see the social safety net of the left resulting in disenfranchisement and under-education. I am only assuming it’s on purpose for the votes to keep rolling in.  And it was in response to someone saying the right wants to stop abortion so there are more uneducated people to vote for them. ;)
    I know what it was in response to. What is your evidence that the social safety net leads to disenfranchisement and under-education? 
     
    You are getting off topic here. ;) I know I brought it up first, but this really isn’t the thread for it. 

    Completely on topic. If you make a claim you should be able to back it up.

    It's the left who typically wants to fund schools properly and have everyone get a good education. It's the right who typically wants to cut school funds. So your claim is complete BS.
    Here you are again huh? And it’s not on topic. And I admitted I took us off topic. So unsure what the fuck your point is other than digin being digin.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,431
    dignin said:
    mickeyrat said:
    dignin said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Ha! Just saw this on FB right now. Timely!


    Too true.

    Keep up the good fight pjsoul.

    I get a kick out of all these supposed fiscal conservatives excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted babies. Especially those poorest of states. Makes a ton of sense.
    I'm sure they are extra double excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted black and brown babies
    They ain’t paying for shit. Pro-life until you’re born. They’ll just expect blue states to transfer their wealth and then spend it on tax breaks for the wealthy.
    This is unfortunately true for a large portion of people that are anti-abortion. It’s stupid and mind boggling along with abstinence only sex education. I mean...you have an opportunity to educate and set people down a path that won’t require an abortion...it’s so obvious.
    without that way of doing things , how can they grow the white, stupid and poor population to whip up to vote against self interest
    True. I guess it’s the same as why the democrats keep promoting a welfare state that keeps people in need of the government. Continue using to create voters generation after generations.  All about power instead of solving problems

    So, you see the deliberate disenfranchisement and under-education promulgated by the right to be the moral and practical equivalent of the social safety net of the left?
     
    I see the social safety net of the left resulting in disenfranchisement and under-education. I am only assuming it’s on purpose for the votes to keep rolling in.  And it was in response to someone saying the right wants to stop abortion so there are more uneducated people to vote for them. ;)
    I know what it was in response to. What is your evidence that the social safety net leads to disenfranchisement and under-education? 
     
    You are getting off topic here. ;) I know I brought it up first, but this really isn’t the thread for it. 

    Completely on topic. If you make a claim you should be able to back it up.

    It's the left who typically wants to fund schools properly and have everyone get a good education. It's the right who typically wants to cut school funds. So your claim is complete BS.
    The right doesn't  want to fund public education  as whole. They want to cut funding for vets. They want to force people to have children they cant support but dont want to offer support for those children. 
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    dignin said:
    mickeyrat said:
    dignin said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Ha! Just saw this on FB right now. Timely!


    Too true.

    Keep up the good fight pjsoul.

    I get a kick out of all these supposed fiscal conservatives excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted babies. Especially those poorest of states. Makes a ton of sense.
    I'm sure they are extra double excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted black and brown babies
    They ain’t paying for shit. Pro-life until you’re born. They’ll just expect blue states to transfer their wealth and then spend it on tax breaks for the wealthy.
    This is unfortunately true for a large portion of people that are anti-abortion. It’s stupid and mind boggling along with abstinence only sex education. I mean...you have an opportunity to educate and set people down a path that won’t require an abortion...it’s so obvious.
    without that way of doing things , how can they grow the white, stupid and poor population to whip up to vote against self interest
    True. I guess it’s the same as why the democrats keep promoting a welfare state that keeps people in need of the government. Continue using to create voters generation after generations.  All about power instead of solving problems

    So, you see the deliberate disenfranchisement and under-education promulgated by the right to be the moral and practical equivalent of the social safety net of the left?
     
    I see the social safety net of the left resulting in disenfranchisement and under-education. I am only assuming it’s on purpose for the votes to keep rolling in.  And it was in response to someone saying the right wants to stop abortion so there are more uneducated people to vote for them. ;)
    I know what it was in response to. What is your evidence that the social safety net leads to disenfranchisement and under-education? 
     
    You are getting off topic here. ;) I know I brought it up first, but this really isn’t the thread for it. 

    Completely on topic. If you make a claim you should be able to back it up.

