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HughFreakingDillon said:I just saw there is a senator from rhode island with the last name Whitehouse. Seriously, this guy needs to run for President. I need to live in a world where we get to refer to POTUS for 4 years as President Whitehouse.
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haha, KART MARIO!!!Spiritual_Chaos said:HughFreakingDillon said:I just saw there is a senator from rhode island with the last name Whitehouse. Seriously, this guy needs to run for President. I need to live in a world where we get to refer to POTUS for 4 years as President Whitehouse.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
the herd immunity argument was what Pete's campaign tried to nuance out, but how do you manage that? How do you decide that the herd level is too low and that now it's mandatory?oftenreading said:
Do you think “keeping out of the public sphere” will go over bettermrussel1 said:
There's a delicate balance of liberty in this country. I agree with what you're saying, but forced vaccinations won't come off well. Keep them out of the public sphere then, or let them relocate to an isolated area.oftenreading said:mrussel1 said:I'm glad Pete clarified, but it was as silly gaffe to start. I can't believe in 2020 we are arguing about vaccines. It's outrageous and akin to discussions of witchcraft 300 years ago. If you don't want to vaccinate your kid, fine, but no public schools.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/441537-buttigieg-campaign-says-he-supports-some-vaccine-exemptions
I don't agree with the "if you don't want to vaccinate your kids, fine....." statement. Even if kids don't go to public school, they still go out and about in the community. Vaccinate everyone unless there is a valid medical reason not to. All of the major faith leaders have confirmed that vaccination is consistent with the tenets of their faith, so there really shouldn't be any religious exemptions, and "'personal choice" just doesn't cut it.
? Because short of incarceration, you can’t keep people out of the pubic sphere.
Herd immunity doesn’t require 100% vaccination, but it does require more than what’s being seen now, with all those religious and personal exemptions.
We don't need to incarcerate them. We can create camps, somewhere on the west coast, with some fences. Think of it as a simple internment. Nothing wrong with that.0 -
Probably better to just vaccinate them, lol.mrussel1 said:
the herd immunity argument was what Pete's campaign tried to nuance out, but how do you manage that? How do you decide that the herd level is too low and that now it's mandatory?oftenreading said:
Do you think “keeping out of the public sphere” will go over bettermrussel1 said:
There's a delicate balance of liberty in this country. I agree with what you're saying, but forced vaccinations won't come off well. Keep them out of the public sphere then, or let them relocate to an isolated area.oftenreading said:mrussel1 said:I'm glad Pete clarified, but it was as silly gaffe to start. I can't believe in 2020 we are arguing about vaccines. It's outrageous and akin to discussions of witchcraft 300 years ago. If you don't want to vaccinate your kid, fine, but no public schools.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/441537-buttigieg-campaign-says-he-supports-some-vaccine-exemptions
I don't agree with the "if you don't want to vaccinate your kids, fine....." statement. Even if kids don't go to public school, they still go out and about in the community. Vaccinate everyone unless there is a valid medical reason not to. All of the major faith leaders have confirmed that vaccination is consistent with the tenets of their faith, so there really shouldn't be any religious exemptions, and "'personal choice" just doesn't cut it.? Because short of incarceration, you can’t keep people out of the pubic sphere.
Herd immunity doesn’t require 100% vaccination, but it does require more than what’s being seen now, with all those religious and personal exemptions.
We don't need to incarcerate them. We can create camps, somewhere on the west coast, with some fences. Think of it as a simple internment. Nothing wrong with that.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Likely not actually that difficult to determine level needed for herd immunity, given the research base in immunology. I believe that data exists.mrussel1 said:
the herd immunity argument was what Pete's campaign tried to nuance out, but how do you manage that? How do you decide that the herd level is too low and that now it's mandatory?oftenreading said:
Do you think “keeping out of the public sphere” will go over bettermrussel1 said:
There's a delicate balance of liberty in this country. I agree with what you're saying, but forced vaccinations won't come off well. Keep them out of the public sphere then, or let them relocate to an isolated area.oftenreading said:mrussel1 said:I'm glad Pete clarified, but it was as silly gaffe to start. I can't believe in 2020 we are arguing about vaccines. It's outrageous and akin to discussions of witchcraft 300 years ago. If you don't want to vaccinate your kid, fine, but no public schools.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/441537-buttigieg-campaign-says-he-supports-some-vaccine-exemptions
I don't agree with the "if you don't want to vaccinate your kids, fine....." statement. Even if kids don't go to public school, they still go out and about in the community. Vaccinate everyone unless there is a valid medical reason not to. All of the major faith leaders have confirmed that vaccination is consistent with the tenets of their faith, so there really shouldn't be any religious exemptions, and "'personal choice" just doesn't cut it.? Because short of incarceration, you can’t keep people out of the pubic sphere.
