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    Go Beavers said:
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    Swing voters decide every election. So the political question to impeachment is whether dems will pick up swing voters as a result of it. And right now it’s probably too early to tell. 
    yes, they do. I'd like to know if there's been any studies on how much political news the typical swing voter ingests in a fed election cycle. more than your partisan, or less?
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
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    not negative. just realistic. I'm not against impeachment, I'm for it. I just think that doing it for "putting the repubs on record" is kind of a weak reason. mainly because I don't think it will matter to the electorate. All anyone will remember is if he gets impeached or not, not how people voted. people forgive voting down party lines. it's what's normal now. 

    I think you have to impeach because it's the right thing to do, not out of some revenge tactic. But either way, seems we agree. 
    It’s not about a “revenge tactic,” or sour grapes about losing an election. It’s about the rule of law and holding Team Trump Treason accountable to it as a co equal branch of government. Seems the Team Trump Treason Administration’s tactics of refusing subpoenas is convincing more dems to impeach. Growing a spine can take time.
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    Go Beavers said:
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    Swing voters decide every election. So the political question to impeachment is whether dems will pick up swing voters as a result of it. And right now it’s probably too early to tell. 
    Really non-voters decide every election. The real test is seeing if all those Dems/liberals actually get their apathetic asses to the polling stations to make sure Trump doesn't win again.
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    edited April 2019
    Mueller Told A.G. Barr That His Remarks Failed To Capture 'Context, Nature and Substance Of Probe' in a letter sent to Barr in March, according to WaPo


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mueller-complained-that-barrs-letter-did-not-capture-context-of-trump-probe/2019/04/30/d3c8fdb6-6b7b-11e9-a66d-a82d3f3d96d5_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.90e66999a965

    Not sure which post to put this in so I'm putting in the 3 appropriate ones. 

    Can't wait to see Mueller and Barr testify. 

    EDIT TO ADD: NYT has an article that details Mueller's extreme displeasure with the tactics Barr was taking. He wanted his letter to Barr included in the release. 

    Committee wants Mueller next week.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/30/us/politics/mueller-barr.html

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     I'm listening to "The Mueller Report" on Scribd. Check it out: https://www.scribd.com/audiobook/402026493

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    Barr is a complete complicit asshole that should be arrested today ! 
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    mickeyrat said:
     I'm listening to "The Mueller Report" on Scribd. Check it out: https://www.scribd.com/audiobook/402026493

    Is it Hillary doing the reading?
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    Is it Hillary doing the reading?
    :rofl: That was good. 

    10AM - Barr testifies Senate Committee. Supposed to testify for House Committee this week. And Mueller has been moved up to next week.
    Mueller just couldn't hold back anymore & we now know how pissed he is at Barr's characterization about his report. And he continued to lie after a letter & phone call from Mueller. 

    He lied to the Senate Committee when he testified about his report on the Mueller probe. Crist and Van Hollen - straight up lied. I wonder if there will be any reading of the report to Barr this week? I'd like for him to be read his rights, TBH.
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    Is it Hillary doing the reading?
    no. c'mon. opens with 2 wapo reporters(funded by wapo) and wapo secured 12 readers months in advance, ready to go when it was released. 36 chapters(am into ch 15, still in vol I). very well done so far. readers make it compelling to listen to. Its written in an easily understandable language. I assumed it would be a very dry document. Holy fuckballs, it aint dry.
    report released on the 18th. audiobook released on the 20th. 19 hrs long......

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    njnancy said:
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    :rofl: That was good. 

    10AM - Barr testifies Senate Committee. Supposed to testify for House Committee this week. And Mueller has been moved up to next week.
    Mueller just couldn't hold back anymore & we now know how pissed he is at Barr's characterization about his report. And he continued to lie after a letter & phone call from Mueller. 

    He lied to the Senate Committee when he testified about his report on the Mueller probe. Crist and Van Hollen - straight up lied. I wonder if there will be any reading of the report to Barr this week? I'd like for him to be read his rights, TBH.
     

    lyndsey, introducing the hearing. bringing strock and page into it and commenting  on clinton investigation into the server.
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    mickeyrat said:
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    lyndsey, introducing the hearing. bringing strock and page into it and commenting  on clinton investigation into the server.
    I wasn't aware that they were in the Report. 

    At least Barr is under oath. I want to hear why he lied. I am sure he is prepared to filibuster. He is already speaking in tongues. Gonna be one of those annoying hearings. Lyndsey is a lawyer, he should be ashamed of himself. McCain would smack him upside the head.
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    njnancy said:
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    I wasn't aware that they were in the Report. 

    At least Barr is under oath. I want to hear why he lied. I am sure he is prepared to filibuster. He is already speaking in tongues. Gonna be one of those annoying hearings. Lyndsey is a lawyer, he should be ashamed of himself. McCain would smack him upside the head.
    they arent. girlie man is using his time to puff her chest out.
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    Lyndsey is covering for CYA Barr. The repub fix is in. Wait until CYA Barr refuses to testify beofre the house.
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    mickeyrat said:
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    they arent. girlie man is using his time to puff her chest out.
    I was being facetious. :wink:

    Now would be a great time to roll that tape of Lyndsey saying there doesn't need to be an underlying crime to charge obstruction. 
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    They ought to remove the "Hon" before CYA Barr's name on his name plate. Dianne is gettign after it and Barr couldn't answer a yes/no question as it relates to obstruction.
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    He's starting to stutter quite a bit. 

    Patrick Leahy, I love him and he has my grandpa's name, go get 'em. Make him stutter, or better yet, lie under oath. :prayer:
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Lyndsey is covering for CYA Barr. The repub fix is in. Wait until CYA Barr refuses to testify beofre the house.
    Then what? More bluster and tough talk amounting to a hill of beans? 
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    PJ_Soul said:
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    Really non-voters decide every election. The real test is seeing if all those Dems/liberals actually get their apathetic asses to the polling stations to make sure Trump doesn't win again.
    Also true. If we had 90%+ turnout there would be few republicans in office anywhere. 

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    edited May 2019
    HughFreakingDillon said:
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    yes, they do. I'd like to know if there's been any studies on how much political news the typical swing voter ingests in a fed election cycle. more than your partisan, or less?
    Good question. It comes across as though they’ll respond to widespread stories, but only the superficial aspects. You see this in the week or two up to elections with October surprises. Willie Horton, swift boating, Comey letter, etc. It seems like if the candidate can resolve the swing voter uncertainty with a feeling of confidence, that helps. I this happened for Obama in 08 as the economy tanked in October. He picked up points on McCain because, I think, he projected confidence in being able to handle the sh*tshow. McCain came across as a bit lost. 

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    edited May 2019
    The Team Trump Treason supporter stench drove them to do it. In a southern VA Wal-Mart no less. 
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