    It's the left who typically wants to fund schools properly and have everyone get a good education. It's the right who typically wants to cut school funds. So your claim is complete BS.
    Here you are again huh? And it’s not on topic. And I admitted I took us off topic. So unsure what the fuck your point is other than digin being digin.
    Cant answer the question I guess then. Always about the poster, not the topic. Why is that I wonder? 

    Care to answer the question? I would like to here it.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    dignin said:
    mickeyrat said:
    dignin said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Ha! Just saw this on FB right now. Timely!


    Too true.

    Keep up the good fight pjsoul.

    I get a kick out of all these supposed fiscal conservatives excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted babies. Especially those poorest of states. Makes a ton of sense.
    I'm sure they are extra double excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted black and brown babies
    They ain’t paying for shit. Pro-life until you’re born. They’ll just expect blue states to transfer their wealth and then spend it on tax breaks for the wealthy.
    This is unfortunately true for a large portion of people that are anti-abortion. It’s stupid and mind boggling along with abstinence only sex education. I mean...you have an opportunity to educate and set people down a path that won’t require an abortion...it’s so obvious.
    without that way of doing things , how can they grow the white, stupid and poor population to whip up to vote against self interest
    True. I guess it’s the same as why the democrats keep promoting a welfare state that keeps people in need of the government. Continue using to create voters generation after generations.  All about power instead of solving problems

    So, you see the deliberate disenfranchisement and under-education promulgated by the right to be the moral and practical equivalent of the social safety net of the left?
     
    I see the social safety net of the left resulting in disenfranchisement and under-education. I am only assuming it’s on purpose for the votes to keep rolling in.  And it was in response to someone saying the right wants to stop abortion so there are more uneducated people to vote for them. ;)
    I know what it was in response to. What is your evidence that the social safety net leads to disenfranchisement and under-education? 
     
    You are getting off topic here. ;) I know I brought it up first, but this really isn’t the thread for it. 

    Completely on topic. If you make a claim you should be able to back it up.

    It's the left who typically wants to fund schools properly and have everyone get a good education. It's the right who typically wants to cut school funds. So your claim is complete BS.
    The right doesn't  want to fund public education  as whole. They want to cut funding for vets. They want to force people to have children they cant support but dont want to offer support for those children. 
    This is the point, which apparently is off topic because it maybe makes conservatives uncomfortable because there's no way to reasonably defend it.
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    edited May 2019
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    mickeyrat said:
    dignin said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Ha! Just saw this on FB right now. Timely!


    Too true.

    Keep up the good fight pjsoul.

    I get a kick out of all these supposed fiscal conservatives excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted babies. Especially those poorest of states. Makes a ton of sense.
    I'm sure they are extra double excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted black and brown babies
    They ain’t paying for shit. Pro-life until you’re born. They’ll just expect blue states to transfer their wealth and then spend it on tax breaks for the wealthy.
    This is unfortunately true for a large portion of people that are anti-abortion. It’s stupid and mind boggling along with abstinence only sex education. I mean...you have an opportunity to educate and set people down a path that won’t require an abortion...it’s so obvious.
    without that way of doing things , how can they grow the white, stupid and poor population to whip up to vote against self interest
    True. I guess it’s the same as why the democrats keep promoting a welfare state that keeps people in need of the government. Continue using to create voters generation after generations.  All about power instead of solving problems

    So, you see the deliberate disenfranchisement and under-education promulgated by the right to be the moral and practical equivalent of the social safety net of the left?
     
    I see the social safety net of the left resulting in disenfranchisement and under-education. I am only assuming it’s on purpose for the votes to keep rolling in.  And it was in response to someone saying the right wants to stop abortion so there are more uneducated people to vote for them. ;)
    I know what it was in response to. What is your evidence that the social safety net leads to disenfranchisement and under-education? 
     
    You are getting off topic here. ;) I know I brought it up first, but this really isn’t the thread for it. 

    Completely on topic. If you make a claim you should be able to back it up.