Herd immunity doesn’t require 100% vaccination, but it does require more than what’s being seen now, with all those religious and personal exemptions.
We don't need to incarcerate them. We can create camps, somewhere on the west coast, with some fences. Think of it as a simple internment. Nothing wrong with that.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
It does, i was listening to an expert on NPR about this the other dayoftenreading said:
Likely not actually that difficult to determine level needed for herd immunity, given the research base in immunology. I believe that data exists.mrussel1 said:
the herd immunity argument was what Pete's campaign tried to nuance out, but how do you manage that? How do you decide that the herd level is too low and that now it's mandatory?oftenreading said:
Do you think “keeping out of the public sphere” will go over bettermrussel1 said:
There's a delicate balance of liberty in this country. I agree with what you're saying, but forced vaccinations won't come off well. Keep them out of the public sphere then, or let them relocate to an isolated area.oftenreading said:mrussel1 said:I'm glad Pete clarified, but it was as silly gaffe to start. I can't believe in 2020 we are arguing about vaccines. It's outrageous and akin to discussions of witchcraft 300 years ago. If you don't want to vaccinate your kid, fine, but no public schools.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/441537-buttigieg-campaign-says-he-supports-some-vaccine-exemptions
I don't agree with the "if you don't want to vaccinate your kids, fine....." statement. Even if kids don't go to public school, they still go out and about in the community. Vaccinate everyone unless there is a valid medical reason not to. All of the major faith leaders have confirmed that vaccination is consistent with the tenets of their faith, so there really shouldn't be any religious exemptions, and "'personal choice" just doesn't cut it.? Because short of incarceration, you can’t keep people out of the pubic sphere.
Herd immunity doesn’t require 100% vaccination, but it does require more than what’s being seen now, with all those religious and personal exemptions.
We don't need to incarcerate them. We can create camps, somewhere on the west coast, with some fences. Think of it as a simple internment. Nothing wrong with that.
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Elitist.my2hands said:
It does, i was listening to an expert on NPR about this the other dayoftenreading said:
Likely not actually that difficult to determine level needed for herd immunity, given the research base in immunology. I believe that data exists.mrussel1 said:
the herd immunity argument was what Pete's campaign tried to nuance out, but how do you manage that? How do you decide that the herd level is too low and that now it's mandatory?oftenreading said:
Do you think “keeping out of the public sphere” will go over bettermrussel1 said:
There's a delicate balance of liberty in this country. I agree with what you're saying, but forced vaccinations won't come off well. Keep them out of the public sphere then, or let them relocate to an isolated area.oftenreading said:mrussel1 said:I'm glad Pete clarified, but it was as silly gaffe to start. I can't believe in 2020 we are arguing about vaccines. It's outrageous and akin to discussions of witchcraft 300 years ago. If you don't want to vaccinate your kid, fine, but no public schools.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/441537-buttigieg-campaign-says-he-supports-some-vaccine-exemptions
I don't agree with the "if you don't want to vaccinate your kids, fine....." statement. Even if kids don't go to public school, they still go out and about in the community. Vaccinate everyone unless there is a valid medical reason not to. All of the major faith leaders have confirmed that vaccination is consistent with the tenets of their faith, so there really shouldn't be any religious exemptions, and "'personal choice" just doesn't cut it.? Because short of incarceration, you can’t keep people out of the pubic sphere.
Herd immunity doesn’t require 100% vaccination, but it does require more than what’s being seen now, with all those religious and personal exemptions.
