Kansas Supreme Court: Abortion now a constitutional right in state

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Bentleyspop said:

dignin said:

PJ_Soul said:

Ha! Just saw this on FB right now. Timely!

Too true.

Keep up the good fight pjsoul.

I get a kick out of all these supposed fiscal conservatives excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted babies. Especially those poorest of states. Makes a ton of sense.

I'm sure they are extra double excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted black and brown babies

They ain’t paying for shit. Pro-life until you’re born. They’ll just expect blue states to transfer their wealth and then spend it on tax breaks for the wealthy.

This is unfortunately true for a large portion of people that are anti-abortion. It’s stupid and mind boggling along with abstinence only sex education. I mean...you have an opportunity to educate and set people down a path that won’t require an abortion...it’s so obvious.

There isn't any setting rape and incest victims down that path, but the laws are making abortions of pregnancies resulting from rape and incest illegal too.

BTW, IMO it's not pro-abortion and anti-abortion. Those terms seems misleading to me, particularly because nobody is pro-abortion. It's pro-choice and anti-choice.

Oh and honestly I don’t care what label you want to call it. I didn’t fix it when you use your terms, don’t pretend like yours are the only right ones. That’s fucking narcissistic. 

What in the hell are you talking about?? I said IN MY OPINION.... that those terms seem misleading TO ME.... How in the fuck did I just get accused of pretending like mine are the only right ones and of being narcissistic using that kind of language?? Are you just looking for reasons to trash me or what?

 Not not looking, just reading.

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Bentleyspop said:

dignin said:

PJ_Soul said:

Ha! Just saw this on FB right now. Timely!

Too true.

Keep up the good fight pjsoul.

I get a kick out of all these supposed fiscal conservatives excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted babies. Especially those poorest of states. Makes a ton of sense.

I'm sure they are extra double excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted black and brown babies

They ain’t paying for shit. Pro-life until you’re born. They’ll just expect blue states to transfer their wealth and then spend it on tax breaks for the wealthy.

This is unfortunately true for a large portion of people that are anti-abortion. It’s stupid and mind boggling along with abstinence only sex education. I mean...you have an opportunity to educate and set people down a path that won’t require an abortion...it’s so obvious.

There isn't any setting rape and incest victims down that path, but the laws are making abortions of pregnancies resulting from rape and incest illegal too.

BTW, IMO it's not pro-abortion and anti-abortion. Those terms seems misleading to me, particularly because nobody is pro-abortion. It's pro-choice and anti-choice.

Oh and honestly I don’t care what label you want to call it. I didn’t fix it when you use your terms, don’t pretend like yours are the only right ones. That’s fucking narcissistic. 

What in the hell are you talking about?? I said IN MY OPINION.... that those terms seem misleading TO ME.... How in the fuck did I just get accused of pretending like mine are the only right ones and of being narcissistic using that kind of language?? Are you just looking for reasons to trash me or what?

 Not not looking, just reading.

cincybearcat said:

dignin said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Bentleyspop said:

dignin said:

PJ_Soul said:

Ha! Just saw this on FB right now. Timely!

Too true.

Keep up the good fight pjsoul.

I get a kick out of all these supposed fiscal conservatives excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted babies. Especially those poorest of states. Makes a ton of sense.

I'm sure they are extra double excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted black and brown babies

They ain’t paying for shit. Pro-life until you’re born. They’ll just expect blue states to transfer their wealth and then spend it on tax breaks for the wealthy.

This is unfortunately true for a large portion of people that are anti-abortion. It’s stupid and mind boggling along with abstinence only sex education. I mean...you have an opportunity to educate and set people down a path that won’t require an abortion...it’s so obvious.

There isn't any setting rape and incest victims down that path, but the laws are making abortions of pregnancies resulting from rape and incest illegal too.

BTW, IMO it's not pro-abortion and anti-abortion. Those terms seems misleading to me, particularly because nobody is pro-abortion. It's pro-choice and anti-choice.

Oh and honestly I don’t care what label you want to call it. I didn’t fix it when you use your terms, don’t pretend like yours are the only right ones. That’s fucking narcissistic. 

What in the hell are you talking about?? I said IN MY OPINION.... that those terms seem misleading TO ME.... How in the fuck did I just get accused of pretending like mine are the only right ones and of being narcissistic using that kind of language?? Are you just looking for reasons to trash me or what?

 Not not looking, just reading.