    It's the left who typically wants to fund schools properly and have everyone get a good education. It's the right who typically wants to cut school funds. So your claim is complete BS.
    The right doesn't  want to fund public education  as whole. They want to cut funding for vets. They want to force people to have children they cant support but dont want to offer support for those children. 
    This is the point, which apparently is off topic because it maybe makes conservatives uncomfortable because there's no way to reasonably defend it.
    The Republican Party's stance on abortion always brings to my mind this hypothetical conversation....

    Young mother: I'm pregnant but have no means of raising a child. Can I get an abortion?
    Republican Asshole: Nooooo!!!!!!! You're not going to kill a BABY. What type of monster are you?
    Young Mother: Okay, okay. I'm sorry. I'll have the child. But can I have some money to help me raise the child?
    Republican Asshole: Oh you're going to have to talk to the Democrats about that one. I want the baby born, but it could die a week later for all I care. 
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,838
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    mickeyrat said:
    dignin said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Ha! Just saw this on FB right now. Timely!


    Too true.

    Keep up the good fight pjsoul.

    I get a kick out of all these supposed fiscal conservatives excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted babies. Especially those poorest of states. Makes a ton of sense.
    I'm sure they are extra double excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted black and brown babies
    They ain’t paying for shit. Pro-life until you’re born. They’ll just expect blue states to transfer their wealth and then spend it on tax breaks for the wealthy.
    This is unfortunately true for a large portion of people that are anti-abortion. It’s stupid and mind boggling along with abstinence only sex education. I mean...you have an opportunity to educate and set people down a path that won’t require an abortion...it’s so obvious.
    without that way of doing things , how can they grow the white, stupid and poor population to whip up to vote against self interest
    True. I guess it’s the same as why the democrats keep promoting a welfare state that keeps people in need of the government. Continue using to create voters generation after generations.  All about power instead of solving problems

    So, you see the deliberate disenfranchisement and under-education promulgated by the right to be the moral and practical equivalent of the social safety net of the left?
     
    I see the social safety net of the left resulting in disenfranchisement and under-education. I am only assuming it’s on purpose for the votes to keep rolling in.  And it was in response to someone saying the right wants to stop abortion so there are more uneducated people to vote for them. ;)
    I know what it was in response to. What is your evidence that the social safety net leads to disenfranchisement and under-education? 
     
    You are getting off topic here. ;) I know I brought it up first, but this really isn’t the thread for it. 

    Completely on topic. If you make a claim you should be able to back it up.

    It's the left who typically wants to fund schools properly and have everyone get a good education. It's the right who typically wants to cut school funds. So your claim is complete BS.
    Here you are again huh? And it’s not on topic. And I admitted I took us off topic. So unsure what the fuck your point is other than digin being digin.
    Cant answer the question I guess then. Always about the poster, not the topic. Why is that I wonder? 

    Care to answer the question? I would like to here it.
    Not here. You want a pm? I don’t disagree that the right has been awful at ensuring people don’t need welfare. But again it’s not the topic here.

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,838
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    mickeyrat said:
    dignin said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Ha! Just saw this on FB right now. Timely!


    Too true.

    Keep up the good fight pjsoul.

    I get a kick out of all these supposed fiscal conservatives excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted babies. Especially those poorest of states. Makes a ton of sense.
    I'm sure they are extra double excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted black and brown babies
    They ain’t paying for shit. Pro-life until you’re born. They’ll just expect blue states to transfer their wealth and then spend it on tax breaks for the wealthy.
    This is unfortunately true for a large portion of people that are anti-abortion. It’s stupid and mind boggling along with abstinence only sex education. I mean...you have an opportunity to educate and set people down a path that won’t require an abortion...it’s so obvious.
    without that way of doing things , how can they grow the white, stupid and poor population to whip up to vote against self interest
    True. I guess it’s the same as why the democrats keep promoting a welfare state that keeps people in need of the government. Continue using to create voters generation after generations.  All about power instead of solving problems

    So, you see the deliberate disenfranchisement and under-education promulgated by the right to be the moral and practical equivalent of the social safety net of the left?
     
    I see the social safety net of the left resulting in disenfranchisement and under-education. I am only assuming it’s on purpose for the votes to keep rolling in.  And it was in response to someone saying the right wants to stop abortion so there are more uneducated people to vote for them. ;)
    I know what it was in response to. What is your evidence that the social safety net leads to disenfranchisement and under-education? 
     