We don't need to incarcerate them. We can create camps, somewhere on the west coast, with some fences. Think of it as a simple internment. Nothing wrong with that.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
I mean more about the triggering of the law that says "now everyone has to go".oftenreading said:
Elitist.my2hands said:
It does, i was listening to an expert on NPR about this the other dayoftenreading said:
Likely not actually that difficult to determine level needed for herd immunity, given the research base in immunology. I believe that data exists.mrussel1 said:
the herd immunity argument was what Pete's campaign tried to nuance out, but how do you manage that? How do you decide that the herd level is too low and that now it's mandatory?oftenreading said:
Do you think “keeping out of the public sphere” will go over bettermrussel1 said:
There's a delicate balance of liberty in this country. I agree with what you're saying, but forced vaccinations won't come off well. Keep them out of the public sphere then, or let them relocate to an isolated area.oftenreading said:mrussel1 said:I'm glad Pete clarified, but it was as silly gaffe to start. I can't believe in 2020 we are arguing about vaccines. It's outrageous and akin to discussions of witchcraft 300 years ago. If you don't want to vaccinate your kid, fine, but no public schools.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/441537-buttigieg-campaign-says-he-supports-some-vaccine-exemptions
I don't agree with the "if you don't want to vaccinate your kids, fine....." statement. Even if kids don't go to public school, they still go out and about in the community. Vaccinate everyone unless there is a valid medical reason not to. All of the major faith leaders have confirmed that vaccination is consistent with the tenets of their faith, so there really shouldn't be any religious exemptions, and "'personal choice" just doesn't cut it.? Because short of incarceration, you can’t keep people out of the pubic sphere.
Herd immunity doesn’t require 100% vaccination, but it does require more than what’s being seen now, with all those religious and personal exemptions.
We don't need to incarcerate them. We can create camps, somewhere on the west coast, with some fences. Think of it as a simple internment. Nothing wrong with that.
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Pardon? Now I’m confused.mrussel1 said:
I mean more about the triggering of the law that says "now everyone has to go".oftenreading said:
Elitist.my2hands said:
It does, i was listening to an expert on NPR about this the other dayoftenreading said:
Likely not actually that difficult to determine level needed for herd immunity, given the research base in immunology. I believe that data exists.mrussel1 said:
the herd immunity argument was what Pete's campaign tried to nuance out, but how do you manage that? How do you decide that the herd level is too low and that now it's mandatory?oftenreading said:
Do you think “keeping out of the public sphere” will go over bettermrussel1 said:
There's a delicate balance of liberty in this country. I agree with what you're saying, but forced vaccinations won't come off well. Keep them out of the public sphere then, or let them relocate to an isolated area.oftenreading said:mrussel1 said:I'm glad Pete clarified, but it was as silly gaffe to start. I can't believe in 2020 we are arguing about vaccines. It's outrageous and akin to discussions of witchcraft 300 years ago. If you don't want to vaccinate your kid, fine, but no public schools.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/441537-buttigieg-campaign-says-he-supports-some-vaccine-exemptions
I don't agree with the "if you don't want to vaccinate your kids, fine....." statement. Even if kids don't go to public school, they still go out and about in the community. Vaccinate everyone unless there is a valid medical reason not to. All of the major faith leaders have confirmed that vaccination is consistent with the tenets of their faith, so there really shouldn't be any religious exemptions, and "'personal choice" just doesn't cut it.? Because short of incarceration, you can’t keep people out of the pubic sphere.
Herd immunity doesn’t require 100% vaccination, but it does require more than what’s being seen now, with all those religious and personal exemptions.
We don't need to incarcerate them. We can create camps, somewhere on the west coast, with some fences. Think of it as a simple internment. Nothing wrong with that.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
What Pete floated was that there could be a religious exemption unless the herd immunity levels got too low, then it becomes mandatory. I'm saying that's impractical. First there will be court challenges as whether the immunity levels are too low and then who become mandatory and for how long (also prime for legal battle).oftenreading said:
Pardon? Now I’m confused.mrussel1 said:
I mean more about the triggering of the law that says "now everyone has to go".oftenreading said:
Elitist.my2hands said:
It does, i was listening to an expert on NPR about this the other dayoftenreading said:
Likely not actually that difficult to determine level needed for herd immunity, given the research base in immunology. I believe that data exists.mrussel1 said:
the herd immunity argument was what Pete's campaign tried to nuance out, but how do you manage that? How do you decide that the herd level is too low and that now it's mandatory?oftenreading said:
Do you think “keeping out of the public sphere” will go over bettermrussel1 said:
There's a delicate balance of liberty in this country. I agree with what you're saying, but forced vaccinations won't come off well. Keep them out of the public sphere then, or let them relocate to an isolated area.oftenreading said:mrussel1 said:I'm glad Pete clarified, but it was as silly gaffe to start. I can't believe in 2020 we are arguing about vaccines. It's outrageous and akin to discussions of witchcraft 300 years ago. If you don't want to vaccinate your kid, fine, but no public schools.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/441537-buttigieg-campaign-says-he-supports-some-vaccine-exemptions
I don't agree with the "if you don't want to vaccinate your kids, fine....." statement. Even if kids don't go to public school, they still go out and about in the community. Vaccinate everyone unless there is a valid medical reason not to. All of the major faith leaders have confirmed that vaccination is consistent with the tenets of their faith, so there really shouldn't be any religious exemptions, and "'personal choice" just doesn't cut it.? Because short of incarceration, you can’t keep people out of the pubic sphere.