Then read better.

Thanks. Always jumping in. Never anything to say

Alabama's Abortion Ban Isn't About 'The Sanctity of Life.' Look at How the State Treats Its People.

There's nothing sacred about shorter, more dangerous lives.


But the real peach there is towards the end: every life is precious, and every life is a gift from God. That sounds nice, but it is not reflected in basically anything else Alabama does. The state ranks 49th nationally in terms of life expectancy: residents' lives are 3.5 years shorter than the national average. Alabama has the fourth-worst infant mortality rate in America, at 7.4 deaths per 1,000 live births. That makes a baby born in Alabama more likely to die than one that's born in Russia, or Qatar, or the Cayman Islands. (In fairness, the United States' overall record on this is abysmal: in the richest, most powerful country in the history of the world, 5.8 of every 1,000 infants born alive will soon die.) Life might be precious in the womb, but Alabama has not devoted much time or energy to protecting it once it's out in the world.

This extends elsewhere. Alabama had near-zero regulations on childcare services up until last year, when Ivey signed a "compromise" bill that, according to AL.com, "adds some regulations for child care centers but stops short of requiring licensing and inspection of all centers." The state still allows "church-affiliated" childcare centers to claim exemption from licensing and inspection requirements, because what could go wrong? Nearly half of the state's 1,900 care centers claim the exemption. Opponents of regulating church-affiliated outfits said it would "infringe on religious freedoms." The move was prompted by a series of child injuries and deaths at unlicensed centers, including a 5-year-old boy in Mobile who was left in a day care van by a driver who had a criminal record.

Alabama also isn't known for affordable childcare, and while married couples were paying about 7 percent of median income towards it, single mothers were paying 30 percent. This is a crippling expense considering experts recommend spending 10 percent or less. Maybe the Alabama legislature could devote some time and energy to any of these issues. In a recent U.S. News and World Report survey, Alabama ranked 49th out of 50 in terms of overall outcomes for its citizens. It was 46th in healthcare, 50th in education, 45th on the economy, 45th in "opportunity," and 45th in crime and corrections.

In fact, Alabama has one of the most barbaric prison systems in the country: a Trump Justice Department investigation found the facilities were overcrowded (at 180 percent of capacity), understaffed, and had some of the highest rates of rape and homicide. In one week in one Alabama prison in September 2017, there were four stabbings, five beatings, three sexual assaults, an overdose, and an arson where a prisoner's bed was set on fire while he slept. In a separate case from another institution, a prisoner had been dead for so long that by the time guards found him lying face down, his face was flattened. Is this how you treat children of God, whose lives are sacred?
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a27491521/alabama-abortion-ban-sanctity-of-life-infant-mortality-life-expectancy/

dignin said:

cincybearcat said:

dignin said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Bentleyspop said:

dignin said:

PJ_Soul said:

Ha! Just saw this on FB right now. Timely!

Too true.

Keep up the good fight pjsoul.

I get a kick out of all these supposed fiscal conservatives excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted babies. Especially those poorest of states. Makes a ton of sense.

I'm sure they are extra double excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted black and brown babies

They ain’t paying for shit. Pro-life until you’re born. They’ll just expect blue states to transfer their wealth and then spend it on tax breaks for the wealthy.

This is unfortunately true for a large portion of people that are anti-abortion. It’s stupid and mind boggling along with abstinence only sex education. I mean...you have an opportunity to educate and set people down a path that won’t require an abortion...it’s so obvious.

There isn't any setting rape and incest victims down that path, but the laws are making abortions of pregnancies resulting from rape and incest illegal too.

BTW, IMO it's not pro-abortion and anti-abortion. Those terms seems misleading to me, particularly because nobody is pro-abortion. It's pro-choice and anti-choice.

Oh and honestly I don’t care what label you want to call it. I didn’t fix it when you use your terms, don’t pretend like yours are the only right ones. That’s fucking narcissistic. 

What in the hell are you talking about?? I said IN MY OPINION.... that those terms seem misleading TO ME.... How in the fuck did I just get accused of pretending like mine are the only right ones and of being narcissistic using that kind of language?? Are you just looking for reasons to trash me or what?

 Not not looking, just reading.

Then read better.

Thanks. Always jumping in. Never anything to say

You're welcome.

I feel like I said something, but maybe you had trouble reading it.

Alabama's Abortion Ban Isn't About 'The Sanctity of Life.' Look at How the State Treats Its People.