    You are getting off topic here. ;) I know I brought it up first, but this really isn’t the thread for it. 

    Completely on topic. If you make a claim you should be able to back it up.

    It's the left who typically wants to fund schools properly and have everyone get a good education. It's the right who typically wants to cut school funds. So your claim is complete BS.
    The right doesn't  want to fund public education  as whole. They want to cut funding for vets. They want to force people to have children they cant support but dont want to offer support for those children. 
    This is the point, which apparently is off topic because it maybe makes conservatives uncomfortable because there's no way to reasonably defend it.
    Perhaps you missed my post where I mentioned that the right not doing any of the potential preventative stuff...education, etc.

    But as far as keeping people on welfare to get their vote...different topic.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,838
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    mickeyrat said:
    dignin said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Ha! Just saw this on FB right now. Timely!


    Too true.

    Keep up the good fight pjsoul.

    I get a kick out of all these supposed fiscal conservatives excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted babies. Especially those poorest of states. Makes a ton of sense.
    I'm sure they are extra double excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted black and brown babies
    They ain’t paying for shit. Pro-life until you’re born. They’ll just expect blue states to transfer their wealth and then spend it on tax breaks for the wealthy.
    This is unfortunately true for a large portion of people that are anti-abortion. It’s stupid and mind boggling along with abstinence only sex education. I mean...you have an opportunity to educate and set people down a path that won’t require an abortion...it’s so obvious.
    without that way of doing things , how can they grow the white, stupid and poor population to whip up to vote against self interest
    True. I guess it’s the same as why the democrats keep promoting a welfare state that keeps people in need of the government. Continue using to create voters generation after generations.  All about power instead of solving problems

    So, you see the deliberate disenfranchisement and under-education promulgated by the right to be the moral and practical equivalent of the social safety net of the left?
     
    I see the social safety net of the left resulting in disenfranchisement and under-education. I am only assuming it’s on purpose for the votes to keep rolling in.  And it was in response to someone saying the right wants to stop abortion so there are more uneducated people to vote for them. ;)
    I know what it was in response to. What is your evidence that the social safety net leads to disenfranchisement and under-education? 
     
    You are getting off topic here. ;) I know I brought it up first, but this really isn’t the thread for it. 

    Completely on topic. If you make a claim you should be able to back it up.

    It's the left who typically wants to fund schools properly and have everyone get a good education. It's the right who typically wants to cut school funds. So your claim is complete BS.
    The right doesn't  want to fund public education  as whole. They want to cut funding for vets. They want to force people to have children they cant support but dont want to offer support for those children. 
    This is the point, which apparently is off topic because it maybe makes conservatives uncomfortable because there's no way to reasonably defend it.
    The Republican Party's stance on abortion always brings to my mind this hypothetical conversation....

    Young mother: I'm pregnant but have no means of raising a child. Can I get an abortion?
    Republican Asshole: Nooooo!!!!!!! You're not going to kill a BABY. What type of monster are you?
    Young Mother: Okay, okay. I'm sorry. I'll have the child. But can I have some money to help me raise the child?
    Republican Asshole: Oh you're going to have to talk to the Democrats about that one. I want the baby born, but it could die a week later for all I care. 
    This is some, perhaps s majority, but it is not all of people that are against abortion 
     Nice touch with the “asshole” part. Effective. Wonder what could be added to the young mother or young father? 

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    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    mickeyrat said:
    dignin said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Ha! Just saw this on FB right now. Timely!


    Too true.

    Keep up the good fight pjsoul.

    I get a kick out of all these supposed fiscal conservatives excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted babies. Especially those poorest of states. Makes a ton of sense.
    I'm sure they are extra double excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted black and brown babies
    They ain’t paying for shit. Pro-life until you’re born. They’ll just expect blue states to transfer their wealth and then spend it on tax breaks for the wealthy.
    This is unfortunately true for a large portion of people that are anti-abortion. It’s stupid and mind boggling along with abstinence only sex education. I mean...you have an opportunity to educate and set people down a path that won’t require an abortion...it’s so obvious.
    without that way of doing things , how can they grow the white, stupid and poor population to whip up to vote against self interest
    True. I guess it’s the same as why the democrats keep promoting a welfare state that keeps people in need of the government. Continue using to create voters generation after generations.  All about power instead of solving problems

    So, you see the deliberate disenfranchisement and under-education promulgated by the right to be the moral and practical equivalent of the social safety net of the left?
     