Herd immunity doesn’t require 100% vaccination, but it does require more than what’s being seen now, with all those religious and personal exemptions.
We don't need to incarcerate them. We can create camps, somewhere on the west coast, with some fences. Think of it as a simple internment. Nothing wrong with that.
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Ah, got you.mrussel1 said:
What Pete floated was that there could be a religious exemption unless the herd immunity levels got too low, then it becomes mandatory. I'm saying that's impractical. First there will be court challenges as whether the immunity levels are too low and then who become mandatory and for how long (also prime for legal battle).oftenreading said:
Pardon? Now I’m confused.mrussel1 said:
I mean more about the triggering of the law that says "now everyone has to go".oftenreading said:
Elitist.my2hands said:
It does, i was listening to an expert on NPR about this the other dayoftenreading said:
Likely not actually that difficult to determine level needed for herd immunity, given the research base in immunology. I believe that data exists.mrussel1 said:
the herd immunity argument was what Pete's campaign tried to nuance out, but how do you manage that? How do you decide that the herd level is too low and that now it's mandatory?oftenreading said:
Do you think “keeping out of the public sphere” will go over bettermrussel1 said:
There's a delicate balance of liberty in this country. I agree with what you're saying, but forced vaccinations won't come off well. Keep them out of the public sphere then, or let them relocate to an isolated area.oftenreading said:mrussel1 said:I'm glad Pete clarified, but it was as silly gaffe to start. I can't believe in 2020 we are arguing about vaccines. It's outrageous and akin to discussions of witchcraft 300 years ago. If you don't want to vaccinate your kid, fine, but no public schools.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/441537-buttigieg-campaign-says-he-supports-some-vaccine-exemptions
I don't agree with the "if you don't want to vaccinate your kids, fine....." statement. Even if kids don't go to public school, they still go out and about in the community. Vaccinate everyone unless there is a valid medical reason not to. All of the major faith leaders have confirmed that vaccination is consistent with the tenets of their faith, so there really shouldn't be any religious exemptions, and "'personal choice" just doesn't cut it.? Because short of incarceration, you can’t keep people out of the pubic sphere.
Herd immunity doesn’t require 100% vaccination, but it does require more than what’s being seen now, with all those religious and personal exemptions.
We don't need to incarcerate them. We can create camps, somewhere on the west coast, with some fences. Think of it as a simple internment. Nothing wrong with that.
I agree it it shouldn’t be a floating requirement. Of course, before things got weird it really was only a very small percentage of people refusing vaccination so they could generally be safely ignored as below the threshold to trigger concern about lowered herd immunity. Not any more.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
It's bizarro world.oftenreading said:
Ah, got you.mrussel1 said:
What Pete floated was that there could be a religious exemption unless the herd immunity levels got too low, then it becomes mandatory. I'm saying that's impractical. First there will be court challenges as whether the immunity levels are too low and then who become mandatory and for how long (also prime for legal battle).oftenreading said:
Pardon? Now I’m confused.mrussel1 said:
I mean more about the triggering of the law that says "now everyone has to go".oftenreading said:
Elitist.my2hands said:
It does, i was listening to an expert on NPR about this the other dayoftenreading said:
Likely not actually that difficult to determine level needed for herd immunity, given the research base in immunology. I believe that data exists.mrussel1 said:
the herd immunity argument was what Pete's campaign tried to nuance out, but how do you manage that? How do you decide that the herd level is too low and that now it's mandatory?oftenreading said:
Do you think “keeping out of the public sphere” will go over bettermrussel1 said:
There's a delicate balance of liberty in this country. I agree with what you're saying, but forced vaccinations won't come off well. Keep them out of the public sphere then, or let them relocate to an isolated area.oftenreading said:mrussel1 said:I'm glad Pete clarified, but it was as silly gaffe to start. I can't believe in 2020 we are arguing about vaccines. It's outrageous and akin to discussions of witchcraft 300 years ago. If you don't want to vaccinate your kid, fine, but no public schools.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/441537-buttigieg-campaign-says-he-supports-some-vaccine-exemptions
I don't agree with the "if you don't want to vaccinate your kids, fine....." statement. Even if kids don't go to public school, they still go out and about in the community. Vaccinate everyone unless there is a valid medical reason not to. All of the major faith leaders have confirmed that vaccination is consistent with the tenets of their faith, so there really shouldn't be any religious exemptions, and "'personal choice" just doesn't cut it.? Because short of incarceration, you can’t keep people out of the pubic sphere.