There's nothing sacred about shorter, more dangerous lives.


But the real peach there is towards the end: every life is precious, and every life is a gift from God. That sounds nice, but it is not reflected in basically anything else Alabama does. The state ranks 49th nationally in terms of life expectancy: residents' lives are 3.5 years shorter than the national average. Alabama has the fourth-worst infant mortality rate in America, at 7.4 deaths per 1,000 live births. That makes a baby born in Alabama more likely to die than one that's born in Russia, or Qatar, or the Cayman Islands. (In fairness, the United States' overall record on this is abysmal: in the richest, most powerful country in the history of the world, 5.8 of every 1,000 infants born alive will soon die.) Life might be precious in the womb, but Alabama has not devoted much time or energy to protecting it once it's out in the world.

This extends elsewhere. Alabama had near-zero regulations on childcare services up until last year, when Ivey signed a "compromise" bill that, according to AL.com, "adds some regulations for child care centers but stops short of requiring licensing and inspection of all centers." The state still allows "church-affiliated" childcare centers to claim exemption from licensing and inspection requirements, because what could go wrong? Nearly half of the state's 1,900 care centers claim the exemption. Opponents of regulating church-affiliated outfits said it would "infringe on religious freedoms." The move was prompted by a series of child injuries and deaths at unlicensed centers, including a 5-year-old boy in Mobile who was left in a day care van by a driver who had a criminal record.

Alabama also isn't known for affordable childcare, and while married couples were paying about 7 percent of median income towards it, single mothers were paying 30 percent. This is a crippling expense considering experts recommend spending 10 percent or less. Maybe the Alabama legislature could devote some time and energy to any of these issues. In a recent U.S. News and World Report survey, Alabama ranked 49th out of 50 in terms of overall outcomes for its citizens. It was 46th in healthcare, 50th in education, 45th on the economy, 45th in "opportunity," and 45th in crime and corrections.

In fact, Alabama has one of the most barbaric prison systems in the country: a Trump Justice Department investigation found the facilities were overcrowded (at 180 percent of capacity), understaffed, and had some of the highest rates of rape and homicide. In one week in one Alabama prison in September 2017, there were four stabbings, five beatings, three sexual assaults, an overdose, and an arson where a prisoner's bed was set on fire while he slept. In a separate case from another institution, a prisoner had been dead for so long that by the time guards found him lying face down, his face was flattened. Is this how you treat children of God, whose lives are sacred?
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a27491521/alabama-abortion-ban-sanctity-of-life-infant-mortality-life-expectancy/

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Bentleyspop said:

dignin said:

PJ_Soul said:

Ha! Just saw this on FB right now. Timely!

Too true.

Keep up the good fight pjsoul.

I get a kick out of all these supposed fiscal conservatives excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted babies. Especially those poorest of states. Makes a ton of sense.

I'm sure they are extra double excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted black and brown babies

They ain’t paying for shit. Pro-life until you’re born. They’ll just expect blue states to transfer their wealth and then spend it on tax breaks for the wealthy.

This is unfortunately true for a large portion of people that are anti-abortion. It’s stupid and mind boggling along with abstinence only sex education. I mean...you have an opportunity to educate and set people down a path that won’t require an abortion...it’s so obvious.

mickeyrat said:

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Bentleyspop said:

dignin said:

PJ_Soul said:

Ha! Just saw this on FB right now. Timely!

Too true.

Keep up the good fight pjsoul.

I get a kick out of all these supposed fiscal conservatives excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted babies. Especially those poorest of states. Makes a ton of sense.

I'm sure they are extra double excited to pay to take care of all those unwanted black and brown babies

They ain’t paying for shit. Pro-life until you’re born. They’ll just expect blue states to transfer their wealth and then spend it on tax breaks for the wealthy.

This is unfortunately true for a large portion of people that are anti-abortion. It’s stupid and mind boggling along with abstinence only sex education. I mean...you have an opportunity to educate and set people down a path that won’t require an abortion...it’s so obvious.

without that way of doing things , how can they grow the white, stupid and poor population to whip up to vote against self interest

Halifax2TheMax said:

j1kotwic said:

The baby is trying to be born and live. The baby doesn't give a shit what the band thinks or what anyone else thinks on this forum. 

Are deliverable babies capable of thought? Does the baby ask itself, “sure hope I don’t get aborted?” At what point, within the womb, do babies not care about a band’s forum?