    I see the social safety net of the left resulting in disenfranchisement and under-education. I am only assuming it’s on purpose for the votes to keep rolling in.  And it was in response to someone saying the right wants to stop abortion so there are more uneducated people to vote for them. ;)
    I know what it was in response to. What is your evidence that the social safety net leads to disenfranchisement and under-education? 
     
    You are getting off topic here. ;) I know I brought it up first, but this really isn’t the thread for it. 

    Completely on topic. If you make a claim you should be able to back it up.

    It's the left who typically wants to fund schools properly and have everyone get a good education. It's the right who typically wants to cut school funds. So your claim is complete BS.
    The right doesn't  want to fund public education  as whole. They want to cut funding for vets. They want to force people to have children they cant support but dont want to offer support for those children. 
    This is the point, which apparently is off topic because it maybe makes conservatives uncomfortable because there's no way to reasonably defend it.
    The Republican Party's stance on abortion always brings to my mind this hypothetical conversation....

    Young mother: I'm pregnant but have no means of raising a child. Can I get an abortion?
    Republican Asshole: Nooooo!!!!!!! You're not going to kill a BABY. What type of monster are you?
    Young Mother: Okay, okay. I'm sorry. I'll have the child. But can I have some money to help me raise the child?
    Republican Asshole: Oh you're going to have to talk to the Democrats about that one. I want the baby born, but it could die a week later for all I care. 
    This is some, perhaps s majority, but it is not all of people that are against abortion 
     Nice touch with the “asshole” part. Effective. Wonder what could be added to the young mother or young father? 

    Oh don't be so sensitive. The character in this little four-line play is an asshole that takes the high moral ground of "how dare you kill a baby" while not really giving a fuck about underprivileged babies. As you said, not all, but perhaps the majority of anti-abortion people are like this. 
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  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
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    Mabey in very rare circumstances.
    If there is a heartbeat - No!
    Over 60 million abortions in the Unite States since 1973, who knows what that number is worldwide,  Holy moly that's a lot of lives that never had a chance.
    Promote disipline, & responsibility.
    Have control over thy pecker.
    If a mother cannot support the baby herself encourage adoption whenever possible.
    If a human embryo is not considered a life in the womb, what is it then a pimple?
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    There is a big difference between saving a life and supporting one. I support the improvement of both, but I think one clearly takes the cake of importance. 
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,379
    RYME said:
    Mabey in very rare circumstances.
    If there is a heartbeat - No!
    Over 60 million abortions in the Unite States since 1973, who knows what that number is worldwide,  Holy moly that's a lot of lives that never had a chance.
    Promote disipline, & responsibility.
    Have control over thy pecker.
    If a mother cannot support the baby herself encourage adoption whenever possible.
    If its not a life in the womb, what is it then a pimple?
    You know, I think you're right, but we need to take it further. I look at the men who swear celibacy and the women who die with unfertilized eggs left inside them, and I think it's just a waste. We should have masturbation farms for men and fertilization farms for women, to prevent the tragedy that is lives that never had a chance.

    As for the life in the womb - you're right, it is life, and I assume your purpose in parroting the "but it's alive!" message is to brutalize the act of abortion. I'll play. I believe in a woman's right to abort, kill, terminate, murder (pick a name, I don't care) a fetus if she so desires because it is her fucking fetus and not yours or mine.

    Finally, I'm embarrassed to see you even suggest that 'peckers' have shown any ability to be controlled, or have acted with any discipline or sense of responsibility. Do your eyes and ears not function? 
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  • drakeheuer14
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    It took two to make that fetus. 
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  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
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    It took two to make that fetus. 
    Yup it takes 2 to tango.
    I tapped the quote button on drakeheuer14 in  agreeance.
    But to (benjs) masturbation farms hugh??  nice facetiousness.
    It's not a developing embryo until it is fertilized.  Unbelievable responce (benjs)
    I know benjs,  expecting guys and gals to have more self-contro if they don't want babies right now is too much to ask.