Herd immunity doesn’t require 100% vaccination, but it does require more than what’s being seen now, with all those religious and personal exemptions.
We don't need to incarcerate them. We can create camps, somewhere on the west coast, with some fences. Think of it as a simple internment. Nothing wrong with that.
I agree it it shouldn’t be a floating requirement. Of course, before things got weird it really was only a very small percentage of people refusing vaccination so they could generally be safely ignored as below the threshold to trigger concern about lowered herd immunity. Not any more.0 -
With social media (particularly FB) people who were isolated for being 'odd' are now finding lots of like minded souls. It's reinforcing their behavior and accentuating their worst instincts. Another reason to kill the internet.0
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My psychotic ex said he didn't want our son to get vaccinated. I told him he was an idiot and refused to have a conversation about his conspiratorial bs.
He had no say over the medical decisions with our son. He was a lackluster parent and I just did what had to be done without discussing it with him. God, what a mistake he was.
Anyway, my son turned out to have an auto immune disease, so I don't care about religious beliefs or thinking it causes autism or whatever else is your problem. If you choose not to vaccinate your child, it should be considered child neglect and endangering the welfare of a child (as in my child who has a compromised immune system). Take the kid away and give them to parents with brains and aren't a danger to the community. Child services takes away children for BS reasons all the time. This is serious - a disease that was eradicated has now re emerged. This is an emergency.
If you are too stupid to know how to protect a child, don't have one. Get a plant.0 -
Kill the internet?0
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there'd be a whole lot of married men with pent up frustration with no avenue to release it, I'll tells ya that.my2hands said:Kill the internet?Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
people released it before the internet....
The love he receives is the love that is saved0 -
I'm trying to bring back the small businesses in this country. Do you realize how many small sex shops and corner VHS stores went out of business because of the internets? It's a travesty.HughFreakingDillon said:
there'd be a whole lot of married men with pent up frustration with no avenue to release it, I'll tells ya that.my2hands said:Kill the internet?0 -
I cannot stand conspiracy theorists. People are friggin' insane.njnancy said:My psychotic ex said he didn't want our son to get vaccinated. I told him he was an idiot and refused to have a conversation about his conspiratorial bs.
He had no say over the medical decisions with our son. He was a lackluster parent and I just did what had to be done without discussing it with him. God, what a mistake he was.
Anyway, my son turned out to have an auto immune disease, so I don't care about religious beliefs or thinking it causes autism or whatever else is your problem. If you choose not to vaccinate your child, it should be considered child neglect and endangering the welfare of a child (as in my child who has a compromised immune system). Take the kid away and give them to parents with brains and aren't a danger to the community. Child services takes away children for BS reasons all the time. This is serious - a disease that was eradicated has now re emerged. This is an emergency.
If you are too stupid to know how to protect a child, don't have one. Get a plant.0 -
Oh man, The Pink Pussycat Boutique on West 4th Street in the Village (NYC). A visit there is a right of passage! I wonder if it is still there?mrussel1 said:
I'm trying to bring back the small businesses in this country. Do you realize how many small sex shops and corner VHS stores went out of business because of the internets? It's a travesty.HughFreakingDillon said:
there'd be a whole lot of married men with pent up frustration with no avenue to release it, I'll tells ya that.my2hands said:Kill the internet?0
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